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Fireld

I've seen 2 translations of Kaido's encounter with Shanks, do you know what the real deal says?
Even with current Shanks being weaker, based on these can he still rival Mihawk to some degree?
Luffy's Red Hawk gets durability negation for its fire going thru his opponents body thus negating durability. Wouldn't this count for Ace too?

MonkeyOfLife

Luffy's Red Hawk gets durability negation for its fire going thru his opponents body thus negating durability. Wouldn't this count for Ace too?

Not really no... That actually pierced his body...

Luffy's red hawk also explodes their insides

Even with current Shanks being weaker, based on these can he still rival Mihawk to some degree?

Yee, also nothing says shanks in being weaker... It even said he didn't lose any strength or something from it and some implications of him being stronger then he used to

Ill see if I can find the scan about kaido and shanks

Fireld

Not really no... That actually pierced his body...
Luffy's red hawk also explodes their insides

Luffy punches people in the gut & a fire explosion appears in their backs. Ace's spears kinda phased thru BB's torso burning his insides too. Wait how did they pierce him when no holes were visable afterwards? Or does BB have a healing factor?

Yee, also nothing says shanks in being weaker... It even said he didn't lose any strength or something from it and some implications of him being stronger then he used to
Ill see if I can find the scan about kaido and shanks

There's some sources saying "Shanks used to be as strong as the strongest swordman in the world", "Mihawk being in the world strongest class even 1-armed" & one says "He hasn't gotten weaker from the loss of his hand". Do you take this last one that Shanks=Mihawk even now?
Thanks in advance!

MonkeyOfLife

Luffy punches people in the gut & a fire explosion appears in their backs. Ace's spears kinda phased thru BB's torso burning his insides too. Wait how did they pierce him when no holes were visable afterwards? Or does BB have a healing factor?

Hmm

not sure, limited/minor dura neg could maybe work then if it's like that in the manga

There's some sources saying "Shanks used to be as strong as the strongest swordman in the world", "Mihawk being in the world strongest class even 1-armed" & one says "He hasn't gotten weaker from the loss of his hand". Do you take this last one that Shanks=Mihawk even now?

I think there's a reason why we don't fully know who is stronger currently, but at a time I think mihawk was >= shanks but unsure...

Fireld

Hmm not sure, limited/minor dura neg could maybe work then if it's like that in the manga

So i checkd the colored manga: BB does bleed a little when hit by the spears but later after the spears disappear, there're no holes in his body, just a few scratches/burns. You think possibly limited dura neg might still work?

I think there's a reason why we don't fully know who is stronger currently, but at a time I think mihawk was >= shanks but unsure...

So do I but Eminiteable said Shanks can't be =< Mihawk, only < because Mihawk is the Strongest Swordmen. Tho i disagree with him since there're verses with X character being the fastest/strongest, have an equal & still keep their title. Also the Yonko were called the 4 strongest pirates in the Ace Novel, 2 of them had a "World Strongest" title; at the very least they should be at a comperable level.

MonkeyOfLife

So i checkd the colored manga: BB does bleed a little when hit by the spears but later after the spears disappear, there're no holes in his body, just a few scratches/burns. You think possibly limited dura neg might still work?

Uhh, probably... Tho the spears aren't shown getting through the other side of the body... So could be limited dura neg or blackbeard having a healing factor or darkness ability

but yee

So do I but Eminiteable said Shanks can't be =< Mihawk, only < because Mihawk is the Strongest Swordmen. Tho i disagree with him since there're verses with X character being the fastest/strongest, have an equal & still keep their title. Also the Yonko were called the 4 strongest pirates in the Ace Novel, 2 of them had a "World Strongest" title; at the very least they should be at a comperable level.

~~Eminiteable is biased~~ , but yee there are no ACTUAL blunt confirmation... Just assumptions, and there a lot more to take in to account with who wins in a fight... Haki exists also

~~Mihawk was even accepted by them (I think) to be > roger....~~

Fireld

~~Eminiteable is biased~~ , but yee there are no ACTUAL blunt confirmation... Just assumptions, and there a lot more to take in to account with who wins in a fight... Haki exists also

~~Hmph~~

... Speaking of Haki, i don't think Mihawk being Clairvoyant & not finding Shanks a worthy opponent wouldn't be instant confrimation that Shanks' severly weaker since Shanks can neg Observation Haki.

~~Mihawk was even accepted by them (I think) to be > roger....~~

~~Really!? First Oden>Prime Rayleigh, now this...~~

MonkeyOfLife

~~Really!? First Oden>Prime Rayleigh, now this...~~

wait, you new or something? That shit made me mad mad

scaling says it, so it's true

no... Your heacanon sa.... Ok nothing

~~Hmph~~... Speaking of Haki, i don't think Mihawk being Clairvoyant & not finding Shanks a worthy opponent wouldn't be instant confrimation that Shanks' much weaker since Shanks can neg Observation Haki.

About mihawk and clairvoyant... I swear that was just supposed to be his other name instead of mihawk... Is there something I missed about a statement on clairvoyant with mihawk?

Gallery MEMO:
Mihawk was complete from the initial design. His second name was "Clairvoyant"!?

Also his vivrecard is talking about his swordsmanship and stuff, nothing about being stronger or the strongest swordsman title I think

The "world's greatest swordsman" who looks at his prey from the most powerful position!

A rare great swordsman who has distinguished himself since before the time of the great pirates and now reigns as "the best in the world" in both name and reality. Mihawk, who joined the Shichibukai, has been traveling around the seas as a solitary pirate without a group. He spends his days killing time. The "Hawk's Eye", feared by all who practice swordsmanship, looks forward to the arrival of a wielder in the future who will surpass the "Red-Haired", with whom he once crossed blades. .....!

Fireld

About mihawk and clairvoyant... I swear that was just supposed to be his other name instead of mihawk... Is there something I missed about a statement on clairvoyant with mihawk?

There was a section of the vivrecard saying he could see the true strength of those in front of him. That sounded simular to Clairvoyance, it reminded me of Blackbeard judging Luffy's strength without even fighting him & both have observation haki. I'm wrong on this one, aren't I?

Also his vivrecard is talking about his swordsmanship and stuff, nothing about being stronger or the strongest swordsman title I think

Like chapter 1058 described it, the more skilled swordsman.

Fireld

Ill see if I can find the scan about kaido and shanks

Any luck with this?

MonkeyOfLife

↑ エース救出に向かうひげの箸を取らんと画策!制止した赤髪と衝突するなど、好戦的。

"四皇"カイドウとの小競り合いはつい昨日の事

↑ He plots to take Hige's chopsticks on his way to rescue Ace! He is belligerent, clashing with Red Hair, who stopped him.

His skirmish with the "Four Emperors" Kaidou happened only yesterday.

Fireld

I forgot to respond, thanks

!

Beard's

, is there a missig letter or sth

?

MonkeyOfLife

Oh yee wtf... I think one letter is missing

↑エース救出に向かう白ひげの首を取らんと画策!制止した赤髪と衝突するなど、好戦的。

↑He plots to take the head of Whitebeard, who is on his way to rescue Ace! He is belligerent, clashing with Red Hair, who stops him.

Fireld

Noice, thanks again!

Fireld

Are these translations of Jozu & Marco's Vivre Card accurate?

MonkeyOfLife

Jozu translation one is quite accurate...

And Marco, you didn't give anything... If its the Ohara you are talking about well maybe very little? But not accurate at all... It doesn't address everything

Anything from ohara is basically just his headcanon of the vivrecard, like... Yee, its like me going and explaining Marco's vivrecards and giving idk bye

Fireld

Both of the 2 Jozu translations were made by Ohara. ~~Guess Jozu was to tough to get headcannoned by him...~~

As for Marco, i just wanted to know if the line about him being WB right hand man was really in his vivre card or just added by Ohara?

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