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Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
Obviously all things come down to a litany of small details to consider. These details can't be relayed in abstract examples.

That said, I would say that the first feat is a pretty substantial anti-feat to the second. I won't say "cannot" because there are circumstances where the second feat would be used over the first-- it isn't a hard-set rule-- but it would be a daunting obstacle, imo.
Pxnd_013
Pxnd_013
I would like to give a clearer example

Character A’s feat is as follows: he is attacked at extremely close range, but he is able to counterattack using his arm. This results in a calculated speed of Supersonic, and this feat is performed while he is fighting seriously

On the other hand, Character B’s feat involves moving very quickly across a large distance, resulting in a Hypersonic speed calculation, despite Character B not even trying seriously.

In this case, can Character A Scaling from Character B? Since Character A only moves his arm, the distance involved in the feat is inherently limited, whereas Character B is able to move across a much greater, essentially unrestricted distance. If Character A were placed in the same situation as Character B, he should logically be able to perform the same feat, given that he is clearly superior to Character B

Therefore, would the Hypersonic calculation be considered valid, and would Character A be able to receive scaling from it as well?
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
As I said, I would find it decidedly tenuous, even with the added context. However, I will say that Character A would receive scaling, if it was used, since they're obviously superior to Character B.
Pxnd_013
Pxnd_013
Thank you for your answer, but may I ask another question?

On the outlier page, it states: “If a character with several city destruction feats is shown to be able to destroy a mountain, we cannot necessarily consider it an outlier, for the reason that the jump between tiers is not extreme enough to be so, despite the jump between the energy values we attribute to them.”

The example given shows a difference of several thousand times, yet it is still usable. So, does this also apply to speed? If not, how much of a speed difference would there need to be for it to be considered an outlier?
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