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ActuallySpaceMan42
I edited the explanations for the resistances for Conceptual Manipulation and removed Age Manipulation since it didn't make sense when I thought about it.
Confluctor
Oh alright, I will look through them later. Today and the day before I had like 12 - 13 hour shifts. So I will look through them fully - hopefully - tomorrow
ActuallySpaceMan42
Don't want to bug you, just asking if you had a chance to check it yet.
Confluctor
Yeah, sorry, I was a bit busy. But the rest looks good too.
Bodhisattvas;
Tho, I think Subjective Reality seems more like creation to me? Can you explain why it's SR please?
Not sure about HDM and invulnerability either ngl.
Creation can't be resisted. Its not that kind of power. EE seems somewhat dubious too sadly.
Dharma Bodied Buddhas;
Subjective Reality seems more like standard RW to me.
Power null and bfr resistance seems kinda Sus to me.
Dharmakaya;
Not sue I understand Subjective Reality here, sorry. Can you explain?
EE, power null, immortality negation, seems somewhat Sus. Can you explain further why they should have this?
Rest looks good tho, good job
Bodhisattvas;
Tho, I think Subjective Reality seems more like creation to me? Can you explain why it's SR please?
Not sure about HDM and invulnerability either ngl.
Creation can't be resisted. Its not that kind of power. EE seems somewhat dubious too sadly.
Dharma Bodied Buddhas;
Subjective Reality seems more like standard RW to me.
Power null and bfr resistance seems kinda Sus to me.
Dharmakaya;
Not sue I understand Subjective Reality here, sorry. Can you explain?
EE, power null, immortality negation, seems somewhat Sus. Can you explain further why they should have this?
Rest looks good tho, good job
ActuallySpaceMan42
The HDM comes from the fact the world means the universe and The Dharma encompasses The Great Way which further encompasses the entire JTTW Cosmology which is a recursion of Universes. So The Dharma is an HDM in nature and can control the universes it encompasses. Each of which has paradox-like realms in them that are both inside the Universe but also outside of it.
My bad about Creation I didn't know. As for the EE/Invulnerability stuff, it's also stated they see annihilation as nothing as well. Plus it's stated that via The Great Way which they have mastered you can obtain an indestructible body.
As for the Power Null and BFR, it's basically an Immortality Type 8 Situation, you cant get rid of their power or The Dharma they are a part of without getting rid of the True Form (Dharmakaya) that is in a higher plane than what they operate on.
So basically Buddha-Nature is both a conceptual thing and a real thing. It's like a Category. It exists in all things whether it be form or formless, phenomena, existence, nonexistence, etc. It even exists within the boundless substances and functions of dualities and what not. So basically Buddha-Nature literally means all 'Things'. So for example this part of the Novel it seems paradoxical to say everything is equal to one another. However, that's because everything is one 'Thing' with that 'Thing' being Buddha-Nature.
The main emphasis of Buddha is the unreality of things. And right here it is stated The Dharmakaya does not view 'Thing' as real. The Dharmakaya however does not have Buddha-Nature and yet is nonexistent in nature. Its state is described as True Emptiness in comparison to false nonexistence containing Buddha-Nature. Its described as a person rises getting closer to becoming a Buddha they see more things as nothing. Eventually becoming a Buddha, which leads back to the whole final emphasis of a Buddha is viewing things as unreality.
So simplifying: Buddhas decide what Buddha-Nature is, and can view things they see Buddha-Nature in as unreality. The Dharmakaya is the unity of all Buddhas as Buddhas and their Mind are one and the same. This would include all Buddha-Natures, The Dharma, etc. Via utilizing Buddha-Nature beings are capable of doing anything.
It's extremely confusing but none of this is headcanon. I can show scans backing any part of this up, and a quick search will display the meaning of any of the words I've mentioned. Journey To The West basically makes the ideas and concepts behind Buddhism reality, instead of just being a state of mind.
So basically every single one of their powers comes from The Dharma. Which in itself isn't even power, in reality, it's Teachings, Sutras, etc. Meaning they are deriving abilities and powers from text and information. And it's stated they can do this to a boundless extent. So basically Dharma Power, in general, is just stuff from text and teachings being inserted into reality as abilities and whatnot.
The HDM comes from the fact the world means the universe and The Dharma encompasses The Great Way which further encompasses the entire JTTW Cosmology which is a recursion of Universes. So The Dharma is an HDM in nature and can control the universes it encompasses. Each of which has paradox-like realms in them that are both inside the Universe but also outside of it.
My bad about Creation I didn't know. As for the EE/Invulnerability stuff, it's also stated they see annihilation as nothing as well. Plus it's stated that via The Great Way which they have mastered you can obtain an indestructible body.
It's the same thing I said about The Dharma above, except now they have become one with it.
As for the Power Null and BFR, it's basically an Immortality Type 8 Situation, you cant get rid of their power or The Dharma they are a part of without getting rid of the True Form (Dharmakaya) that is in a higher plane than what they operate on.
Now that I think about this isn't a ability but I'll still explain it.
So basically Buddha-Nature is both a conceptual thing and a real thing. It's like a Category. It exists in all things whether it be form or formless, phenomena, existence, nonexistence, etc. It even exists within the boundless substances and functions of dualities and what not. So basically Buddha-Nature literally means all 'Things'. So for example this part of the Novel it seems paradoxical to say everything is equal to one another. However, that's because everything is one 'Thing' with that 'Thing' being Buddha-Nature.
The main emphasis of Buddha is the unreality of things. And right here it is stated The Dharmakaya does not view 'Thing' as real. The Dharmakaya however does not have Buddha-Nature and yet is nonexistent in nature. Its state is described as True Emptiness in comparison to false nonexistence containing Buddha-Nature. Its described as a person rises getting closer to becoming a Buddha they see more things as nothing. Eventually becoming a Buddha, which leads back to the whole final emphasis of a Buddha is viewing things as unreality.
So simplifying: Buddhas decide what Buddha-Nature is, and can view things they see Buddha-Nature in as unreality. The Dharmakaya is the unity of all Buddhas as Buddhas and their Mind are one and the same. This would include all Buddha-Natures, The Dharma, etc. Via utilizing Buddha-Nature beings are capable of doing anything.
It's extremely confusing but none of this is headcanon. I can show scans backing any part of this up, and a quick search will display the meaning of any of the words I've mentioned. Journey To The West basically makes the ideas and concepts behind Buddhism reality, instead of just being a state of mind.
Confluctor
I see thank you. That was helpful.
Would you mind adding this explaination to the blog itself somewhere? Might make it better
Would you mind adding this explaination to the blog itself somewhere? Might make it better
ActuallySpaceMan42
Cool, I'll make changes according to that. One last question though, would the whole Buddha-Nature thing be considered a part of their transcendence? Or would it actually be an ability since Buddha-Nature would automatically encompass things in a vs match?
I will go through the rest later today after work.