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Because this is akin to what I'm trying to get at here, like how it would take All Might 5 punches in his prime but 300 punches in his weakened state, it took Tao one casual strike to overpower a pre-training Goku, but it took at least 6 full strikes to get a post-training Goku to say that it hurt
Nora Valkyrie for example got slammed into the floor by and amped Hazel (who would have no reason to hold back btw) and did not die and neither did Lie Ren even though he was knocked out off screen, and I believe there is a case that the characters are comparable to if not stronger than Oscar...
Is this match up really valid? Roshi wouldn't be High 8-C at the time: https://vsbattles.com/threads/what-if-tao-killed-goku-tao-pai-pai-vs-master-roshi.122029/
Mind looking at this: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Attempting_to_ape_out_the_percentage_of_land_coverage_on_Dragon_Ball%27s_Earth#articleComments
Are Batman characters actually Class M? Dick Grayson for example was able to hold up an Orca's jaws which translates to him holding up a pressure of 131000388.5708 N/m^2
I though it was confirmed the be a nuclear warhead of some kind:
A clearer image: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:JagiNuclearExplosion2_edit.png
Also to clarify, if we go by Null's version, then that mean we need to downgrade Tao from Hypersonic+ to just Hypersonic and while he would be still High 8-C via scaling, the AP comes out to only 8-C+
Mind looking at these too?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Jagi_distance_away_from_epicenter
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Hokuto_Ryuken_is_more_dangerous_than_drying_up_the_ocean:_Hagane_no_Saiyajin%27s_version
Yes, I understand that, I'm just suggesting that it could be more than twice as strong, it could be possibly at least six times as that's how much it took Tao to hurt Goku
How about I throw my hat into this thread?
Even though we currently interpret "several times over" to mean Goku gains a 2x increase, is it really an only 2x increase?
Goku took at least six strikes (12 if you count the 'budda's as two) from Tao and got up from it saying "That really hurt" and...