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I would be very shocked if the Emeralds could be transmuted icl to you.Ok what if Mario transmutes the Chaos Emerald? Super Forms have Transmutation Resistance but not the Emeralds themselves.
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I would be very shocked if the Emeralds could be transmuted icl to you.Ok what if Mario transmutes the Chaos Emerald? Super Forms have Transmutation Resistance but not the Emeralds themselves.
What does "icl" mean?I would be very shocked if the Emeralds could be transmuted icl to you.
WAIT WHAT IF MARIO JUST LIKE TRANSMUTES THE RINGS, PETS, ITEM BOXES, AND EVERYTHING?!?!??!?! NONE OF THOSE HAVE RESISTANCE TO TRANSMUTATIONThis would be fair, if not for rings providing 6D damage transferal as well as rebirths, pets, and trails, working in tandem with Infinite Magnet to ensure that Sonic NEVER runs out of rings. He even has item boxes to provide him with more rings, and more defensive layers that Mario needs to break through or outlast (shields and invincibillity). Even innately, Sonic can generate a shield tough enough to block attacks that would normally one shot him. He even has Power Cores to make himself up to 8x stronger and tougher. Mario is NOT winning this fight with brute force.
I can't lieWhat does "icl" mean?
Ok. Tho I mean the Emeralds can grant resistance to Transmutation but that doesn't necessarily mean they can't be transmuted.I can't lie
Ok well everything except the Emeralds gets telekinetically thrown away/crushed or transmuted. Then Mario simply stacks his amps and hopefully just K.Os Sonic eventually?I thought the Chaos Energy from the Chaos Emeralds grants the resistance to Transmutation and since the Emeralds are teeming with Chaos Energy they’d also be fine with it
I mean can Mario just telekinetic pluck out everything from Sonic’s hammerspace? Can he just cartoonishly pluck the Tornado from Sonic’s hammerspaceOk well everything except the Emeralds gets telekinetically thrown away/crushed or transmuted. Then Mario simply stacks his amps and hopefully just K.Os Sonic eventually?
If they're in hammerspace then they aren't being used so Mario doesn't have to worry about them.I mean can Mario just telekinetic pluck out everything from Sonic’s hammerspace? Can he just cartoonishly pluck the Tornado from Sonic’s hammerspace
Ok what if Mario transmutes the Chaos Emerald? Super Forms have Transmutation Resistance but not the Emeralds themselves.
Unconventional Resistance to:
Reality Warping & Transmutation (The Chaos Emeralds still worked even when they were altered by an accident of Dr. Eggman's that warped both history and reality, even granting protection to those who had them in their possession)
Man come on...Given that the chaos emeralds are also able to grant resistance to transmutation wouldn't that mean sonic can use them to prevent whatever items he has left from getting transmutated?
They also have restoration as well so can't they just restore any already transmuted items back to their original state of being?
Ok still, it might genuinely be a stalemate then.
What's the point? Sonic will already have at least thousands of rings by then and Mario has no reason to target these things rather than Sonic himself.WAIT WHAT IF MARIO JUST LIKE TRANSMUTES THE RINGS, PETS, ITEM BOXES, AND EVERYTHING?!?!??!?! NONE OF THOSE HAVE RESISTANCE TO TRANSMUTATION
No, he can't. At best, he can use lightning to make Sonic drop many of his items and then pick them up for himself. Telekinesis is a sketchy argument at best though. No one ever used the Power Star for that, which is probably why it's not even on Mario's profile.I mean can Mario just telekinetic pluck out everything from Sonic’s hammerspace? Can he just cartoonishly pluck the Tornado from Sonic’s hammerspace
It's not. As I keep saying, they both have a win con here.Ok still, it might genuinely be a stalemate then.
He does have a reason tho? If it clicks in Mario's head that the Rings are protecting Sonic, logically either removing or circumventing said Rings is the best course of action.What's the point? Sonic will already have at least thousands of rings by then and Mario has no reason to target these things rather than Sonic himself.
:[Telekinesis is a sketchy argument at best though. No one ever used the Power Star for that, which is probably why it's not even on Mario's profile.
What are the win cons?It's not. As I keep saying, they both have a win con here.
Your claim was that he would transmutate Sonic's equipment. Why would he do that instead of targeting Sonic directly?He does have a reason tho? If it clicks in Mario's head that the Rings are protecting Sonic, logically either removing or circumventing said Rings is the best course of action.
Transmutation and Chaos Control BFRWhat are the win cons?
Nothing. Sonic just would just need to be pressed to do it since it's not something he's ever done in canon. We just know he could. Less experienced Chaos Control users have or would have done it without needing to be taught.What's stopping Sonic from just BFR with Chaos Control again?
Well I would assume Sonic would use Chaos Control to do this if he had to, considering that nothing else would work and that he thinks that losing to Mario will result in "dire consequences".Nothing. Sonic just would just need to be pressed to do it since it's not something he's ever done in canon. We just know he could.
And that is why Sonic is being kept at 4-BBut it is another example that super forms don’t need the emeralds physically inside them to maintain the form.
Vote counted!I vote for Sonic FRA, specifically through Chaos Control BFR
Cuz like wouldn't Mario go for incapping rather than straight up killing at first? SBA makes the combatants willing to win, not kill (I think)Your claim was that he would transmutate Sonic's equipment. Why would he do that instead of targeting Sonic directly?
If that's the case, then Mario is just worse off for it because Sonic's win con is already non-lethalCuz like wouldn't Mario go for incapping rather than straight up killing at first? SBA makes the combatants willing to win, not kill (I think)