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Yeah, if LG wasn’t at least relevant to full power DG there’s no way he would be able to keep DG contained for the eons he did.
But if you’re proposing LG be downgraded to Low 2-C up to Low 1-C I can get that.
I know there’s a lot of CRTs out there but this one seems relatively simple to talk about: https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-incomplete-god-of-darkness-gets-a-boost-dark-gaia-upgrade.169087/
So, Gaia Colossus is currently rated as Low 1-C via scaling to casual The End. I’m not gonna dispute that, but I will point out that Dark Gaia in every form outside of perfect is merely rated as Low 2-C, which makes him over infinitely weaker than GC.
This is despite the fact that Semi Perfect...
That's fine, it's just that I'm not sure why the mergequakes aren't lower tier uni. The big merge and the merge quake storm both scale to 17x uni, so the ninja getting uni+ or low multi off of this still keeps the series power hierarchy intact, and moreover we know that single quakes only occur...
Tbf I think you only really need to divide the feat in half, each of the ninja can scale to the combo of the golden weapons, or the Megaweapon, which both do half the work.
The size is growing because the universe is getting closer and closer to completing its merge into another universe, and the ninja have to channel heavy amounts of concentration and elemental power just to close a single quake (and thus stop two universes from merging).
It’s not semantics if the mergequakes happen and grow bigger as a direct result of two universes trying to merge together, so making a merge quake smaller and eventually closing it is equivalent to pushing one universe back from its attempted merge.
Plus the Oni are 2-C anyway, Oni Garmadon is...
I feel like Minato should win ig, his teleportation seems much faster to pull off and because of ES he can keep up with Kuma’s brand of teleporting.
I wouldn’t say Minato is more creative since Kuma has done some creative stuff with his fruit, but Minato does at least have options besides...
Not that it matters but:
I think the 6-A possibly Low 4-C approach from the start of the thread is fine because there’s nothing contradicting the ninja scaling to at least half the star feat, and it being an outlier I disagree with because there are many series that have one off feats that are...
I suppose DS could be using the AU’s Aurora Network connection to know about all the Federation space controlled planets, but the corruption would spread across the galaxy and the AUs are only in Federation Space (which doesn’t extend across the galaxy), plus there were leviathans hitting...
Wait, you’re just gonna delete the intangibility?
Even though we know it exists?
I’m gonna keep looking for the Samus interstellar range (apparently it’s in Prime 3), but for now DS should have interstellar range with Dream manipulation, seeing as she gave Samus the Dream in the Prime 3 intro...
Well the Dark Samus intangibility in 3 doesn't match the energy based stuff she had in the Prime 2 final battle, it doesn't interact with physical shots like a gas or a liquid, so it has to be either immaterial or spatial. As has been thoroughly established by now, Dark Samus seemingly cannot...
Yeah but you could argue that those are Ing-specific powers, like the Chozo Ghost intang is a ghost specific power. But DS’s intangibility is at least a level of intangibility that can’t be affected by those who can affect spatial intangibles.
Just wanna say one more thing, this isn’t me trying to incite argument at all, I am definitely not gonna continue trying to push my point. I just wanted to state my own stance.
Spatial intangibility should stay, since DS’s echoes can’t be physically interacted with by Samus and show no sort of...
Idk why you’re arguing about this when we obviously know DS had to be reduced to having no atoms remaining anyway.
Destroying ghosts is destroying souls. Samus can destroy ghosts, ergo she can destroy souls. Phazon is a stronger beam than Samus’s beams and can affect souls, ergo it can destroy...
I agree she warps.
We can make deductive guesses though?
Yeah I can, if you are much stronger than your opponent it’s perfectly possible to say you can blow away every atom of your opponent (in fact Samus did that in the ending seemingly, how else would Dark Samus be killed?)
It’s basic...
Sure
Samus is completely unable to hit Dark Samus’s multilocation clone with her power beam. This same power beam was capable of hitting Chozo ghosts when they were phased out of local time space, and Dark Samus (as a very high tier Phazon user) should be capable of a level of intangibility...
Tl;Dr Dark Samus should keep some form of intangibility (to the extent Samus cannot tag DS despite already defeating and tagging entities that phased out of timespace), should keep low-godly, and should keep leviathan durability scaling. Invulnerability I guess I’m 50/50, rest of the OP changes...
I could not find where she teleports to the pirate base on her own, but I’ll take your word for it.
We never actually get to see how far she can teleport to say she can go 343 light years in one go, so it’s impossible to say her teleporting could get her that far, or that her shadow clones can...
We see more of her physically flying in 3 than we see teleporting (which is none)
The GF also knew where Phaaze was, finding it wasn’t the problem. The problem was they just couldn’t reach it, despite having hyperdrive technology.
That was just one option, the other is simply that it bypassed...
Except when Dark Samus arrived in person on Norion to fight the hunters, it still leaves physically without teleporting. DS is never seen teleporting for pretty much the whole game, and there’s no pirate base on Norion.
Yes, except there’s always an explanation that those self destructs are...
I don’t really see the difference, entities like Gorea have been shown to travel through space without wings before.
The only known leviathan seed off-Phaaze was on the pirate homeworld, and why would Dark Samus’s astral clone body go to a random pirate base? What would it do afterwards?
The...
That seems very semantics-esque, they both fly.
Sometimes. There wasn’t exactly a leviathan for Dark Samus’s multilocation clone to use near Bryyo or Elysia.
The shell has no evidence of getting weaker after the leviathan dies.
I’d argue the impact crater dungeon is the shell, given how it’s...
She’s a stronger, faster being than him in terms of reactions and such, and she can physically fly, not sure why she wouldn’t be able to match his flight pace.
The space pirates didn’t go to Phaaze with their technology, they found a Leviathan and that brought DS to Phaaze according to space...
She would be upscaling Ridley by this point, who can physically fly between solar systems (seeing as he flew from SR388 in Samus Returns to the Ceres Space Colony and then to Zebes, all without visibly seeing a ship on screen). Plus, her warping is only stated to be short range, not the wormhole...