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Temperature Manipulation is fine.
Resistance to Age Manipulation seems okay.
Universe level+ Environmental Destruction via technology seems okay.
Should Dagon scale to the potential AP of the Alpha Rune?
Eh, not really, since we don't see the results of the completed transaction. I mean, Dagon would have power absorption but no signifier of AP.
"Power to rule your universe" - Doesn't really tell us anything except being above the local...
Is the current lifting strength proposal affected by the previous lifting thread?
I disagree with Plot Manipulation, as no in-show reference to a meta-narrative exists.
Temperature Manipulation is fine.
Resistance to Age Manipulation seems okay.
So at the moment we have Dwarf Star level rated from x to y joules.
Some of the dwarfs aren't even stars.
Brown dwarfs are the lowest end.
I would prefer to not call the tier Brown Dwarf or etc since there are different kinds of dwarfs and larger than planet Gass giants.
Personally...
So Brown Dwarfs fall "between white dwarf stars and "dark" planets in size." "More mass than the biggest gas giant planets, but less than the least massive main-sequence stars." "Alternative names for these objects were proposed, including planetar and substar."
I suppose it makes sense to move...
So there are different varieties of Dwarf Star.
Does our current tiering accurately show the energy range from the smallest to largest Dwarf stars in general?
Unless punching Chaos and Order changed their concepts, that's just Non Phys Interaction, not Concept manip.
Regarding the others, I don't follow how the concepts were manipulated. Can you elaborate?
@DarkDragonMedeus
Your input is appreciated, as you took part in the original thread. Based on the context below, has your opinion on the Hyper-Timeline Energy Wave having Immeasurable speed changed? If so, why?
@Ultima_Reality Your input is also appreciated.
Objective: We are assigning...
@Mr. Bambu
To preface, let's look at an accepted inverse example: The DBH Chaos Ball. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Ball
Accepted Explanation Page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Immeasurable_Speed_Explanation_(Dragon_Ball_Heroes)
Immeasurable with its power (Upon appearing the...
If you do the inverse context and destroy across many temporal dimensions, is immeasurable speed not applicable? You would destroy Temporal Dimension X, then X+1, and so on?
The energy wave creates each part of the hyper-timeline structure as it goes on. Let's say the energy wave creates Temporal Dimension X. The energy wave would need to move past and across Temporal Dimension X to create Temporal Dimension X+1. The process continues for every other new Temporal...
To clarify, what scenario did you describe to Ultima? Just calling it a big bang is an insufficient description of the context we are dealing with.
See my earlier description of our scenario.
Overall, it's a Hypertimeline structure. The higher-dimensional energy wave simultaneously created and traversed infinite upon infinite standard timelines and hyper-timeline temporal dimension layers (past, present, future, etc.).
Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time...
The current discussion is regarding the speed of the energy wave itself.
I thought we would be talking about scaling later, but am I to take it that you agree with the original feat being immeasurable but disagree with the current scaling justifications?
To reiterate, we're discussing the "speed" of the energy wave that spans and creates the entire higher dimensional hypertimeline structure (past, present, future, etc.).