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Wankbreaker
Wankbreaker
Void shiki currently scales to 1-A for scaling to the "omnipotent" source of the verse, as she is believed to be it's avatar.
however, the statements are unreliable, because the way she says them expresses uncertainty in japanese.
Beings with the same nature and connection to this source as well do not have anything close to omnipotent feats or showings, and their profiles reflect that. for example, another character in the verse is only tier 6 despite her connection to this source from birth just like shiki, the only difference void has is the unreliable statement of "being the root itself."

However, this is contradicted, as statements put a girl who is physically an average human, but with an ability that ignores durability, above her in capabilities. If she was truly an avatar of this 1-A source, she would be able to replicate this exact ability, but at a higher scale. Not to mention that the strongest character in the verse as stated in a guidebook, is 1-C. She also has stated to have to fight "like her life depended on it" against a weaker version of a character who is Tier 6. WOG also puts her equally to another character who is Tier 6.
Q: In the other Type-Moon works, who else besides Arc can fight against Servants?

A:
If we're working on the condition of one on one, with an extremely average Noble Phantasm. Generally most of the 27 Ancestors, Kishima Kouma, Aozaki Aoko.
If it's just a defensive fight, but would still be a fight, then Ciel. Shiki (Rakkyo), Shiki (Tsukihime) are no match for Servants....but Ryougi Shiki (3rd personality) might be able to go as far as the Ciel class.
basically, the 1-A rating is heavily contradicted, as characters far below that are directly compared to her, or just flat out superior, the reliability of the statement nonwithstanding, as it is not only unreliable, but about 25 years old.
LephyrTheRevanchist
LephyrTheRevanchist
Oh, I see why the thread was dead, is Nasu stuff

Couldn't it be a situation where she has the 1-A abilities but it simply doesn't scale to her physicals?

Edit: Just saw the profile treats it exactly that way lol
Wankbreaker
Wankbreaker
well, I already have 1 staff agreement, but that was on his wall, so I just need 2 more.
Couldn't it be a situation where she has the 1-A abilities but it simply doesn't scale to her physicals?
That's the case..... but this doesn't help her at all lol. Especially since via her own profile, she is supposed to have all the abilities in the verse. She's also supposed to have immeasurable speed,so she's supposed to be able to blitz these characters, if we took the scaling as fact.

IF you see some of the scans in the thread, she has to fight extremely hard against, says that there is nothing to be done against a beast of Gaia/primate murder (which gives the context of implying any ability she would have would be useless against it). The fact that there's a statement where she can only fight defensively against a servant is pretty damning as well.

And Asagami Fujino is stated to have the highest combat ability out of anyone else in kara no kyoukai.. and shes just a regular human with a long range dura negation ability.

From Asagami Fujino's profile:
“単純な数値比べなら、物語中最高の性能。”"Simply in terms of a numerical comparison , her capabilities are the highest in the story.”
and from the old KNK webpage:

"なつかしい夏の雨の中、両儀式は最高の殺害能力を持つ少女と衝突する事となる。"

"In the nostalgic summer rain, Shiki Ryougi comes into conflict with a girl possessing the highest killing ability."
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