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Unfortunately, I’m just not sure we have any clear cut wall level calcs

Also, just curious. So why exactly would Halara scale to Fubuki? I think I agree with it, I’m just curious on direct reasoning

Also. For what it’s worth. I think Vivian could go on Athletic Human pain tolerance. Average Human energy exertion for stamina. With the current reasoning you have, I think this lines up

The coin should definitely yield it though if you're saying it takes that level of power to crack the helmet like that

Halara could probably scale past Fubukis reaction speeds given shes an actual athletic fighter who has been shown to blitz others like Yuma and the Peacekeepers. Fubuki's reaction time likely wouldnt be better than Halara in a vaccum, but at the same time theres an argument that Fubuki just naturally has faster reactions because of her Forte.

Yeah ill fix Vivia's unknowns but its tricky with him. He literally can never get bothered to move and doesnt eat, meanwhile we then also have showings that he can outpace others

I agree. Regardless, the street level Rain Code feat was accepted

That makes sense. I think it should work, especially given that they can avoid gunfire

That’s why I put him in average energy exertion. We don’t see him exert too much, but he can when he needs to, just doesn’t prefer it. So theoretically higher, but just doesn’t. Gets tired easily. But, being able to go without eating for a while likely means he can endure pain pretty well

Btw, is this feat of Shinigami destroying a giant megaphone with her laser possible to calc?

I’m not sure we get enough reference for its size, as it’s pretty far. I’m also not sure it would yield a very high result compared to what’s already been calced. Also, I think destroying it is a result of the right answer? So it might just fall under “higher with solving mysteries”

Its from Shinigami's laser, which has to be 'empowered by truth' from Yuma. Either way its definitely a massive structure

What about the Yuma/Mystery Phantom destruction feats from Chapter 5?

I could check it out later

Wait can you point out the value for the Class 1 Lifting Strength elevator thing that gets it to that?

When it comes to specifically the megaphone calc, it’s far away, mid air. So we just don’t get enough reference to calculate it. It’s certainly a strong feat. We just can’t say how strong. That being said, if you find anything else, let me know

Honestly. Given that we see the world itself just shattering, this feels like Universe level+ for me. So I think you could just do “up to universe level+ with right answers” for both labyrinth Yuma and Shinigami. Again, still feel free to give me stuff to try and calculate if we want to try to find a baseline somewhat. But this sounds like what it’s going to be in the end

True but it feels more like the world just automatically shatters on its own whenever the culprits soul gets purged. At least in the first 4 cases, then it takes a while for the Labyrinth to dematerialize due to Yomi's masterminding.

I'll reach the ML to chapter 4 soon and properly deep dive.

Maybe this feat of parryin the stone blocks could be used as a base LS feat? Though Yuma does also deflect an amaterasu train car

Fair enough. Well then I’ll check it out

Hmmm. Honestly. I’m not sure if
1; this would be a LA feat. He just kinda strikes at it. Not as much lifting. I could see if maybe involving lifting. But
2; I don’t know if could be calculated for lifting. And if so, how I’d do it. Given how it’s acting in the air, with floating and all, applying our physics to how much force he’s applying doesn’t really feel like it works here. I’d say a standard “superhuman” lifting is what I’d go with here

Fairs, apparently you can determine the strength required to deflect it as a lifting feat but i wouldnt know properly

What about calculating the accumulated destruction of Shinigami destroying the entrance to the fortresses in the Mystery Labyrinths?

You could probs find references for the size of the Mystery Phantoms and calc the surrounding area? Might yield beyond High 8-C?

Indeed have strongly considered that. I just don’t think they’re too much bigger than the wall she casually breaks. Definitely bigger. But I’m not certain they’d reach past city block level. But I could look into it

honestly. The size of the mystery phantoms is inconsistent. At some times, they look maybe 7-10 feet tall. Here though, they look maybe a bit bigger than god Shinigami, who’s like 11 meters tall (like 37 feet). We can’t know how they compare to her I don’t think, just because of the distance between them

Regardless, I don’t think the number would yield too far above the building level we calculated for breaking through the walls

I know there was some big explosion Yuma made… chapter 4 I think? I may look for that, or if you find it, link it. I don’t think we get enough reference to calculate, but I could try to find something

Also btw. Yuma in the mystery labyrinths can probably be wall level with superhuman lifting at a base. Wall level first for the high falls he endures at the beginning of the labyrinths, and also for breaking down wooden doors and such. You can find justification for the wall level on the references for common fears page. If you can’t find it, lmk

Also, I think I’m gonna look at the pocket dimensions Shinigami makes, and see if there’s any estimation I can make on the power for those