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GyroNutz
GyroNutz
Here are the ones I've found so far:

Charging Chuck destroys large rocks (uncalced)

Goomba destroys a large rock (currently used on profiles for 9-B, accepted)

Koopas destroy bricks (Supporting feat for 9-B, accepted)

Goombas destroy balls (Supporting feat for 9-B, seemingly accepted)

Goombas tank castle explosion (9-B/9-A feat, not accepted currently)

Monty Mole digs a hole (8-C feat, accepted)

Sumo Bros can cause cloud-to-ground lightning strikes (Potentially 8-C, not accepted currently)

Then there's Bob-Ombs sending Mario to space (7-C individually) and I also remember you pointing out a few feats too.
Imaginym
Imaginym
I think at some point, in one of the Mario General Discussion Threads, I calculated the hole a Bob-Omb created in a tunnel in SMRPG, but IDK if it was legit.
My blog has a feat for a Goomba launching a giant roulette ball by ramming it, but IIRC, it needs to be recalc'd because my assumptions about the material composition were flawed.
My blog also has a calc for the Koopa from MP4 surviving a Tidal Wave that destroys his hotel. May be others on my blog.
I think Spinosaurus did a Calc Request for me that Calc'd a Tweester. Would scale to Paratroopas & playable characters like Dry Bones & Boo.

I don't remember where, but I MIGHT have Calc'd or brought up Chain Chomps ramming in Duel Mode, but it's like Wall Level & we may scale Chain Chomps above that. But DM Chain Chomps are only like, as big as Playable Characters.

Special moves from SMRPG may also be calc-able, if we accept calc-ing Attack Animations.

Thanks so much for looking into this! : D
Please inform me if a Thread is published or there's more you're concerned with you'd like me to know about!
GyroNutz
GyroNutz
The Goomba ramming a giant roulette ball is one of the calcs I linked p sure

There was a feat you mentioned from Mario Party back in one of the discussion threads, where members of the playable cast drove around and destroyed boulders by punching them. Would you be able to find a clip of that?
Imaginym
Imaginym
Oh. You listed it as "Goomba destroys a ball" so I thought it was a different feat I didn't know about it.
Goomba doesn't destroy the roulette ball. If he did, he wouldn't be running his casino very well. XD
Should be easy to find footage.
Problem is, it's MP6. Meaning the least powerful Playable Characters are probably like.... Boo, Koopa Kid, Toad & Toadette, I guess?

In theory, you MIGHT be able to argue scaling the Shy Guy drivers IF the broken boulders, like... explode & send their fragments in the directions of the drivers who sit idly waiting in their open-top cars behind their windshields.
But that'd mean it's Fragmentation/Violent Fragmentation for those scaled.

There's also the issue the boulders take multiple hits to break, & I'm not sure how many of which type of hits, minimum or maximum, the boulders need to be broken.
GyroNutz
GyroNutz
Boo would work, they're not typically presented as being that strong a minion physically. I counted the number of (max) punches to break each rock.
Small rocks - 4 punches
Medium rocks - 7 punches
Big rock - 14 punches
And it looks to be either fragmentation or violent fragmentation, leaning towards the former.
Imaginym
Imaginym
Is the same true for kicks? Are you able to record those tests? (The latter isn't a big deal, but could be very helpful.)
Also, I might check myself, but does it look like any rock fragments went near the Shy Guy drivers?

Also, if we want to calc the rocks, it'll probably be best to get footage with Mario next to the rocks; He has a known height, & the others, IIRC, would require measuring Mario to measure them to measure the rocks, so it's easier if Mario is present.

Any opinion on Duel Mode Chain Chomps being scaled to other enemies?
GyroNutz
GyroNutz
Kicks works out the same, I don't have Mario Party 6 so I'm relying on online footage. The rocks all seem to be launched forwards rather than omnidirectionally.

Here's a clip with Mario.

I think generally Chain Chomps are treated as far stronger than most regular enemies. Wouldn't make sense have all fodder scale to them imo.
Imaginym
Imaginym
In Mario Party 3's Duel Mode, it may be notable that the Chain Chomps there are only about as big as the Player Characters, & deal 1 damage, so Koopas & such can survive it, but okay.
Here's the Tweester Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Tweester_(Mario)

I can't find my calc of the SMRPG Bomb thing. Luckily, the feat is easy to find.

We may need to check the Japanese dialogue, however; It seems it's gotten when Mario beats Croco in the mine & it says he "found a BOMB". On one hand, it looks just like a regular Bob-Omb. But on the other hand, SMRPG does contain a few subtypes of Bob-Ombs.

Still, the hole it makes, if it's applicable to Bob-Ombs, might be at least a supporting feat for the yield of their often suicidal explosions.
GyroNutz
GyroNutz
I mean, usually chain chomps are smaller than the player characters, in the platformers at least. So that'd mean it's a bigger than usual chain chomp.

I'll add Tweester to the list.

The feat would be applicable to Bob-Ombs, but their explosions likely aren't applicable for scaling to any other minion.
Imaginym
Imaginym
Did you miss this from my blog? I alluded to it earlier:
Though, like with the Tweester (Even if Tweesters are a regular enemy & usually aren't that big, AFAIK.), surface area may make the yield scale to lower than the calculation's yield.

Incidentally, where will we be putting Koopa Kids (NOT Bowser Jr./Baby Bowser.)? Scaled to Main Characters? Or fodder?
They may have other feats, but one that stands out in my mind (Despite having several reasons not to use it.) is Koopa Kid being launched to the horizon.
Imaginym
Imaginym
By the way, any idea how soon this thread will be published? I'm super eager to see where it goes.

Oh, that reminds me! There's a feat in Super Star Saga where Bowser's whole ship blows up & seemingly everyone survives.
We should get that calc'd. Two ways are ideal; 1 by measuring the explosion(s) in the cutscene, & another by calcing the size of the ship based on the maps, & maybe also the materials destroyed
I might have calc'd the explosion size, but like with the mine BOMB in SMRPG, I can't find it AtM, so it may be simpler just to have the Bowser Ship feat Calc'd or Calc Requested.

Will this Revision be concerned purely with Statistics, or also Powers & Abilities?
Imaginym
Imaginym
(Also, I guess it's reasonable to assume the BOMB is just a mistranslation, & the Bob-Omb imagery is meant to show it's an actual Bob-Omb, rather than a placeholder, right?
& I agree about not scaling other fodder (Except stronger ones like maybe Chain Chomps, Hammer Bros, etc.) to Bob-Omb explosions, since Bob-Ombs that survive exploding seem to be the exception, not the norm.)
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