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  1. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    So apparently the 616 may have Low 1-C and accepted as such. The best solution is create a rule for characters not to scale the entirety of the 616 just because they are said to be capable of destroying the universe, each case has to be analyzed by case, and with much context and with great...
  2. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Yes, I understand that argument of yours. But I still would argue that it is a world idea that has gone outside the planck size, because even in the comic that it is interpreted that the microverse is inside the universe is just by the fact that they have to go sub-atomic, and that makes them...
  3. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    That may be true for other verses, but not in this regard. J.M. spent hours of research in the bowels of the Marvel archives to make sure all the puzzle pieces fit just right. - Silver Surfer Vol 3 #138: February 25, 1998 If we are going to disqualify inconsistency it is by comparing them...
  4. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Qualitative superiority, and endless universe contained within an atom, is that by definition. Tho, however, the issue was so derailed that I feel I can't even comment properly on the microverse and macroverse, because it didn't let conclude on the Multiverse part.
  5. Alonik

    Minecraft - Player Upgrade (5D - Low 1-C)

    already debunked in the thread that i got removed, because the dream is me playing minecraft and creating the world of my dreams.
  6. Alonik

    Nyx (Marvel Comics) Upgrade back to 1-A

    Stop being a liar, you are the only one who is using this awful argument of High 1-B for heralds, nobody ever tried to upgrade the heralds, you got tired of talking about the current marvel LGBT agenda with that old copypast of yours and now you are creating strawman as your form of robotic...
  7. Alonik

    Minecraft - Player Upgrade (5D - Low 1-C)

    Wow here we go again with me, the Player, being Low 1-C again :sleep:
  8. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Antvasima if your concern is that Blastaar and Annihilus would scale to High 1-B and then all the heroes would be scaled, don't fret about it, because Annihilus himself exists far from the zones of distortions of the Negative Zone, because it destroys anti-matter. So much so that there is a scan...
  9. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    It doesn't matter if it's the universe or the multiverse, the point is that no such hero or villain will scale, we just want a High 1-B Multiverse based on the evidence we brought. If you want to interpret the Zone as something that connects the entire multiverse, or that it's just inside the...
  10. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Let's pretend you haven't asked me this in over a year, and that i didn't split the cosmology and your best argument was that you are incapable of reading comics and giving a coherent assessment other than using those admin rights of yours to deny proposals with your downplayer point of view.
  11. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Indeed the negative zone being only 3-dimensional is just a ''artificially piece together almost any type of scaling that one wishes from it by ignoring all contradictions and focusing on anything that can support the intended end result alone'', as you're doing.
  12. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Two posts proving this, there is no burden of proof: https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-cosmology-downgrade.146443/page-6#post-5412718 https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-cosmology-downgrade.146443/page-6#post-5414266 If you don't want to make a proper revision for Marvel because you don't...
  13. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    This is fine, it can be done.
  14. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    But that database thing doesn't mean anything, they are not scans. Now about the Civil War comic, I won't go into detail, but let's just say it's only 3D, that doesn't bring a broad consistency (Although is explained within the comic itself that they only took to specific zones already mapped...
  15. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    A single scan that was covered, and as you say, a single high tier scan is not enough to prove a consistency of events, the same ought to be for lower statistics. Nobody is talking about High 1-B heroes. We are talking about a structure, again going around creating false statistics of how this...
  16. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Scans with being 3-D sized, please. Let's not take one word as a rule, let's analyze consistency of scans, if you can collaborate by collecting them to show everyone that would be great. Writing what you think will not change some of the High 1-B cosmologies already shown to be 3-D sized. As...
  17. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    You only have one valid argument with evidence there, and the rest are just walls off text and don't compile more than one scan beyond the one everyone knows to show that Marvel consistently portrays the Zone as 3D, while @Ultima_Reality argued with several different comics that subspace and...
  18. Alonik

    Nyx (Marvel Comics) Upgrade back to 1-A

    I agree, though I think there are more solid things to be added to this, it's something that maybe will be presented in the other marvel thread.
  19. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    As a matter of fact, the Marvel Book explicit claims that the Fulcrum and One Above All are two names dubbed by the supreme deity of the Marvel Universe.
  20. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    I don't know, but this post will still have more compiled answers and cosmologies, i guess. Then we can take a look at not only Divine Creator as a key to TOAA, but also Fulcrum, which is officially dubbed for The One Above All.
  21. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    At the same time that he is all gods. Even in Ewing's cosmology where The One Above All is this writer/editor/reader, Ewing just made a retrieval from Mark Waid's Fantastic Four chapter where Jack Kirby appears as the Christian God to Reed Richards, and that TOAA's heaven is of any kind of...
  22. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Divine Creator is The One Above All, as stated by Dematteis.
  23. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Can u please make a list of the ''several times abstracts reside in 1-B planes'' please?
  24. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Read Ultima's argument, this is just support evidence. He literally send the fantastic four being dimensionaly readjusted in the distortion area, and having your vision being adjusted for higher infinities go into this interpretation, asides from the fact that he already sent a scan of...
  25. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Since someone with knowledge decided to show an in-depth analysis in this thread, I will do the same, but first of all I agree with @Ultima_Reality and the infinite-dimensional tiering for the Multiverse, and this here is just more evidence that shows that this is recurring even with other...
  26. Alonik

    Dragon Ball (Toei) GT upgrade (Redone)

    MTL, mostly. It's not stated ''every galaxy'' or ''entire galaxies'', is just stated the entire galaxy 銀河全体 means ''the entire galaxy'' 全体 is worded for: ''whole; entirety''
  27. Alonik

    Marvel Comics: Scarlet Witch (HOM) Downgrade

    No, all she did was say No More Mutants, and thus with that reality shifted, and cracks formed across all the realities, which was a trans-temporal tsunami created by wanda that was tearing every dimension, hence the pan-dimensional chaos wave.
  28. Alonik

    Marvel Comics: Scarlet Witch (HOM) Downgrade

    I agree, what Phoenix did was just save one of her hosts, but not that she was affected by the chaos wave during the event. To be blunt, in Uncanny X-Men Vol 1 #468 is said outright that The phoenix is a transcendent and unending threat to the whole of creation, and is the...
  29. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    This is just what the author tried to explain in the beginning, but then he explicitly talks about several math theories, and then e got into Cantor's theory of transfinite aleph numbers.
  30. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    I must agree with @Deagonx. Reiner and Gasper are just nitpicking at the author not knowing bijection, when the Author explicitly phrase more than once that there are greater infinites, says about transfinites, and says that there is an infinite series of aleph numbers.
  31. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Georg Cantor, a russian monk at the turn of this century, was the first to study what he called ''transfinite'' numbers, starting with aleph-- an infinite series of infinite numbers, all greater than each other. He is obviously talking about alephs beyond 0, up to infinity (aleph omega), the...
  32. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Not that we are using the model as the proof, but rather to counter the silly argument that higher dimensional parallel universes cannot exist. Since we literally see stacked universes one being infinitely higher than the previous, and seeing another as infinitely smaller, this is literally...
  33. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Type III multiverse where your alternate self lives in a higher dimensional plane from any dimensional number. Calling it alt realities ou because they're universe in it, doesn't invalidate de evidence for the dimensions being transfinite.
  34. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Quite good, indeed that Planetary (wildstorm universe) scan from DC Comics seems pretty much a great through analysis. Agreed.
  35. Alonik

    Marvel Cosmology Downgrade

    Reliable, i was there. 💀
  36. Alonik

    Infinite Speed Saint seiya Upgrade

    I neither disagree nor agree. I was just expressing how I don't care with the collaborations on anything related to Saint Seiya here with this composite profile soup.
  37. Alonik

    The DC Comics Cosmology Revision Project - Part 2

    About the nature of the 28 dimensions, they are only dimensions within the godsphere, the Source Wall that was beyond the Fourth World only had 6th dimensional structures only, which means they're below 6D. Your three-dimensional mind cannot being to encompass the six-dimensional space through...
  38. Alonik

    Infinite Speed Saint seiya Upgrade

    I am sorry, but I am against most of the upgrades in Saint Seiya, the "suppoters" of Saint Seiya have barely read the manga and even need Sockpuppet to maintain these wanks. What I can say is that Saint Seiya has to be split just like Marvel and DC by author, since the profiles are horrible and...
  39. Alonik

    Ben 10 - Low 1-C Time Stream Proposal

    And that remains in the definition of micro and macro.
  40. Alonik

    Ben 10 - Low 1-C Time Stream Proposal

    No, microcosm means that something is infinitely small compared with the all encompassing thing they are relatively small to.
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