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Digital_Franz

You can ask Community_Gamer and Expectro for their opinions and then do a CRT on it.

EL_xWatcher1234x

I've asked Expectro about it, but he didn't answere.

CG agreed to your response here.

Digital_Franz

OK so we'll just need an estimate of the radius of the black hole and we can argue that it's a real black hole since the characters can manipulate gravity.

EL_xWatcher1234x

Finding the size will be hard

Kousuke

――Coolness depth Level VI

What it brought about was clones in number that increased by one digit. The total number was ten thousand. The amount of lord could be mistaken as a new dark cloud as they rushed through the sky.

And then,

「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」

The sky was completely covered by the secret technique black hole.

「NOwaaah――――!?」

「Etemp-saa―――n!?」

「Retreat retreaat! We’re going back to the grounddd」

Etemp almost got sucked in before Shia caught her midway. They retreated from the sky together with Kaori. Even the divine spirits were retreating from the battlefield in panic. Rune and Cino also almost turned into lost fairies before Enti protected them while yelling 「Stupidddd! Give a warning at least before you do something like thattt!」 in anger. Ch 424

The black asterism of destruction. They were sparking as they slowly rotated at the sky, swallowing the “shadow” further to the center. The scene looked like a black galaxy. Ch 424

Asterism: group of stars

“Kokutenkyuu” that numbered like the stars in the sky due to ten thousand of lords gathered at the center. They all fused and formed a gigantic star of disaster.

The cleansing pure white light covered the whole Japan. The light also flowed from the foot of the mountain to the peak, making the sacred mountain “Fuji” to shine.

「Sleep for ten thousand years more!!」

『Lend the eight ears of Saoshika to all the gods, asking them to listen and eat!!』

The lord extended one hand toward the gigantic “Kokutenkyuu”. He spread open his five fingers――and closed them in a crushing gesture.

The star shrunk right away. The “Dragon’s shadow” was completely annihilated without even any death throes. Ch 424

The reason it doesn't destroy the surrounding is because they deploy gravity barrier.

Yue creating BH and a punch of dragon gods.

――Ultimate gravity magic Black Sky Destitution

Its size was unprecedented. Four of them were formed simultaneously at the east, west, north, and south of the Heaven Tree.

Anything that was in their range, whether the surrounding apparitions in the sky, or the apparitions on the ground 「Even though we’re kneeling!?」, even the divine class got mercilessly sucked in.

The unrivaled suction power that was impossible to escape from devoured the apparitions greedily. Such sight was like a nightmare.

“Black Sky Destitution” was different from the similar gravity magic “Severance Calamity”. It wasn’t a magic to reduce the target into dust using gravitational pressure. It was an annihilation magic. Ch 417

――OoOOOOOOOOOOOO-

As expected from divine beings. The dragon gods endured even after getting swallowed into the “Black Sky Destitutions”. They all roared and unbelievably tore through the ultimate magic from the inside.

From the start they were able to make their large bodies flew in the sky. Naturally they at least had the authority to interfere with gravity.

In addition, right after all the “Black Sky Destitutions” vanished, the dragon gods also vanished from view. Right after that, they appeared once more above Yue. It seemed they could also interfere with space. Ch 417

BTW, Kouki was able to keep up with them with some help.

Although it they have different name, each person call this spell by a different name.

Miledi spells

Star of Calamity: An ability which creates a black whirling sphere that swallows anything and everything in the surroundings, pulverizing them from the inside.

Obsidian Vortex: The most basic of gravity spells, which allows the caster to create a localized gravitational field and adjust their weight.

Spatial Severance: An ability which creates a black hole that absorbs all spells used against her, regardless of their element.

Heavensfall: An ability which creates countless tiny black spheres that increase the gravity of whatever Miledi chooses.

Inverse Square: An ability which reverses the gravitational pull of anyone she targets.

Nether Burst: An ability which traps her targets in a gravity field, which crushes whatever is in it.

Onyx Blast: Gravity magic which fires a tiny cannonball of compressed gravity.

Whirling Sapphire: A powerful sphere of gravity-compressed fire magic which she shots towards her targets. It explodes with the force of a small sun, creating a huge shockwave.

Asura: A spell that creates a wide-area gravity field. With this ability she can envelop the entire island of Andika, and stop it from sinking to the depths of the ocean.

Event Horizon: A pseudo-black hole that has enough pressure at its center to crush anything.

Black Hole Nova: creates the closest thing to a true singularity, as it pulled an entire alternate dimension into it, and is basically a last-resort, self-sacrificing move.

More here and here

What do you think ?

Digital_Franz

It will exceed 1m.

EL_xWatcher1234x

Easily tier 5

Even Miledi who is weaker than current Yue was able to absorb the destruction of holy precinct which could destroy Tortus(possibly bigger than earth ).

Digital_Franz

Yeah.

Noneless21

She absorb it, doesn't mean she survived it

EL_xWatcher1234x

It's AP not durability

Don't see a reason why she'll try to survive it, especially when she stayed alive all those years just to end Ehit. Even her last thoughts were meeting her friends again.

Noneless21

No also

She absorbed it doesn't mean she can dish out the explosion

EL_xWatcher1234x

Why ?

Since when BH do that ?

Noneless21

it absorb the explosion, it doesnt really say anything more than that, not even more context besides she absorb the explosion using black hole

EL_xWatcher1234x

Then what's the problem ?

There is also Yue and Kousuke

Noneless21

first of all, that isn't even a real black hole, Miledi applied the black hole onto herself, which is already a pretty anti feat for real black hole

second of all, the only real possibly thing that can come close to black hole that was presented in that CG thread is Black Sky destitution, and that's not even true black hole , just something close to it

third of all, Miledi cant even completely absorb all of the explosion, it did prevent the world destruction but she did not prevent the explosion completely

fourth of all, you just sounds like someone who desperately clawing every nook and crannies to upgrade Arifureta, and it sounds weird and cringe imo

you can argue me as being biased but that's my take

Digital_Franz

Yeah, calm down please. I don't know how she applied the BH but it may not be an anit-feat. However with this it would be better to wait to have a visual to confirm the nature of the BH.

Noneless21

No offense but that's what I really thought

EL_xWatcher1234x

1) That was a one time thing, and I think Yuki from JJK was accepted for the same reason.

And no

Miledi smiled to herself, and a second later, her sky-blue mana flared out. Cracks appeared in her golem’s smiley-faced mask and her metal body started fading away from the edges, as if it was disintegrating.

Sparks ran down the body of the golem that had been made with all the knowledge and abilities at the seven greatest Liberators’ disposal, and a giant black sphere appeared above it. Just then, Miledi felt as though she sensed another person’s presence, so she looked up. Vol 13 p240

2)Pseudo BH ?

3)Just reread that part

“Oh, umm...come on, guys, why’re you getting all sappy on me?! I can’t even think of what to say! Anyway, get out of here. I really can’t hold this place together for much longer!” Vol 13 p 239

The swelling black sphere started swallowing everything up. The white room, all of the dimensions it was linked to, the cracks and holes that opened up into empty voids, all of it. It was like a true black hole.

Miledi’s golem was destroyed along with everything else, but her soul glowed brilliantly for one last moment, and she shouted with all her might the words that finally signaled the end of her long, solitary journey.

“I’m back, guys!”

A second later, the Sanctuary and everything in it vanished without a trace. Vol 13 p240

A few seconds later, the destruction of the world stopped spreading and instead turned back inward toward the center of the Sanctuary. It was almost as if it was being sucked in by a powerful black hole.

Once all the cracks were gone from the world, the Sanctuary vanished. Its destruction wasn’t accompanied by an explosion or a shockwave, but instead just silence and a brief ripple of light made up of seven distinct colors. Vol 13 p247

Seems like a BH to me

4)What's wrong with that?

I'm just asking the knwoledgeable members questions instead of making a CRT.

EL_xWatcher1234x

We also have these, but I didn't use them cause of the lack of details

“In my home world, humanity mastered exceptionally powerful magic. We had researched how to bring the stars under our dominion and channel the natural forces of the world. That should give you an idea of how advanced our civilization was.” Vol 13 p158

and

“The Enlightened was the name for the individuals who understood the true nature of the ancient magic everyone had learned to use. We few escaped the destruction of our star by traveling to a different world." Vol 13 p 162

But thus could be a mistranslation, I've seen multiple times where they use the words planet and star.

EL_xWatcher1234x

This is a basic spell

This was one of her gravity spells, Spatial Severance. She’d created a black hole that absorbed all spells, regardless of their element. Even the knights’ Celestial Flashes couldn’t escape the dark star’s singularity.

celestial flash(check Kouki's profile)

Celestial Flash: An attack which emits an intense light from his sword and with a slash is released from the sword, drawing a curve, and bisecting the target in its path.

(The tower is a magical artifact)

Meiru and Naiz nodded immediately while Miledi poured all of her mana into creating the biggest Spatial Severance she could. The moment she did, the tower Rasul was standing on fired an aurora of rainbow light at her.

“Like hell we’re losing heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere!”

Miledi absorbed the beam with her Spatial Severance.Though the beam was powerful enough to raze armies, it wasn’t powerful enough to escape Miledi. However, there was so much energy contained within the beam that its aftershocks could still hit the capital even if the beam itself was absorbed. Which was why Naiz was protecting the central plaza with a spatial barrier. Meanwhile, Meiru continued casting restoration magic on Miledi’s Spatial Severance, preventing it from getting too saturated and exploding. The sky above the capital was covered in multicolored light. And as time passed, the beam slowly began to push Miledi back. She struggled to maintain her Spatial Severance, but it consumed so much mana that she was quickly running out. Meiru, too, was using a prodigious amount of mana to continue restoring Miledi’s Spatial Severance. Zero Vol 3 p348

Her struglling with it could be due to mana influencing gravity and space.

Kousuke did something similar(1m), and it's not even the strongest gravity spell.

Any problem ?

Lloydblitzed

The novel heavily implies its a real black hole (especially with the Gravitational Pull part), and absorbing Tier 5 lvl of Energy implies they can take that much power themselves. If the verse has some kind of Universal Energy System, the feat should scale to all their cats

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