Yes I think Gabriel vaporizing a mountain is calculated at far above Island level so the tier wouldn't change much, however we should see why Lazy and DT wrote that "should be stronger than/comparable" to Mjolnir.
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XDragnoir
20GTs it seems.
Yeah, could you ask them? Maybe they can explain it.
But man, it's really sad that the verse has nearly 0 revisions and when it has one it's a downgrade, tho i think this can upgrade some characters, Kanzaki will probably not have the 7A rating anymore, just 6C.
Yeah, could you ask them? Maybe they can explain it.
But man, it's really sad that the verse has nearly 0 revisions and when it has one it's a downgrade, tho i think this can upgrade some characters, Kanzaki will probably not have the 7A rating anymore, just 6C.
Zensum
Sure I'll bring it up sometime.
Now that I think about it, Arc Fusion having a variable tier from City Block - Large Island would probably be more accurate since it looks like his blade AP correlates with the blade length according to Silvia and it looks like Lightning God Thor can increasingly draw out Mjolnirs power and focus it into his blades 20 - 200 - 2000 meters.
Now that I think about it, Arc Fusion having a variable tier from City Block - Large Island would probably be more accurate since it looks like his blade AP correlates with the blade length according to Silvia and it looks like Lightning God Thor can increasingly draw out Mjolnirs power and focus it into his blades 20 - 200 - 2000 meters.
XDragnoir
I think we shouldn't do that, since there still isn't proof it will ever reach Throwing Hammer level, and Mjolnir's own level is 7A not H6C, we can't use scale a character to their power source without direct statements saying they have the same power level.
6C would scale to the 2km Blades due to scaling to Silvia anyway.
6C would scale to the 2km Blades due to scaling to Silvia anyway.
Zensum
It’s in the same vein as Mjölnir being capable of using lightning element power on the level of the Throwing Hammer spell with its own magic output, therefore Lightning God Thor with a connection spell to Mjölnir can utilize that same lightning element power into his Arc Fusion spell if he needed. That’s pretty much what being a power source implies and Mjölnir is explicitly a generator for Thor, unless you found a reason why Thor can’t freely draw out Mjölnirs power? We have statements for that at least.
Background:
Mjölnir is a weapon created with Dvergr techniques and in the Norse format if you wield a weapon of the gods and possess a connection spell you can draw out 100% of the power of that god. While Marian is a pure Dvergr, our instance is still subject to Idol Theory, power wise, since Thor is only a magician modeled after that god and Mjölnir is only a magician’s whose physical body is modeled off of Thor’s hammer, rather than being a perfect reproduction like Gungnir. The comparison still works however since Thor is a stand in for the god and the girl is a stand in for the hammer so model Thor should have access to 100% of the model hammer's power.
Background:
Mjölnir is a weapon created with Dvergr techniques and in the Norse format if you wield a weapon of the gods and possess a connection spell you can draw out 100% of the power of that god. While Marian is a pure Dvergr, our instance is still subject to Idol Theory, power wise, since Thor is only a magician modeled after that god and Mjölnir is only a magician’s whose physical body is modeled off of Thor’s hammer, rather than being a perfect reproduction like Gungnir. The comparison still works however since Thor is a stand in for the god and the girl is a stand in for the hammer so model Thor should have access to 100% of the model hammer's power.
XDragnoir
Yeah it can use lightning magic, but it's generic magic being in the level of the Throwing Hammer? This part i don't remember (i don't know why Mjolnir would even have a 7A end if all it's power were H6C), but if you have the quote saying that then a downgrade would not be needed, tho a few changes to Mjolnir's profile would be needed, and WWIII Gabriel's justification still needs some proof that it scales to H6C.
But even then, just because they have a power source does not mean that they have the full power of the source, if it did then Fiamma would be 5B in base and H1C in LPSaD.
But even then, just because they have a power source does not mean that they have the full power of the source, if it did then Fiamma would be 5B in base and H1C in LPSaD.
Zensum
Made some edits to my previous post.
Yeah it can use lightning magic, but it's generic magic being in the level of the Throwing Hammer? This part i don't remember (i don't know why Mjolnir would even have a 7A end if all it's power were H6C), but if you have the quote saying that then a downgrade would not be needed, tho a few changes to Mjolnir's profile would be needed, and WWIII Gabriel's justification still needs some proof that it scales to H6C.
No it's not. Only the Throwing Hammer spell gets H6-C. I'm just saying Lightning God Thor should be able capable of using Arc Fusion on the level of the Throwing Hammer spell as both him and Mjölnir have the same power source when linked.
Fiamma held 100% of the power the right hand should possess but couldn't draw out 100% because he lacked the spiritual rank which is why he needed LPSaD. In Norse Mythology it's similar to Dvergr being capable of making perfect Norse weapons, but being unable to use 100% of their power be cause they lack the god's binding connection spell.
Anyways I'll see what DT and Lazy think about this later. Thanks.
Yeah it can use lightning magic, but it's generic magic being in the level of the Throwing Hammer? This part i don't remember (i don't know why Mjolnir would even have a 7A end if all it's power were H6C), but if you have the quote saying that then a downgrade would not be needed, tho a few changes to Mjolnir's profile would be needed, and WWIII Gabriel's justification still needs some proof that it scales to H6C.
No it's not. Only the Throwing Hammer spell gets H6-C. I'm just saying Lightning God Thor should be able capable of using Arc Fusion on the level of the Throwing Hammer spell as both him and Mjölnir have the same power source when linked.
Fiamma held 100% of the power the right hand should possess but couldn't draw out 100% because he lacked the spiritual rank which is why he needed LPSaD. In Norse Mythology it's similar to Dvergr being capable of making perfect Norse weapons, but being unable to use 100% of their power be cause they lack the god's binding connection spell.
Anyways I'll see what DT and Lazy think about this later. Thanks.
XDragnoir
No it's not. Only the Throwing Hammer spell gets H6-C. I'm just saying Lightning God Thor should be able capable of using Arc Fusion on the level of the Throwing Hammer spell as both him and Mjölnir have the same power source when linked.
They have the same power source, but the source isn't in the level of the Throwing Hammer, it took more than 10 seconds of spinning to get release the attack, it would be like giving someone with Gabriel's entire power as a source Sweep level of power, we can't without statements since these aren't attacks the source itself can release naturally and needs time to charge (and i know Sweep isn't a perfect example, but anyway).
Fiamma held 100% of the power the right hand should possess but couldn't draw out 100% because he lacked the spiritual rank which is why he needed LPSaD. In Norse Mythology it's similar to Dvergr being capable of making perfect Norse weapons, but being unable to use 100% of their power be cause they lack the god's binding connection spell.
And even in LPSAD we don't give him H1C even tho he had IB inside the Holy Right as a power source, so without quotes that Thor's blades could reach H6C i simply don't agree with it, it's literally the same situation with Fiamma and IB (and with even less background or quotes).
They have the same power source, but the source isn't in the level of the Throwing Hammer, it took more than 10 seconds of spinning to get release the attack, it would be like giving someone with Gabriel's entire power as a source Sweep level of power, we can't without statements since these aren't attacks the source itself can release naturally and needs time to charge (and i know Sweep isn't a perfect example, but anyway).
Fiamma held 100% of the power the right hand should possess but couldn't draw out 100% because he lacked the spiritual rank which is why he needed LPSaD. In Norse Mythology it's similar to Dvergr being capable of making perfect Norse weapons, but being unable to use 100% of their power be cause they lack the god's binding connection spell.
And even in LPSAD we don't give him H1C even tho he had IB inside the Holy Right as a power source, so without quotes that Thor's blades could reach H6C i simply don't agree with it, it's literally the same situation with Fiamma and IB (and with even less background or quotes).