Old Ones are Low 1-A, Far Realm guys are incomprehensible to them and are 1-A for other reasons.
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Mr. Bambu
Eseseso
So High 1-B multiverse < Old Ones < Far Realm < Luminous Being?
Mr. Bambu
There's another step in the Far Realm bit for Uvuudaum/Far Realm Elder Evils but yeah, more or less.
Eseseso
Ok, thanks.
It's just that I didn't see anything in the cosmology blog or any profiles stating that the Far Realm > Low 1-A Old Ones.
It's just that I didn't see anything in the cosmology blog or any profiles stating that the Far Realm > Low 1-A Old Ones.
Mr. Bambu
I thought the scan was in there but yeah, the Old Ones can't conceive of the Far Realm at all- they can't understand its existence.
Eseseso
Neat, thanks.
That really clears it up.
That really clears it up.
Eseseso
Btw, how do the 6-C D&D people have 4-D hax?
Mr. Bambu
Specific statements of affecting gods or being beyond gods' powers (or similar castes of beings, such as Demon Lords or Archfey or whatever).
Solars specifically hax Demon Lords, Epic Level magic users specifically frighten the gods with their capabilities, etc.
Solars specifically hax Demon Lords, Epic Level magic users specifically frighten the gods with their capabilities, etc.
Eseseso
Got it, thanks!
And if I am correct, the 2-A's have 1-A BFR, fear hax, and madness manipulation via scaling to Elder Evils of Far Realm, right?
P.S. The stuff about the 1-A Far Realm/Elder Evils being transcendent above the Old Ones should really be added to the blog or the profiles tbh.
And if I am correct, the 2-A's have 1-A BFR, fear hax, and madness manipulation via scaling to Elder Evils of Far Realm, right?
Mr. Bambu
I often miss comments on my own wall, apologies.
Gods have 1-A hax due to having all spells, which includes things like 1-A BFR (if you can call it that, it's weird), fear, and madness hax. All of it is of variable potency, the BFR being probably the most notable by VSBW's standards since while in-game it just drops fuckloads of damage on someone, it is directly stated to be the 1-A Far Realm (or some creature therein) digesting you to damage you.
Elder Evils aren't all the same. The Elder Evils we have current profiles for aren't the ones who are believed to be the source of the Far Realm- it's a bit confusing but there's a specific subsection of Elder Evils worshiped by the Abolethic Sovereignty that have that statement. Someone like Dendar or Kezef are not 1-A in any capacity.
Gods have 1-A hax due to having all spells, which includes things like 1-A BFR (if you can call it that, it's weird), fear, and madness hax. All of it is of variable potency, the BFR being probably the most notable by VSBW's standards since while in-game it just drops fuckloads of damage on someone, it is directly stated to be the 1-A Far Realm (or some creature therein) digesting you to damage you.
Elder Evils aren't all the same. The Elder Evils we have current profiles for aren't the ones who are believed to be the source of the Far Realm- it's a bit confusing but there's a specific subsection of Elder Evils worshiped by the Abolethic Sovereignty that have that statement. Someone like Dendar or Kezef are not 1-A in any capacity.
Eseseso
Btw, in case you're interested: https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-lady-of-pain-vs-eru-iluvatar.157220/
Eseseso
One last thing: Is the hax for the Leviathan and Asmodeus 4-D or is it higher?
Mr. Bambu
Leviathan, yes
Asmodeus, at least, yes.
Asmodeus, at least, yes.