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Why do you think deku can outspeed gears after he took them of?
And its doesnt matter since deku can still attack and defend himselg without moving anywhere
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6-A Tournament] R1 – Match 3: Izuku Midoriya (MHA) vs. Magneto (FOX X-Men) 11-0-12 GRACE for INCOn
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And its doesnt matter since deku can still attack and defend himselg without moving anywhere
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He doesnt need to use his feets
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huh are you saying he can outspeed gear being put back on him? i mean they have equal speed so he would have to be constantly dodging his best bet would to use a smoke screen atp
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okay if he breaks them mag can put back shards of the iron soles back into 1 piece and then put it back on him
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Smoke screen is a good counter
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He doesnt need to break it
Mag can restrain him with it, deku can still attack and beat magneto
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I already addressed this, he just defends himself with massive wind pressure attacks that are strong enough to disintegrate his gear. Using the gear again doesn’t matter if he can defend against it.
Gearshift does not increase his AP to High 6-A. High 6-A only comes from Fa Jin having a capacity for 5x amp via Deku charging it to the max. Gearshift does not give High 6-A.
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Okay okay, Magneto uses DEKU'S own costume filled with metals to telekinetically wrap him and restrains him fully with Class Z forces. Hands bound, legs bound. His whole body unable to move, because magneto can literally adapt and stretch metal to fit & encompass the size of any target, no matter how small his metal of choice is.
HOW the living FLIP does Deku use AIR ATTACKS. If his hands are bounded, his legs are bounded, whole body literally closed up and roped up like a Captured Gotham or Spiderman villain in Class Z inducing metal strings. It'd literally be instant because quite literally Magneto is using as he's done in the past, metal located on or around people to restrain them. This doesn't take a second or 2 and Deku not having prior knowledge literally means he won't expect it and he can't react. I don't understand how Deku breaks the metal restrains when they're literally squeezing down on him
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By powering up.
He can, just by powering up his OFA, completely shatter all of his equipment immediately. The only equipment that wouldn’t shatter easily are the Iron Soles.
Class Z LS with METAL manipulation. Meaning he has Class Z LS only via to the material he is using. If he has weak material, the material can shatter from Deku attacking it and he is no longer restrained. The material of Deku’s costume is weaker than his full power, he can shatter it immediately if he needs to WITHOUT MOVING HIS BODY. He just flexes his power and everything on him will immediately break into pieces, meaning Magneto’s restraints will no longer be there, meaning Deku can use his limbs.
This also completely ignores that he has Blackwhip which can also completely shatter his own gear and he can spawn it from all over his body to break it everything.
Like, ok, he restrains Deku immediately as the e fight starts. Now what? He has about 10 seconds to now kill him instantly before Deku figures out how to escape and removes Magneto’s only win condition.
How does Magneto kill Deku after he restrains him but before he breaks out. He doesn’t need his limbs to escape. He has the stat advantage. Magneto is attacking him blindly because Deku is going to use Smokescreen to limit visibility. What is the plan.
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voting Deku for @Kingofwolves999’s reasons. I just don’t see how Magneto counters Deku just destroying his suit by powering up.
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What would it take to shatter the iron soles. I've noticed you saying he'd have to take his shoes off for that one, but he wouldn't be able to ever take them off with Class Z forces causing them to reshape around his entire body. They wouldn't just be on his feet anymore, but wrapped around him.
If he can easily shatter those too that's fair.
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How does shoe sized metal can reshape around his entire body?
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I just recall him being able to stretch metals all across people's body in the movie when I watched them years ago. He can stretch them thin while maintaining their integrity IIRC? I know he did it to Wolverine but I don't remember the other movies that well tbh.
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İf je stretch metal its makes metals durability weaker
He cant make it thinner while protect intensity
Deku would break it more easily
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I don't think that's ever shown. Especially since he can maintain its integrity with his metal manip.
I could be misremember, but I recall him bending and stretching metals never decreasing its resilience and still just tanking everything thrown at them/they were thrown at.
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not really, it can be incon grace which last 72 hrs iirc and if enough votes come out then it can be put into regular grace.
i'm still not really convinced Deku can make up for the massive range and LS disadvantage he's at. Smokescreen doesn't stop Mag from tracking where is he based on any metal on his body or magnetic fields he places on him, he could just continue raining absolute hell on him via Danmaku with any metal object around the world and arena.
idk why were acting like Deku has a MASSIVE ap advantage over Mag when its barely a 1x difference between the two of them. yes, i'm well aware Deku upscales from his value since it was done well incredibly exhausted and him already being above what All Might could do but that doesn't suddenly give him a oneshot level advantage over Magneto's omnidirectional forcefield around his body well he continues to grab and manipulate literally everything around the planet that had any sort of metal in it.
the only time Deku was stated that "he could obliterate above his ap class" was when he had access to literally all the quirks including his amp one which he does not have here.
Any broken metal can just be put back to its original state by Mag restoration of metal objects, Deku has to literally jump through hoops and hurdles well Mag's is literally "I hold my hand down and pile on thousand upon millions of different metal's onto him with Class Z level force"
Deku tearing through his gloves and suit with blackwhip isn't as impressive when you remember the gloves are already downscaling from his 100% in durability since the one's made by Hatsume are replicas of his previous ones and like what does tearing his suit do? he'll still have the Iron Soles on his body which is gonna be incredibly hard esp when the argue is "he can just take em off" when and how? when's he's getting forced down by Class Z level force? and having thousand's of other metal's thrown at him?
if Blackwhip grabs literally any metal then it's getting forced right back at Deku since Magento has a far higher LS over what Blackwhip could do and Blackwhip has never been shown to destroy anything besides when Deku used it as a melee weapon against Shigaraki's growth.
all of Deku's stronger shockwaves require him to actually launch an attack, simply powering up isn't suddenly gonna create a shockwave around him that blows everything away in a kilometer radius when thats never something he's done
Magento can also just manipulate the magnetic fields around Deku if absolutely need be to keep him in place since he can create and manipulate them as he pleases.
Deku's shockwaves are not as strong as his actual punches. ton's of weaker characters have felt their after affect and were unfazed by it, Shigaraki did not gaf about any of the shockwaves and face tanked em like nothing. Magento shield will eat his shockwaves like nothing.
people can vote for what they want of course but i'm firmly placed on Magento having the far easier and simple wincon which literally consist of "I can manipulate everything around and on my opponent with Class Z level force well sitting in my omnidirectional forcefield" well Deku has to go through a ton of hoops and hurdles for his wincon to be achieved.
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voting mag for @Bruhtelho reasons
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İf its was becomes incon grace, op can choose fighter with heads or tails
Deku can cover himself with blackwhip so magnetos metal manip cant really do any damage to him, they keep destroyed by it
Dekus ap would be enough to destroy magnetic field by attacking it multiple times it cant last infinitely
Also deku doesnt really need to use blackwhip to destroy metals he can jse aoe shockwaves which would disignerate metals again and again
And magneto cant keep track him the moment deku break free from his metal armour, smoke screent could make it very hard
Magneto would have eaiser wincon but deku has more i guess
Danmaku wont be problem either
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He cant create metals ,can he?
Because stretching make thing thiner and its makes metal least durable
Straight thinking
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that doesn't do anything, the metal would literally just place itself on top of the blackwhip and continue to push down on him. again, blackwhip has NEVER been shown to destroy things only restrain and keep them in place which is gonna be hard when they have Class Z force pushing them down.
a barely 1x advantage? its gonna be pretty hard to destroy something that doesn't really react to things physically interreacting with it. quicksilver was literally pushing against his forcefield and it just bended against him pushing it. it can definitely last as long as Magento needs it to last since its made from metal and magnetic fields around his body.
said AOE shockwaves at their best require movement to cause as much damage as you'd think, simply powering up isn't gonna do much when magento keeps throwing thousands and restoring them back to their original shape around him constantly. he's not "disintegrating anything" Magento would be controlling the Metal so it'd be put up to where he is since he's using his own force on it and lifting strength.
gonna be pretty difficult to get rid of said metal when you have to literally take effort and time to take off an entire show. smokescreen is pointless as long as those iron soles or literally any metal is attached to deku hell as long as there is a magnetic force around him then Mag well know where he is.
Deku doesn't have more, idk where this idea came from but he's got one which requires deku to run a literal obstacle course to get to it well on the other hand, Magento's is literally "heh i think and gesture and this boy is in the ground with Class Z force well i sit in my bubble and throw thousands of other metal's at him and repair them.
Danmaku will be a problem since mag can attack from any direction with metal against Deku with thousand's of pieces,
this is headcanon. Magneto is applying his own force to the metal in order to manipulate it, if the metal was as weak as you're acting it is then every time Magneto would manipulate or bend it then they'd all shatter instantly which has never happen.
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İ dont want to say the same thing again so im just saying that blackwhip can penetrate and destroy things
Also what i said about stretching metal is about basic physics ,he cant keep the density of metals when stretching
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trying to apply physics to a show where character's can manipulate the magnetic fields of earth, read the minds of people, control a galaxy level godly bird, etc seems a bit much. its complete headcanon in the sense that its literally never shown to be as such, if physics mattered then Mag would destroy everything he tries to control or the world would just not exist.
the times it has are when it was morphed into smth different like chains which still only pulled ground up and not destroyed it and claws which were for melee combat. this a circular argument as every other time it has wrapped around or grabbed onto smth.
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Thats doesnt change anything thin is less durable then thick
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Ignoring that they said Magneto has showings of distorting metal and them still being just as durable which is proof that them using their metal manip doesn't affect the integrity, even if we assume it did, we can't quantify how much weaker the metal would be in a vs match so the difference would be negligible and not worth mentioning anyways.
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İts like you know how much durable that the metals was before magneto stretch and make them thiner
From what i see ,metals isnt so durable that direct attacks from other cahracters can destroy it without much issues
And we can easily find out how much it get weaker with using physic formula
İm not gonna do it now but you can ask ai
İf you want
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counted sorry been busy do you need like 3 vote gap to count a match into grace[Magneto FRA]
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First time?
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Street Bully Deku: @Aytugsss @Kaio1277999 @Dark_Soul20189 @JoeDM021 @Kingofwolves999 @Kachon123
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LS META DEMON merchant Magento: @Bruhtelho @JustANormalLemon @Arkansalter2 @RoTt35 @Raiden38 @AthelChan
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so its 8-8 i think we need a 11-8 vote to declare winner however if it gets too long ig i can start other R1 matches while we wait for votes
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so its 8-8 i think we need a 11-8 vote to declare winner however if it gets too long ig i can start other R1 matches while we wait for votes
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Does magnetos metal scale to his value?
Like while manipulating the metal does it have 6-A durability?
Like while manipulating the metal does it have 6-A durability?
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no metal doesn't gain dura; just like if he put metal on you pins you against a wall you couldn't move, probably due to his LS, the steel would still be the dura of, like, steel.
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