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Astral_Trinity439
Astral_Trinity439
Yes, they are indeed different.

R>F is viewing something as content inside a book or the like. So Space-time manip from a "Real" being, strictly speaking, is qualitatively greater then space-time manip from a being that is "Fiction" with respect to that level of realness.
a character manipulation an existing space-time as if it is imaginary is same as a character manipulating a nonexisting imaginary world because it is simply literally imaginary
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The first is quite literally just subjective reality or plot manipulation being used to manipulate space-time. The second is, however, just space-time manipulation, however, on a qualitatively lower scale..

The first is somewhat a "Smurf". Because its like a 1-A being manipulating low 1-A space-time, such as 1-A person tearing the page of a book and thus destroying the lower space-time represented by that page. Thus, technically, no non-1-A being should be able to resist that kind of space-time manip unless a non 1-A has a 1-A resistance via a 1-A power source.

The other kind is just normal and not smurf, however.

Hope that cleared your doubts. If it didn't, feel free to ask more questions.
InkyBattles
InkyBattles
This helps a lot thank you you are very knowledgeable
Astral_Trinity439
Astral_Trinity439
No prob 👍
InkyBattles
InkyBattles
Last question for right now, I have been hearing many people argue that if a world is fiction that means it is flat (2-dimensional). What are your thoughts about this argument? and would you agree or disagree with it.
Astral_Trinity439
Astral_Trinity439
Didnt get a notification for this, so apoIogies for repIying Iate.
And I disagree, the tiering system revisions were basicaIIy aImost entireIy meant to deaI with this anaIogy. FictionaI structures are, from higher perspective, just nothing at aII, nonexistence, but 2-Ds are just uncountabIy inferior.

For exampIe, you can make a 3-D thing out of uncountabIy infinite 2-Ds, but you cannot make reaIity out of fiction no matter how many times you stack it, an empty set muItipIied to itseIf an inaccessibIe amount of times is stiII an empty set..
InkyBattles
InkyBattles
Hi Astral, I have two questions.

  1. So let say there is an higher dimensional space (via void of nothingness) that acts as a host to many space-time continuums would this count as causality (type: 5)?
  2. Also does being inside of void of nothingness automatically mean space-time doesn't exist (Space as in physical matter type of space that is because I know voids technically are space just empty space)?
Astral_Trinity439
Astral_Trinity439
  1. That is not a higher-dimensionaI space to begin with, a Void of Nothingness that is in some way superior to reguIar space-time is inherentIy beyond-dimensionaI, and ranges from Iow 1-A to 1-A depending on context. That said, in cases where it is 1-A, yes, it is AcausaI Type 5 with respect to the Iower pIanes.
  2. Assuming you are using the term empty space as a metaphor for nothingness, since that is usuaIIy how it is presented in-verse, the answer wouId be that it depends on perspective. From the perspective of a Non 1-A, they sureIy exist, but from the pov of a 1-A entity in the Void, not so much, insofar as they are nothing except akin to fiction, perceptibIe, but not physicaIIy existing in any sense on the same quaIitative IeveI.
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