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[0-0-0] HAIL TO THE KING BABY! - Duke Nukem vs Homelander

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Characters:

Duke Nukem:
  • AP: 0.213 Tons Physically, higher with weapons
  • LS: 8.8 tons

Homelander (Dynamite Entertainment):
  • AP: >0.06103017245 Tons of TNT
  • LS: 320 to 447.7 tons


Arena+Rules
  • The Fight takes places in The Stadium
  • Combatants start 10 meters apart
  • Duke has his full arsenal
  • Both characters are in character
    • Duke will be using all of this
  • Speed is Equalized
Music:

Votes:

  • I'm not going to fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass:
  • I AM DONE BEING PERSECUTED FOR MY STRENGTH. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE THANKING CHRIST THAT I AM WHO AND WHAT I AM BECAUSE YOU NEED ME. YOU NEED ME TO SAVE YOU. YOU DO. I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO POSSIBLY CAN.:
  • Incon
 
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Duke's got a lot of advantages, but the speed difference is too big to overcome here. His only hope here is if Homie's confident enough to just sit there and take a shot from specifically the ice gun, but that's a pretty specific scenario and in any other one Homelander probably just blitzes Duke to death the moment he realizes he's a threat.
 
Duke's got a lot of advantages, but the speed difference is too big to overcome here. His only hope here is if Homie's confident enough to just sit there and take a shot from specifically the ice gun, but that's a pretty specific scenario and in any other one Homelander probably just blitzes Duke to death the moment he realizes he's a threat.
With Homie massive God Complex, that will likely be the case, or he is going to try to bum rush Duke.
 
With Homie massive God Complex, that will likely be the case
I find that unlikely, Duke's got a pretty wide variety of weapons and he needs to know to start with exactly the right one, if he hurts Homelander then he's gonna know Duke's a threat and lock in and kill him.
or he is going to try to bum rush Duke.
Which would be successful because he's way faster.

For the record I'm sure Duke's got better speed feats than subsonic, but they ain't on the profile so
 
Does duke have any resistance to heat? If he doesn't, doesn't homelander just laser straight through him?
He doesn't, but comic's Homelander doesn't start off with laser.
Since he is in character, he is going to monologue and allow Duke to shoot him due to his God Complex. Duke could blow his head off and win or use anything else in his arsenal to reduce Homelander to a non-combatant state. In case Duke doesn't kill him first shot and actually gets Homelander to "lock in", he is just going to bumrush Duke directly while lasering, so it isn't the hardest thing to dodge.
 
He doesn't, but comic's Homelander doesn't start off with laser.
He literally starts using lasers the second he's fighting noir. Uses it against the terrorist pilots. countless times threatens to use it to kill people with them at the smallest inconvenience. He definitely starts with it.
Duke could blow his head off and win or use anything else in his arsenal to reduce Homelander to a non-combatant state.
It's a 3x advantage. That's not even half for a one-shot. He'd survive the hit, notice that actually hurt and immediately charge with eye lasers like he did with Black Noir.
In case Duke doesn't kill him first shot and actually gets Homelander to "lock in", he is just going to bumrush Duke directly while lasering, so it isn't the hardest thing to dodge.
Duke has skill feats of being able to dodge human perception? Because all homelander has to do it stare at Duke to use his eye lasers effectively, which is piss easy for someone who's comparable speed to him.
 
He literally starts using lasers the second he's fighting noir.
He was bloodlusted at Noir for screwing over his life. When he is in character, he doesn't resort to lasers - see his battle with Maeve
Uses it against the terrorist pilots.
Uh no - at least not in the comic books
countless times threatens to use it to kill people with them at the smallest inconvenience. He definitely starts with it.
I think you are thinking about the Tv Series. Comics is a whole different person.

It's a 3x advantage. That's not even half for a one-shot. He'd survive the hit, notice that actually hurt and immediately charge with eye lasers like he did with Black Noir.
He wasn't hurt by Black Noir and then charged the lasers. He was bloodlusted because Noir ruined everything, so that isn't even in character.

Duke has skill feats of being able to dodge human perception? Because all homelander has to do it stare at Duke to use his eye lasers effectively, which is piss easy for someone who's comparable speed to him.
Speed is Equalized. You have to prove Homelander's Lasers are faster than him.
 
He was bloodlusted at Noir for screwing over his life. When he is in character, he doesn't resort to lasers - see his battle with Maeve
"Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences."
Uh no - at least not in the comic books
I got the receipts. (wrong plane, but still)
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I think you are thinking about the Tv Series. Comics is a whole different person.
No, he threatens to laser people all the time in the comics. He threatens to laser Butcher's dog for pissing on his shoe. And we're to expect he won't use his eye lasers when being actually harmed?
He wasn't hurt by Black Noir and then charged the lasers. He was bloodlusted because Noir ruined everything, so that isn't even in character.
"Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences."
Speed is Equalized. You have to prove Homelander's Lasers are faster than him.
The speed of the lasers are irrelevant here, even if they're more than likely faster than himself. They come from his eyes Homelander just has to stare at Duke for them to hit. You are arguing that Duke can dodge Homelander's perception of him so he doesn't look at duke, which is absurd when speed is equalized.
 
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"Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences."
"Is extremely overconfident to the point of believing nothing can harm him and will even allow things to hit him due to that overconfidence."

Also, viewing someone as an enemy who wishes to harm you ≠ viewing someone as a genuine threat. There's no reason for Homie to assume right off the bat that this random chad with guns would be able to hurt him. That's what happens when you go your entire life without anyone being able to challenge you physically.
 
"Is extremely overconfident to the point of believing nothing can harm him and will even allow things to hit him due to that overconfidence."

Also, viewing someone as an enemy who wishes to harm you ≠ viewing someone as a genuine threat. There's no reason for Homie to assume right off the bat that this random chad with guns would be able to hurt him. That's what happens when you go your entire life without anyone being able to physically harm you.
The point is that he's not in a state where he will actively not use his eye lasers like what's being argued. When the gunshot hurts him, he's going to immediately lead with blasting Duke with his eye lasers.
 
The point is that he's not in a state where he will actively not use his eye lasers like what's being argued.
No, the guy said that Homie doesn't START with eye lasers.
When the gunshot hurts him, he's going to immediately lead with blasting Duke with his eye lasers.
So you agree with him. Anyway, which is more likely, Homie hitting him in a vital area with lasers, or Duke blasting him at most 3 times with explosives and stuff like acid and electricity that he doesn't resist? (reminder that John has never had to dodge anything before)
 
No, the guy said that Homie doesn't START with eye lasers.
Which is wrong. He is trigger happy with it just as much as his TV version is.
So you agree with him. Anyway, which is more likely, Homie hitting him in a vital area with lasers, or Duke blasting him at most 3 times with explosives and stuff like acid and electricity that he doesn't resist? (reminder that John has never had to dodge anything before)
Immortality Type 2 lets homelander walk off either of those things things without a resistance and lasers him, which splits him apart.
 
Unless, Duke hits him in the head
Unless you're suggesting a 3x advantage completely obliterates his head, that doesn't change anything.
Unless, Duke dodges. Lasers have travel time
The issue is that the lasers come from his eyes, not the travel time. even if Duke theoretically dodged them, the lasers are still there. Homelander just has to move his eyes/head slightly and the lasers are now hitting him anyways.

It's faster to move your head/eyes 5 inches compared to a whole dodge.
 
Why are we continuously larping Homelander. If Homelander wishes to fight under SBA influence, he isn't gonna start with no monologue. He's gonna bull rush this dude, and LS meta. Or Laser Vision him. We're forgetting this dude is 90% bored of the world. He's arrogant and egotistical and is going to use as less effort to murder this dude. He'd only start trying if hes a threat
 
Why are we continuously larping Homelander. If Homelander wishes to fight under SBA influence, he isn't gonna start with no monologue. He's gonna bull rush this dude, and LS meta. Or Laser Vision him. We're forgetting this dude is 90% bored of the world. He's arrogant and egotistical and is going to use as less effort to murder this dude. He'd only start trying if hes a threat
He has a God complex but this dude is pure evil. He's going to inflict damage to showcase superiority
 
I just don't agree with the notion that the lasers would insta-kill Duke. There's lava pools in Duke 3D and those don't insta-kill you, similarly he can take explosions of various kinds without getting melted, not to mention we don't really have an agreed upon way that heat and durability interact (realistically the former really wouldn't ignore the latter). So I think he's got an easy win here.
 
I just don't agree with the notion that the lasers would insta-kill Duke.
If you don't have the heat resistance to withstand heat-based lasers that can cleave through flesh and whatnot to peopl even stronger than homelander, i see no reason why they wouldn't be treated the same way here. Durability negation page lists heat as a potential way to ignore durability.
There's lava pools in Duke 3D and those don't insta-kill you, similarly he can take explosions of various kinds without getting melted,
I was under the impression he had zero heat resistance feats, considering nothing's listed on his profile but i suppose i'm not surprised his profile is outdated.
 
If you don't have the heat resistance to withstand heat-based lasers that can cleave through flesh and whatnot to peopl even stronger than homelander, i see no reason why they wouldn't be treated the same way here.
Because heat is naturally produced by any kind of impact and at high durability levels you would necessarily be eating a bunch with any attack that can hurt you.
That's a page that hasn't had a serious update since before COVID, and it also lists other things (such as blows to internal organs) that CAN be resisted via durability.
I was under the impression he had zero heat resistance feats, considering nothing's listed on his profile but i suppose i'm not surprised his profile is outdated.
Yeah, I'm just going off knowledge of the one Duke game I played (3D), I'm far from an expert but I wouldn't be surprised if he had better feats than what I listed too, there's like a dozen or so Duke games.
 
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