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Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
It would be something for the Celestials to forge the stones but idk what that something would be.
RoTt35
RoTt35
I see, so for example the Mind Stone manipulating the fundamental/essential/primordial aspect of mind in the universe would just be Mind Manipulation?
Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
It wouldn't be mind manipulation, it would be some form of conceptual manipulation if anything.
RoTt35
RoTt35
Oh that's more interesting, what type of Conceptual Manipulation could the Infinity Stones have then?
RoTt35
RoTt35
Could they qualify for Type 1 based on this?
  • The Infinity Stones are the remnants of six Singularities that existed long before the universe
  • They can work in other universes and timelines
  • They can still work even if their whole timeline is destroyed
  • Ancient One stated that removing an Infinity Stone from their own reality would doom it
Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
I don't think they would, because when outright destroyed the universe is fine as shown by both the main multiverse and Gamora's alternate universe. They would just be Type 2.
RoTt35
RoTt35
WoG stated that the Infinity Stones of the main universe still exist at the atomic level:
Q: Ancient One says stones are essential to flow of time. How come Thanos is able to destroy them?
A: Thanos only reduced the stones to the atomic level. The stones are still present in the universe.
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Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
If that's the case, then since they predate the universe some would be Type 1. Since some of the stones don't predate their concepts.
RoTt35
RoTt35
Which ones would be type 2? The Time Stone and some other?
Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
Really what kills the stones is the entire existence of Arishem and this intro line
In the beginning.......before the six singularities and the dawn of creation, came the CELESTIALS. Arishem, the Prime Celestial, created the first sun and brought light into the universe. Life began, and thrived. All was in balance.
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The fact that Arishem existed before the stones means that everything other than maybe the Soul Stone cannot be Type 1. Since Arishem's existence would involve all other concepts governing the stones. But to go over it:

  • Space: There was a difference between Arishem and the Six Singularities, suggesting that either they were in a void without space or there was separation. This is maybe Type 1
  • Mind: Since Arishem can form independent thoughts the Mind Stone would be Type 2
  • Reality: Since reality conceptually existed the stone would be Type 2
  • Power: Since Arishem, under his own power seemingly, made the Big Bang the Power Stone is Type 2
  • Time: As you said this would be Type 2
  • Soul: This might be Type 1 as long as Arishem doesn't have a soul or anything like that
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