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Arnold Schwarzenegger Characters Profiles (Part 1: John Matrix)

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I plan to create/revise profiles for some of the movie characters played by Arnold Schwarzenegger: John Matrix (Commando), Jack Slater (Last Action Hero), Harry Tasker (True Lies), Douglas Quaid (Total Recall), John Kimble (Kindergaten Cop), Howard Langston (Jingle All the Way), Julius Benedict (Twins), Dutch (Predator), Conan (Conan The Barbarian/The Destroyer) and T-800 (Terminator Dark Fate Timeline). Each part will concern a single Arnie character.

John Matrix old profile:
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John Matrix

John Matrix is a retired US elite soldier and the main protagonist of the 1985 action cult classic, Commando. Matrix is a devout, loving father, which is why he retired from the military but is willing to do whatever it takes to protect the ones he loves, namely his beloved daughter, Jenny...
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John Matrix new profile:
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Since the old profile doesn't have much, all the changes are obvious and easily seen, I don't think I need to list them.
 
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Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Do you see it now?
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Yeah.
I think Supernatural Luck can just be chalked up to combat skill. It's not unusual in fiction for characters to fight entire armies and emerge unscathed.
Reality Warping seems like a stretch since guns seemingly never running out of ammo is a pretty common trope especially for older action movies like this one.
Not to mention, those two abilities aren't even acknowledged or implied in universe.
Other than that, the additions look good.
 
AThe1412 said:
Not to mention, those two abilities aren't even acknowledged or implied in universe.
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It's fair, but it won't be the first time the site accepts abilities that aren't acknowledged in-universe.
The biggest example of this is the Dead Eye from the Red Dead Redemption games which is accepted as a canon ability (despite the fact that it's never acknowledged lorewise) and gives its users Limited Time Manipulation.
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
It's fair, but it won't be the first time the site accepts abilities that aren't acknowledged in-universe.
The biggest example of this is the Dead Eye from the Red Dead Redemption games which is accepted as a canon ability (despite the fact that it's never acknowledged lorewise) and gives its users Limited Time Manipulation.
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At least they got official guides and stuff saying that you're slowing down time.
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
I plan to create/revise profiles for some of the movie characters played by Arnold Schwarzenegger: John Matrix (Commando), Jack Slater (Last Action Hero), Harry Tasker (True Lies), Douglas Quaid (Total Recall), John Kimble (Kindergaten Cop), Howard Langston (Jingle All the Way), Julius Benedict (Twins), Dutch (Predator), Conan (Conan The Barbarian/The Destroyer) and T-800 (Terminator Dark Fate Timeline). Each part will concern a single Arnie character.

John Matrix old profile:
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John Matrix

John Matrix is a retired US elite soldier and the main protagonist of the 1985 action cult classic, Commando. Matrix is a devout, loving father, which is why he retired from the military but is willing to do whatever it takes to protect the ones he loves, namely his beloved daughter, Jenny...
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John Matrix new profile:
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Ser Hakim Dayne/Sandbox

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Since the old profile doesn't have much, all the changes are obvious and easily seen, I don't think I need to list them.
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A few things

the "charmed a wild doe" thing is probably not really a feat, it's not too difficult to get animals to eventually trust you if you routinely feed them, and for all we know that might've been a semi-domestic one to begin with. Similarly the social reputation/instigating fear bit isn't really charisma-related he's just a one-man army, being scared of him is just logical.

I'd personally remove "trained his daughter in martial arts" since that's not really a great showing of how good he is, but up to you. I'd suggest putting it last in the explanation for the power if you want to keep it though.

Supernatural Luck and Reality Warping are just PIS. That's just how Hollywood action scenes were most of the time back then, they're not canonical mechanics of the setting.

This bit could be added to acrobatics

Rest seems ok.
 
Armorchompy said:
I'd suggest putting it last in the explanation for the power if you want to keep it though.
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Armorchompy said:
This bit could be added to acrobatics
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Done.

Armorchompy said:
Similarly the social reputation/instigating fear bit isn't really charisma-related he's just a one-man army, being scared of him is just logical.
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Social Influencing's types are not all related to charisma tbh, like coercion, deception and social position.
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Social Influencing's types are not all related to charisma tbh, like coercion, deception and social position.
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Ugh, I didn't notice the page got revised to include that, that's pretty dumb. Well, I guess this is fine then, I don't like it but it fits what the page is like RN.
 
Armorchompy said:
Ugh, I didn't notice the page got revised to include that, that's pretty dumb. Well, I guess this is fine then, I don't like it but it fits what the page is like RN.
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Is it necessary to have the opinion of other staff members to apply the changes or is that enough?
 
Yeah, the linked feats for reality warping and supernatural luck are definitely some plot-armour-induced shit. I've seen many street-level protagonists and main characters who even outran bullets just by running, yet they fail to outrun some running child; this just seems to be another one of those similar cases.

The rest of the current sandbox seems fine. Also, I'm not an evaluation staff right now so you need either another thread moderator or administrator approval to get this applied (I'm an admin on joke battles wiki, not vs battles wiki).
 
I applied the changes:
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John Matrix

John Matrix is a retired US elite soldier and the main protagonist of the 1985 action cult classic, Commando. Matrix is a devout, loving father, which is why he retired from the military but is willing to do whatever it takes to protect the ones he loves, namely his beloved daughter, Jenny...
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