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Hello, sorry if I took your time, but could you perhaps give your input in this thread, please?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/puella-magi-verse-high-1-b-upgrade.162861/
Those magical girls have some very special circumstances that allows them to do that though, some of them do even have humongous Karmic Value like Madoka and Tart, or straight up being an irregular like Kosane.
Mayu, as far as I remember, is just a regular magical girl you can finds anywhere...
You kinda needs to prove it that those starry sky are real and not just some painted decorations. Read here for more details:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Creation_Feats
Nothing in the lore description says she created a starry pocket dimension with her Magia attack. Even if it did, it would be massive outlier. You mentioned FGO, but even they didn't have this luxury. Most of their Reality marble are simply a pocket dimension with a very few exceptions due to...
You could still help by listing some of the more relevant feats here. It would save us a lot of times to have another user knowledgeable enough about Magia Record.
Speaking of Magia Record, do you happen to know if someone has already Translated Devil Homura personal story? There might be some...
Magia Record will have their own scaling. It's just not the time right now to talk about them since me and Strym are focusing on the main series first.
That doesn't seem a big of a jump. Shouldn't that be enough? There is also a crossover character from Monogatari series who has SoL speed as well. But I don't know how we treats crossover character in scaling.
The closest I could thinks of is the Tsukuyo Amane attack speed which currently rated Relativistic and the main cast of Magia Record, (and by extension the holy quintet since Kyoko also present during the fight) could keep up with it.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Amane_Sisters
1) Madoka having all the Hax of magical girls is because she absorbed them into her when she made her wishes. And UKG is having the same mostly because she is the Witch counterpart of Ultimate Madoka.
2) Sure.
Don't we at least already have a rough idea about how the scaling goes? At least for Main series and Tart Magica anyway. Aside from AP, we also needs to figures out about the speed and durability scaling.
Hello, forgive me for taking your time, but I wonder if you could give your input in this CRT. It involves high tiering about hierarchy and stuffs.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/puella-magi-verse-high-1-b-upgrade.162861/page-12#post-6292301
Forgive me, but wouldn't this be the similar case like Nasuverse 3D Earth contained 6th Dimension realm? Why would a tetrahedron containing infinite layers of hierarchy be an issue, especially one that both stated and shown that each layers trivialize the previous ones?
Don't we have already enough votes to proceed with the upgrade? Like, they can try to downgrade it later, but there seems to be no point of stalling the thread even further.
Magia Record universe is kinda different though. It was born as the result of side effects of Homura time Travelling, it was the only timeline where Iroha become a magical girl.
My apologize for being able to reply just now. New years has always been a very busy period for me. I just finished reading Null Magica Girl, quite compelling storytelling might I say, it tells the series from an entirely different perspectives altogether.
Putting my thoughts about the novel...
Doesn't that just means Madoka is on greater scale of 5D though? But sure, let's put the later potency aside.
Tart Magica casts should be at the very least scales above Sayaka. Sayaka inexperiency should be the key indicator here of her lower scaling. And if the wraith Arc speed is legit, then...
Partially in what state?
Also, if we're talking about the mindhax feat, it goes like this:
For a context, there are being called the "Law of Cycle assistants", which the name suggests are the helper of the Law of Cycle. They made of every single magical girl that Madoka absorbed into her, the...
Rough google translation only says it doesn't conflict with the main story. I dunno what to makes of this. The context of the conversation also lost since the account who ask this has been suspended.
We do have the whole Karmic Destiny value though. It is what determined how powerful someone is in this verse. Pretty sure we already used this to upscale every God Tier power to their dimensionality level.
I mean, it's more of a redundancy. But I see no harm in adding it, so be my guest.
What about Homura's mindhax potency? She can mindhaxed Madoka in her lower dimensional form (Homulily), her mindhax in her Devil Homura form should be qualitatively superior than her Homulily mindhax.
I mean, it would be a pretty useless NEP, her being Acausal type 5 should have already cover this anyway.
Since we're on the topic of God Tier character, Madoka's avatar is stated to hold an entire 4D space-time under her skirt. If my understanding is correct, should this be qualify as Low 1-C...
Let's line up the scaling first. Note: I won't include Madoka because of her current profile is only consists of her Magia Record version.
Elly (the basis of the scaling) < Sayaka (One shots Elly) < Kyoko (easily manhandled Sayaka, somewhat matched Mami in in a Spin-off manga, but still overall...
Sorry for the delay, been busy with works this past week.
So about the scaling basis, I think we should use H.N Elly as the basis. She is weak enough that an inexperience magical girl like Sayaka was able to easily beats her.
I would say yes. Aside from the few instances I mentioned above, there are also several scenes where they main cast struggles against hordes of fodder witches. Although this bears another problem for us that if we really gonna get rid of using the in-verse scaling, most of Tart Magica characters...
Update: I finished rereading Tart Magica and I will listed some scaling relevant feats that I found.
Corbeau and Riz were pretty much equal in term of strength in their first confrontation. Riz was the better fighter but Corbeau abilities was even things out for her.
Fleche has AP rating 5 but...
Magia Record should have its own scaling chains.
I believe somebodydata has many unused Magia Record feats calc in his blogs, some of them involving Witches Labyrinth. Maybe you can check on them and maybe recalcs them using the current standard if they're no longer valid.
Also, we need to get...