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  1. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    If you don't see it, fine, but in other views I have proven it anyway.
  2. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    I didn't ignore it. But why are you not suggesting that even Earth 1 is Low 1-C? The fifth dimension even exists on it, we even have scans of it. I have already raised point here that addresses all of this and was ignored: A pandimensional framework existing on all planes of existence because...
  3. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    Can anyone tell me how the fifth dimension being Low 1-C or not will affect anything here? I believe that is already accepted. I can even elaborate with scans that are not even available in the cosmologies page if you need them. However, the main point is: The orrery being connected with fixed...
  4. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    Bleed's point in its true form is an answer to these points. You have to understand that Bleedspace is a bufferzone between realities, so it will never actually be part of any specific zone within those structures, but rather exist as the framework for all of them. The reason you shouldn't...
  5. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    Not necessarily. The 4D vision is literally said to be made of Cosmic Armor. And "being more conceptual" does not mean =/= less dimensional. Space and time in the monitor sphere more profound, aside from the fact that the bleedspace that Zillo Valla traveled was already the overvoid.
  6. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    I hadn't seen that, but interesting that you posted the physical comic, I think we should explain that better. We should put that in Final Crisis it is only 4D, and in Multiversity Morrison retconned to 5D. If you will notice, in the physical scan where it talks about the vision of the Overvoid...
  7. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    I continue with my point about this, mainly because it is supported the idea even in Morrison's storyline, there is even no storyline that does not pass this idea, bleed as the ultimate power that drives or can destroy creation has a huge consistency in almost, if not every storyline that ever...
  8. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    I don't know why y'all reated a mindset limited only to Morrison's vision, he is not the creator of the bleedspace, much less just because he didn't speak well we shouldn't ignore the whole development of the Bleed in comics before and post-final crisis. However, obviously this is not even the...
  9. Alonik

    Saint Seiya 8th Sense 5D HDE Removal

    derailment would be if I were talking about something that has nothing to do with the underworld, which is the plane to which the dead ascend in this thread.
  10. Alonik

    Saint Seiya 8th Sense 5D HDE Removal

    It could be true, if it had evidence to prove that the cancer constellation transcends a Tier 2 construct since it is the entrance of underworld, lol
  11. Alonik

    Saint Seiya 8th Sense 5D HDE Removal

    It is meant to be, because this breaks the idea of 5D even further. But since you can't see strinkings points of the lore I will answer Hasty one last time and stop following the thread.
  12. Alonik

    Saint Seiya 8th Sense 5D HDE Removal

    There is no mention of this, just a lack of understanding from Okada's Twitter was talking about. Requiem literally kept proving this. Shura literally killed the Gods of other universes as well as killing the divine sword deities from other universes. From the moment Shun turned Hades and...
  13. Alonik

    Saint Seiya 8th Sense 5D HDE Removal

    Shun of "universe 2" is literally Hades from that universe and all the bronze saints from that universe were killed in the underworld from that timeline. While in the main universe in episode G.A Hades is dead and the Sanctuary rules the Underworld with a treaty with Radamanthys that controls...
  14. Alonik

    Saint Seiya 8th Sense 5D HDE Removal

    Agreed. I would also like to add that it is not said in the original translation that awakened users sees the multiverse with the Eighth Sense, but rather multiple dimensions. Moreover, it has no implication of a qualitative difference in Tier 2 even if we take the "multiverse" part as a real...
  15. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    I had forgotten to unfollow this, so another comment: I disagree with the Sphere of the Gods Low 1-C scaling with the Bleed, reasong: The Bleed and the 5th dimension exist together in Morrison's cosmology, both is the blood and imagination of the map. And morrison's 5D is Low 1-C as accepted...
  16. Alonik

    DC Comics: Follow-ups - Bleedspace

    Commenting here because you asked me to. I agree that Bleed is Low 1-C, but I disagree that we should scale the bleed between universes to Low 1-C. I see a problem when peeps interpret the DC map is that they ignore the colors in the multiversal vibrations section. As we see below, DC's...
  17. Alonik

    Incorrect.

    Incorrect.
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  18. Alonik

    Yes

    Yes
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  19. Alonik

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)

    I wonder how superheroes will scale to the first firmament because abstract beings have been upgraded but are still below the first firmament. The truth is that regardless of whether this upgrade passes or not, no one you mention as a superhero is going to scale to the First Firmament or...
  20. Alonik

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)

    Read the Op, and all the comments.
  21. Alonik

    Yes, Aiolia continued to be trained by Galan. And if we consider the black-haired Aiolia from...

    Yes, Aiolia continued to be trained by Galan. And if we consider the black-haired Aiolia from Episode G.A. to be the same one he continued training even more (but it is perigorous because the chronology of the universe 2 is a bit weird since Shura didn't have the dunamis he received during the G...
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  22. Alonik

    Yes, it saved a lot of time. It's really FTL. The problem is that this scan tries to equate that...

    Yes, it saved a lot of time. It's really FTL. The problem is that this scan tries to equate that when a gold saint focus their fist they surpasses light, maybe it's the contradictions for the sake of the script, and we should consider that just for Aiolia, I guess. About Miracles, I think...
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  23. Alonik

    Wait... there is a translation error in both versions of Arges' speech. In the Portuguese...

    Wait... there is a translation error in both versions of Arges' speech. In the Portuguese version it says that she used Chronos' power, in the English version it says that she didn't even have Chronos' power. I'll download the raw one here and have a look (I'm already downloading Aiolia's raw...
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  24. Alonik

    Oh, ok. Even without the Keraunos thing, Pontos in chapter 47 claims that FTL is the speed of...

    Oh, ok. Even without the Keraunos thing, Pontos in chapter 47 claims that FTL is the speed of the Gods, and recently Shura had to activate the ninth sense to overcome the speed of light. It is easy to make a list of all the moments that the Gold Saint talk about light speed, or near light...
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  25. Alonik

    (Complete Saint Seiya verse Overhaul Part 1) - Perhaps one of the top 10 most ambitious overhauls to a verse in vswiki history?

    But Zeus dunamis is his ability to wield lightning, that the Keraunos of Ceos (his actual full dunamis): Lamento por aquele que pretendia roubar a minha dunamis... Mas é você... Quem deve ficar com esta força... Que todo o poder de Keuranos em mim existente... Viva agora com o Leão de Ouro... E...
  26. Alonik

    (Complete Saint Seiya verse Overhaul Part 1) - Perhaps one of the top 10 most ambitious overhauls to a verse in vswiki history?

    Yes, he always had part of the Keraunos :unsure: But if I'm not mistaken it's a translation error this from chapter 4, but not that it would prevent him from achieving this before. Since he always had the Keraunos.
  27. Alonik

    (Complete Saint Seiya verse Overhaul Part 1) - Perhaps one of the top 10 most ambitious overhauls to a verse in vswiki history?

    Yeah, with Dunamis, ergo 9th sense.
  28. Alonik

    (Complete Saint Seiya verse Overhaul Part 1) - Perhaps one of the top 10 most ambitious overhauls to a verse in vswiki history?

    Has it been pointed out that it needs the 9th Sense to be at least FTL according to Episode G and Episode G Requiem?
  29. Alonik

    (Complete Saint Seiya verse Overhaul Part 1) - Perhaps one of the top 10 most ambitious overhauls to a verse in vswiki history?

    Yet Zeus was killed and blitzed by a Aiolos with the 8th sense :unsure:
  30. Alonik

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)

    Actually this is talking about the qualitative difference between dimensions of hyperspace, not about transfinite numbers.
  31. Alonik

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)

    I think this one is better for the Omniversal abstract thread, since most of the stuff you showed will be there
  32. Alonik

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)

    Also, i agree with everything. I am also now in perfect agreement with the part about the Dimension of the Manifestations, about the scale of the abstracts and the tier as well. We were in needs to change the way Abstracts are interpreted, because it doesn't affect them in tier, but rather in...
  33. Alonik

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)

    Is more like "Current marvel cosmology has so many concepts and so many connections beucase is huge, and therefore needs a whole new thread"
  34. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    It's not even said that exactly in the story, it's like any of you presenting our tiering system in some college and they say it's very hyperbolic and very flowery, because it has a very exaggerated fictional tone like entities that can be very big and destroy various things, just because the...
  35. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    About Hickman's nothing needs to be done, because you always bring this up in any Marvel thread and it is always debunked, as can be seen in Owen Reece's profile updated by Confluctor, there are justifications there that debunk this. Franklin richards traveling through a finite number of...
  36. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    Sure... If say sou. Thanks for the stonewalling. Anyway, I'll wait for those who are more versed with Marvel to comment.
  37. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    I literally sent above scans about subspace, I don't have to show you something against your denialism, this is a staff thread based on a general consensus, not whether you accept it or not, just like you are denying obvious quotes from higher dimensions not just from me btw.
  38. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    Yes, i can. I've already done that, i don't need to pick up things without context. However it would be great for you to make a list about that, let us see that awesome work.
  39. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    Not sure where he dismessed this, since in the previous thread I had already given support about the space-time continuum that subspace connects are infinite higher dimensions. Quoting what I had argued before because this is a staff thread and should be voted: And before anything else, yes...
  40. Alonik

    Marvel Negative Zone

    This part illusion was already debunk in the last thread, the case of Phygoras was brought out of context. About the Dark Dimension not being inside 616 here, fine. Tho, the proposal of the rule for scalling should still stand.
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