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Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
You're fine.

My impression so far has been that Spatial Manipulation is a blanket ability and Domination is a subset of that ability, or a specific application- one of the scans gave me this impression. Space-Time Manipulation seems logically like the next step from Spatial Manipulation, but it does not seem automatically plausible that it inherits the abilities of all subsets of Spatial Manipulation if it, itself, is just the next step of a blanket ability.

If this isn't the case, I'd appreciate some scans elaborating on what the situation is here, because the sheer explanation of "this receives the abilities of this" doesn't mesh well right now.
AstraphelNoctis4
AstraphelNoctis4
Okay, unfortunately I don't have the scan right now. Anyway, it seems like you only disagree with that particular part, right? In that case, I’d appreciate it if you could comment directly on the thread stating what you agree with and what you don’t,since even the OP isn’t fully certain about it, and the main proposals are already straightforward enough and you've agreed with most of them. Just need a final confirmation before we apply the changes.

I want that thread closed as soon as possible.
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
It isn't the only scab I want to pick at, no- but if you'd prefer we can discuss them here, rather than the thread, I don't mind much.
AstraphelNoctis4
AstraphelNoctis4
Yes.

Anyway, may I ask what other things you disagree with or aren’t so sure about?
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
This might help, considering that Velgrynd is an Ultimate Existence(whose willpower is on the level of an Ultimate Skill user despite not possessing one, similar to Dagruel)and is not bound by the Laws of the World like typical Ultimate Skill users. So, I believe this should be sufficient to grant resistance to Ultimate Skills, no?

As for density manipulation, yes .

he manipulates the mass of his body or other things without altering their shape, then increasing or decreasing their mass would effectively mean making them denser or lighter
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This bit didn't really satisfy my issue. I had asked if the ability was manipulating someone else's density, since the proposal is to give resistance to density manipulation (albeit that I believe the proposal is more fundamentally flawed, in that I believe they are not resisting the specific application but rather the root framework for the ability); you sent a scan in response that didn't seem to state anything related to my inquiry. You then posted the above statement, which doesn't seem to give an answer or evidence, either.

Can this ability affect the density of another individual, and can an individual with Ultimate Existence (or whatever nomenclature they use for it) resist that?
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