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TheRustyOne
TheRustyOne
I'm going to assume that the Limited Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2; all aspects) & Abstract Existence (Type 1) & Acausality (Type 4, possibly type 5) & Nonduality (Type 2)

Isn't something to worry about if you're even asking this question.

Not certain, this man makes himself stronger and makes his opponent weaker and slower as well. That's a significant buff and debuff right there. His stamina is enough to fight for weeks without rest, which is greater than anything in MHA. I have no idea how effective his abilities are, and I'm also incapable of judging skill as well.
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DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Yeah that only applies to his mind/soul, so unless you have fuckery regarding anything about those you're in the clear

It's not a MASSIVE Buff/Debuff, but it's enough to be somewhat relevant(like, it's 20% or so)-- though I should note that if you get him away from the Great Book of Grudges it's a non-issue because Thorgrim doesn't generate the buffs himself.

As for skill, this is the same guy who goes in and out of millions of trained soldiers without being touched once, and there are numerous stupid army solos below Thorgrim in the skill chain of similar absurdity(we have fodder who make rivers of blood from massive monsters and trained soldiers for gods' sake), but Dwarfs aren't exactly known for stellar agility and dodging, so it's largely fine until you realize Thorgrim knows full well how hard his armor is to get through, which makes him a problem because he's liable to Senator Armstrong attacks that aren't directly to his head, and even then he'll try to block headshots(pretty useless against AoEs though)
TheRustyOne
TheRustyOne
As long as he doesn't have something that one shots, guaranteed to severely mutilate in one attack, or become immune to damage, it should be fine for some.

Him using a sharp weapon like an axe also helps far more, as he'll slash and crush with it.

How well would restraining work against him?
DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Yeah basically for the general they'll barely do damage to the armor but they can damage the head fine

Considering Dwarfs are beyond muscular and that's forgetting that Thorgrim is in thick armor, generally even getting a grip is a hell of a trick unless your hands are massive, and Thorgrim isn't about to sit there and let it happen
TheRustyOne
TheRustyOne
Aren't they small? Guess they're really wide? Though I wasn't thinking in terms of an arm or any kind of limb locks. I was thinking holding one down to the ground. As long as you can reach the limbs, you don't need to wrap around them or anything.

And yeah, no one will let themselves be restrained but I was just asking in a pure void with no context. Like against Blackwhip or Jeanist's Carbon Fiber cables.

But I have no doubt he can avoid or counter from what I'm seeing.

To be more clear, beyond his own martial skills and size. There's nothing that'll magically prevent him from being restrained?
DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Gotrek here is a Dwarf with no armor on. They are just about as wide as they are tall

As for trying to hold one to the ground, it's a good way to lose a hand or get whatever it is cut by an axe with super-NPI axe, but otherwise, yeah, Thorgrim isn't someone like Thorek who can move his weapon once and suddenly all restraints just got reduced to their constituent atoms, Thorgrim doesn't have anything like that unless he's in second Key with prior knowledge of his nature as an Incarnate. Ya know. The 5-C key.
TheRustyOne
TheRustyOne
Super-NPI? Non-Physical Interaction?

Last thing, what are his ranged options? I see Tens of Meters with Auras, what is that?
DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Non-Physical Interaction yeah, basically, if it exists, a magical weapon can usually Interact with it in Warhammer Fantasy, and any Axe of Grimnir is a god-tier magical weapon

Nonexistent until second Key with aphor mentioned prior knowledge. The Auras are basically for the book and his own bolstering of Dwarf forces, as said before, get him away from the book and all issues dissolve unless you're teaming him up with like, Ungrim Ironfist. Why you'd want to team a Slayer with a guy who buffs his already obsurd capabilities in combat I don't know but yeah.
TheRustyOne
TheRustyOne
He sounds fine and not some super stomp instant victory character.

Can't say anything more unless I know who he's up against. I can say without question he'd rip through someone like Muscular though.
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