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Hope Nintendo figures out what to do with the RPG series sooner than later, Odyssey aside Mario's felt kinda sterilized these years, and I think that's the reason
Anyhow, fellas, I think discussion around this has slowed down and there is a fairly clear consensus, so if by tonight (it's morning here) no massive changes happen it should be good to close and apply this.
We aren't led to believe they're above either???? You're just making random claims. And also if you're claiming Samus is equally empowered by her half of the Light of Aether, we know for sure that her attacks are going to be dealing only a fraction of that power each, and are still able to...
Ok, so? We're literally told that's what happened, it's stupid to insist that it didn't. Even if it's a contradiction, who cares? It happened.
It's pretty clear that her bringing it back to the Luminoth is necessary for their survival, otherwise she wouldn't need to bother doing that. Again...
I think you've lost the plot of your argument a bit. They have 8 minutes before the planet collapses, they would 100% be capable of doing that in either situation. The fact that they could and don't doesn't really mean anything either way.
Never said you can enter it, just said you can exit it...
I don't think Mario's the sort of franchise to have overarching lore like that but it'd be cool if at least one sub-series went in a direction like that
They're just FTL in combat speed, not movement speed. In fact the only Ing that can fly can barely do so by floating, and there's no reason to believe they're able to do so without an atmosphere- no IRL creature is capable of flying beyond a certain altitude.
We see them survive unprotected for...
Oh I see, it's not an OHKO thing unless he wants it to be, it's just a really powerful attack Alphonse cannot avoid, whereas Alphonse can allegedly basically never hit him, and Alphonse's main edge is that he's hardy enough to avoid being immediately killed unless Positron decides to immediately...
Eh, maybe? They're definitely faster so sure I suppose, I don't think it's a blitz-worthy thing though (well it is sometimes, i'm just not sure it's consistent)
So according to you he can one-shot the guy at any time, he's stronger, he can avoid basically all of his attacks, Alphonse has no viable means of defense against him and he's (allegedly) more skilled? This is definitely a stomp.
Spiders constantly holding back to a massive degree is a pretty inconsistent notion that gets treated as a lot more reliable than it is- they've been blitzed, surprised or defeated far too often for that to really make sense IMO. Holding back strength, sure, but speed makes no sense. I don't...
I'm not particularly sold that "killed a billion trillion enemies" is such a massive skill edge, at a certain point it's just stamina plus being able to handle whatever handful is thrown at you, and Positron seems to rely on P&A rather than martial skill- whereas Alphonse does have a large edge...
Rather than AP this is just dimensional hax ("Spatial disturbances appeared across the land. Objects went into a state of dimensional flux"), which would be required to create Dark Aether anyways. Besides, this was a unique chain reaction caused by the Phazon interfacing with Aether's unique...
I read through the arguments and unfortunately I'm not convinced by much of what the opposing side says. Apologies for not being there to make arguments, but alas, I was sleepin'
Also I've got to go to sleep but this is just circling back to the same thing, the LoA's Low 4-C or whatever feat is specifically associated with the entirety of the light's output all at once, not some of it existing inside a suit and passively providing power to it. And also this is just not...
What logbook are you referring to?
"Matter-energy conversion should only be used for a calculation if it is clearly stated that this is the progress used."
The Light Suit was forged with the Light of Aether, sure, but that does not at all mean it is being actively empowered by it. There is...
Yes, we know they used the energy in the past, there's other lores that say this. This still has absolutely zero implication that Samus is capable of doing the same, and the fact that they acknowledge that using the energy wastes it proves it even more that Samus is not capable of using the...
Anyhow, here's the first thread. I wanted to add some P&A additions in too so it wasn't just downgrading a feat but then it got very long and I didn't want to make it any longer.
The primary purpose of this thread is to debunk a feat that is currently the basis for the Metroid series' Low 4-C ratings, which is characters scaling to the Light of Aether, an energy that supposedly is equal to the planet Aether's Mass-energy conversion. The way in which the characters scale...
All of those either have a further reason for scaling characters to their ability to create clouds (Giegue and Shigeo use their TK to do it, for example, while Hylia has a UES). I can't vouch for the others, but either they also have that, or they shouldn't scale to it. I know it's not a very...
I don't really know either verse and unfortunately don't have the time to check the whole thing rn, but if you have questions about anything in particular I'm open.
EDIT: I will say I'm not sure I agree with some of the things in the doc
Apologies for snooping around but whenever you guys are done I'd be happy to help with evaluating calculations, I'm always interested in helping revisions/creation of more niche/retro game verses.
I forgot to address this before but like, how is it anything but that? It's done through unknown means, in an unknown timeframe, with no particular reason this should scale to his statistics.
They can sometimes, at other times they're just fully unable to even hurt them, or Power Stars are considered to be massive amps (Mario Party is a good example). It's just not consistent either way.
Btw if we're looking at King Bob-Omb specifically, you never actually beat him in a fight, you...
I have genuinely no clue what you're talking about. Like this isn't a bit I don't even know what I supposedly did wrong. You literally said "yet", which is why I concluded that you do plan to apply them to stats: because you literally said you would.
Every franchise I have scaled? I do. I try...
I think this is canonically just dimensional travel? I'd have to check but can't right now, gimme a bit. Could also just be a pretty background.
You make it pretty clear that you plan to. I don't oppose adding them as ED but I would make it clear that I do not see any way in which they do...