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I’ll see if I have time to read that thread but don’t count on me I’m super busy

i give my answer here.

and also explained why stars are important as well

Hi, I know you are very busy, so I don't want to bother, I'll just keep you updated.

After long discussion, Damaged set himself as neutral, and other moderator stopped answering as well to my arguments, quite some people came to agree.

My final stance is linked there above, if you disagree you can address my arguments, however if you disagree with scaling itself you can handle it with your next thread, my aim is just upgrade Gremmy's clones and Zaraki Shikai, you can handle the rest of scaling by yourself in the next thread when you do it, as other people suggested.

I think this is a good feat to have to add of the collection of Bleach feats in this Wiki, it's a very straightforward feat as well and I think my indexing and proof are strong.

Update your OP with staff votes please

I dropped my comment

I see, thanks for the input, beside the 4A and Galaxy discussion which is pretty useless since the anime uses 4A.
This would be my scaling:

Gremmy:

At least Multi-Continent level (Gremmy is probably the strongest Sternritter and no other Sternritter dared to challenge him, albeit whether this encompasses the full capabilities of The Visionary or simply his base power is unknown, he can somewhat keep up with eyepatch Zaraki, and only started losing because he imagined himself losing, up to Multi-Solar System level with 7 and 8 clones (Upon summoning 7 clones, Gremmy was able to instantly create an outer space full of stars without effort. Using the same ability, The Visionary, he also fully sacrificed with an explosion the same exact 7 clones, which could injure Zaraki Kenpachi with his Shikai, this act required him more effort than anything before, with him wanting to win)

We will use thisfor the 4A value as per feats page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/R...ng_a_pocket_dimension_containing_a_starry_sky

Zaraki:

At least Multi-Continent level (Consistently has the upper hand against Gremmy), at least Moon level without eyepatch (long explanation copy-pasted from profile), up to Multi-Solar System level with full power Nozarashi (He was able to tanks the complete suicide of all Gremmy's clones, which previously created outer space, his power is so great that made Gremmy's imagination collapse), far higher with Nozarashi and without eyepatch, even higher with Bankai

If we follow this, there will be no other changes, since no one scales to Shikai Zaraki, Gerard and Toshiro as for now.
Other characters like Unohana, Aizen have their moon level rating from others.

Only 7 gremmy made the space, as in the anime, if you argue the extra clone that was doing nothing, it was present as well during the explosion. But only 7 clones actively create the space and as well the suicide after. I posted the anime clip.

No

8 Gremmy cannot explode without Gremmy offing himself, meanwhile nothing says he needs to be on screen for all 8 to participate in summoning outer space. I also don’t care to argue scaling on my message wall rn, if you want to argue scaling do it in the thread

I mean, we see 7 clones actively creating it for the space with their hands, there are no 8 clones, the 8th only appear way after the creation of the space for the explosion.
regardless I think it's a pretty strong argument that only 7 actively create it, and then those 7 explode, the 8th was shown only after the explosion.

I’m not stopping you from holding that stance buster

I'm just making clear my position, so you can handle scaling in the future, I like when Bleach supporter comment on my thread.
Thanks for the input anyway!

Yep keep up the good work, nice to see people getting after it regardless of agreements vs disagreements

I would like your support or neutrality for scaling Zaraki tho