Yeah sure I'll look at it in a bit.
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ActuallySpaceMan42
Current Tiering has Timelines capped at Countless Layers into High 1-A, everything past that is part of the CRT so your opinion on it would be appreciated.
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Cat275
I'll check a little later. (probably tomorrow)
Cat275
Sorry about the delay.
I was a bit busy and I still am so I'll be checking the cosmology in like a few hours, Just letting you know.
Hope you're patient enough.
I was a bit busy and I still am so I'll be checking the cosmology in like a few hours, Just letting you know.
Hope you're patient enough.
ActuallySpaceMan42
Np man no rush.
Cat275
Great dao seems like a good start it's quite similar to apophatic in a way that it's ineffable however I think I'm missing context here?
Don't remember the structures but are there high 1-A things below it? (the origin) if so you can either argue for tier 0 or a lot higher into High 1-A.
Do the space time particles have any use here? I guess the use here is pretty much that it's high 1-A matter by the wiki.
It does talk about microsopic worlds but probably not much help from what I see atleast not in the overall tier.
For the information part I think you already have something in mind? Tier 0 sounds good.
Mainly because of this.
This is like defining a complete universe of set on a incomplete set and class system.
More importantly:
"Information can't be described with words, and its boundaries can't even be imagined. If you can imagine what the information is, then what you think is definitely not real information, at least not the whole picture. "
This implies a infinite iteration of language which doesn't really help by wiki standards (it should) but this statement does imply the thing I said above and seems to imply the whole thing as ineffable. (I remember [] to be like this so should be good as a tier 0 evidence if things below it are high 1-A)
I guess this is good as well? Class of inaccessible (not related at all) are inaccessible layers into inaccessible yet it's not 1-inaccessible.
Okay looking at this interface settings I may have doubts on origin now.
However I'll check back on that some other time.
For the third dimensional plane can you fill me up with that? I don't exactly remember that and I'm not exactly sure if them being unchanged or seperate will do some tiering unless if you have your ideas. For the number nth plane either means n is a free variable where n>2 or n is simply what you are talking about which are the natural numbers. I don't have much thoughts on that.
If the three-dimensional space-time was closed, the universe would stop expanding and become a universe with a boundary.
Seems nice as a higher layer? Seems to remind me of closed and bounded set.
We already went over high tiers so this much won't help but:
Good infinitesimal statement I suppose.
We also went over this if I remember correctly but assuming there is no root:
You probably already know that R^3 is 3d which if we iterate the set of all R's (assuming CH) is aleph-2.
R in cardinality does not really change until R^R point I'm trying to make is that lower dimensions in Real coordinate spaces can very much be higher dimensions if you add enough same value as it is. (That being R many R of the value (*R).)
I don't know what to make of this statement:
At the very moment I can see origin being tier 0 and things higher.
I'll continue again later since I can see that I haven't even read more than half of it but for now I'll be sleeping.
Don't remember the structures but are there high 1-A things below it? (the origin) if so you can either argue for tier 0 or a lot higher into High 1-A.
Do the space time particles have any use here? I guess the use here is pretty much that it's high 1-A matter by the wiki.
It does talk about microsopic worlds but probably not much help from what I see atleast not in the overall tier.
For the information part I think you already have something in mind? Tier 0 sounds good.
Mainly because of this.
"It has no definition. It is the definition itself."
This is like defining a complete universe of set on a incomplete set and class system.
More importantly:
Ordonis sighed. "There's no end to it …"
"Information can't be described with words, and its boundaries can't even be imagined. If you can imagine what the information is, then what you think is definitely not real information, at least not the whole picture. "
This implies a infinite iteration of language which doesn't really help by wiki standards (it should) but this statement does imply the thing I said above and seems to imply the whole thing as ineffable. (I remember [] to be like this so should be good as a tier 0 evidence if things below it are high 1-A)
I guess this is good as well? Class of inaccessible (not related at all) are inaccessible layers into inaccessible yet it's not 1-inaccessible.
Okay looking at this interface settings I may have doubts on origin now.
| "You can edit the settings in the interface. All the dimensions are yours. You can even design a few more concepts in the dimensions. You can also turn off the settings that the root algorithm has been comprehended. You can make up for all your regrets, experience everything you want to experience, save everything you want to save, and redeem everything you want to redeem … " |
However I'll check back on that some other time.
For the third dimensional plane can you fill me up with that? I don't exactly remember that and I'm not exactly sure if them being unchanged or seperate will do some tiering unless if you have your ideas. For the number nth plane either means n is a free variable where n>2 or n is simply what you are talking about which are the natural numbers. I don't have much thoughts on that.
The way to prove it was simple, the universe was expanding.
If the three-dimensional space-time was closed, the universe would stop expanding and become a universe with a boundary.
Seems nice as a higher layer? Seems to remind me of closed and bounded set.
We already went over high tiers so this much won't help but:
Good infinitesimal statement I suppose.
We also went over this if I remember correctly but assuming there is no root:
You probably already know that R^3 is 3d which if we iterate the set of all R's (assuming CH) is aleph-2.
R in cardinality does not really change until R^R point I'm trying to make is that lower dimensions in Real coordinate spaces can very much be higher dimensions if you add enough same value as it is. (That being R many R of the value (*R).)
I don't know what to make of this statement:
At the very moment I can see origin being tier 0 and things higher.
I'll continue again later since I can see that I haven't even read more than half of it but for now I'll be sleeping.
ActuallySpaceMan42
At the moment the 3rd Dimension is tiered ar 1-A, and the 4th is High 1-A (Both because they can have their own concept of dimensions and higher dimensions, but still not reach the next actual higher dimension).
As for Origin Algorithms, they don't really have a Tier other than scaling to Information in some regard. It should be noted Information is the end-all be-all of the verse and is currently Tier 0, due to being Apathetic. I think this quote sums it up the best.
As for Origin Algorithms, they don't really have a Tier other than scaling to Information in some regard. It should be noted Information is the end-all be-all of the verse and is currently Tier 0, due to being Apathetic. I think this quote sums it up the best.
Put simply, even Origin algorithms are simply set to control information, by more information.
Cat275
I'll continue to read the blog again later (in a few hours probably) but like I said I can atleast see origin to be tier 0 since it's ineffable to high 1-A objects right? It's explained as the great dao which seems to imply dao in buddhism. (It's like an ineffable thing, some versions won't really qualify for qualitive superiority but this seems well explained enough.)
ActuallySpaceMan42
Awesome!
ActuallySpaceMan42
Have you managed to judge any further?
Cat275
Sure I'll write down some of the relevent ones.
I wanted to use this as a thing for a higher tier because of how it's described through a high 1-A hierarchy although I think this is evaluated as high 1-A?
Not too relevent so I'll skip.
Quotes after is fine for additional tier (the lower ontologies that assign makes it pretty debatable) although if that doesn't work then this is the more relevent one you can use this in the real multiverse:
Rather debatable but for an anology we form a stationary set lesser than mahlo now one thing you need to note that every mahlo is 1-inaccessible then 2-inaccessible and so on. The point I'm making here is that if we form a hierarchy with something as an all totality it would adhere to something quite similar to kappa.
Say that there is kappa-inaccessible then it's basically all the degrees of inaccessible to be constructed. (The ones weaker than kappa)
Sooo if I'm getting the hierarchy right (the ones before the real multiverse) this should quantify atleast an additional tier since while it's not a stationary set (in anology) weaker, it's something similar which should work since otherwise many verses wouldn't be 0 in anology to it needing to be mahlo or mahlo like.
Although I wouldn't say this is a 100% since it's debatable but just think of it as how information is tiered this way but well weaker in anology and evidence of course.
For this:
Do these things suspend a bigger tier as they go? Or atleast a higher layered. I remember the N^N's parts assuming it's closed in 001 I find it to be 0.
Ignoring the inaccessible differences we see that the timeline is High 1-A.
Let's say this is a set and is a inaccessible then if 001 closes this then every Power set is weaker than it so it's akin to a 1-inaccessible or the 2nd inaccessible (not 2-inaccessible) in anology. Ignoring everything else of course. How was this rated again? High 1-A right..? I should ask ultima why he rated it high 1-A since I'm pretty sure he thinks a lower cardinal than mahlo suffices for the current 0. (Won't say what it is.)
To be honest the other higher dimensions should be 0 as well.
I guess I'll evaluate something else then.
Debatably lowers my opinion or highens my opinion.
Since it could either mean my anology of it is wrong or my anology is right but now we see k+1 assuming k contains all.
So really it could also mean P(inaccessible).
Not relative of course but well it's an anology.
Lol I don't know whether to take this seriously or no but you should already have an idea if so.
It's confusing which is actually which but I'll see this as either a higher layer or an additional tier.
Now for this:
This has nasuverse vibes and It accounts to an inaccessible different from what I'm seeing.
Not sure what an infinite omnipotence is but assuming it's omnipotence but is word salad then:
This should be good evidence.
This implies infinite true dimensions if that's not a thing yet.
Eh I don't know whether this is actual but assuming it's an in fiction work and mechanism then I guess this is like P(aleph-0)?
Okay so extrapolating if the dimensions were just high 1-B then you would be 1-A since this dimensions are High 1-A (I'm assuming this is how it's treated in the wiki since I'm pretty sure this is rated) then this can probably account for a higher tier? Especially when the quote seems to say the concept of the totality and not just many ontologies/realities (<- one way to word it) of it.
Seems like an inaccessible difference.
More layers I guess.
So for an overall tier I see (this is not ranked since I don't know some of which is higher).
Blue and white - 0 or likely 0?
The blue moon residence - Same rating as blue and white.
The box - Possibly 0.
The land of lights - 0.
001 - 0.
Interface - 0.
Absolute supreme - 0.
Author - 0.
I don't know where roots upscale but I'll give it a 0 or likely 0.
I also don't know where true dimensions upscale but is it just those higher dimensions that are not in lower dimensions?
I'll skip the endless journey. You can have your own ideas.
I wanted to use this as a thing for a higher tier because of how it's described through a high 1-A hierarchy although I think this is evaluated as high 1-A?
Not too relevent so I'll skip.
Quotes after is fine for additional tier (the lower ontologies that assign makes it pretty debatable) although if that doesn't work then this is the more relevent one you can use this in the real multiverse:
Rather debatable but for an anology we form a stationary set lesser than mahlo now one thing you need to note that every mahlo is 1-inaccessible then 2-inaccessible and so on. The point I'm making here is that if we form a hierarchy with something as an all totality it would adhere to something quite similar to kappa.
Say that there is kappa-inaccessible then it's basically all the degrees of inaccessible to be constructed. (The ones weaker than kappa)
Sooo if I'm getting the hierarchy right (the ones before the real multiverse) this should quantify atleast an additional tier since while it's not a stationary set (in anology) weaker, it's something similar which should work since otherwise many verses wouldn't be 0 in anology to it needing to be mahlo or mahlo like.
Although I wouldn't say this is a 100% since it's debatable but just think of it as how information is tiered this way but well weaker in anology and evidence of course.
For this:
Do these things suspend a bigger tier as they go? Or atleast a higher layered. I remember the N^N's parts assuming it's closed in 001 I find it to be 0.
Ignoring the inaccessible differences we see that the timeline is High 1-A.
Let's say this is a set and is a inaccessible then if 001 closes this then every Power set is weaker than it so it's akin to a 1-inaccessible or the 2nd inaccessible (not 2-inaccessible) in anology. Ignoring everything else of course. How was this rated again? High 1-A right..? I should ask ultima why he rated it high 1-A since I'm pretty sure he thinks a lower cardinal than mahlo suffices for the current 0. (Won't say what it is.)
To be honest the other higher dimensions should be 0 as well.
I guess I'll evaluate something else then.
Debatably lowers my opinion or highens my opinion.
Since it could either mean my anology of it is wrong or my anology is right but now we see k+1 assuming k contains all.
So really it could also mean P(inaccessible).
Not relative of course but well it's an anology.
Lol I don't know whether to take this seriously or no but you should already have an idea if so.
It's confusing which is actually which but I'll see this as either a higher layer or an additional tier.
Now for this:
This has nasuverse vibes and It accounts to an inaccessible different from what I'm seeing.
Not sure what an infinite omnipotence is but assuming it's omnipotence but is word salad then:
This should be good evidence.
This implies infinite true dimensions if that's not a thing yet.
Eh I don't know whether this is actual but assuming it's an in fiction work and mechanism then I guess this is like P(aleph-0)?
Okay so extrapolating if the dimensions were just high 1-B then you would be 1-A since this dimensions are High 1-A (I'm assuming this is how it's treated in the wiki since I'm pretty sure this is rated) then this can probably account for a higher tier? Especially when the quote seems to say the concept of the totality and not just many ontologies/realities (<- one way to word it) of it.
Seems like an inaccessible difference.
More layers I guess.
So for an overall tier I see (this is not ranked since I don't know some of which is higher).
Blue and white - 0 or likely 0?
The blue moon residence - Same rating as blue and white.
The box - Possibly 0.
The land of lights - 0.
001 - 0.
Interface - 0.
Absolute supreme - 0.
Author - 0.
I don't know where roots upscale but I'll give it a 0 or likely 0.
I also don't know where true dimensions upscale but is it just those higher dimensions that are not in lower dimensions?
I'll skip the endless journey. You can have your own ideas.
ActuallySpaceMan42
Also, would you mind listing the questions you asked? The quotes seem to have messed up and mixed with your questions so I'm a bit confused about what things you are asking about specifically.
The Absolute Supreme is just a character in a fictional novel of one of the True Dimensions.
Also, would you mind listing the questions you asked? The quotes seem to have messed up and mixed with your questions so I'm a bit confused about what things you are asking about specifically.
ActuallySpaceMan42
Also everything is in order of least to greatest, so it goes Dimensions, Timelines, Real Multiverse, The Box, Land of Light, 001, The Absolute Supreme, True Dimensions, Blue and White World, Blue and White Residence, Interfaces, and then the Endless Journey.
Cat275
Quotes are fixed.