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Goku actually stomps Gotenks form by form
BoG went out of its way to tell Goku and Vegeta were #1 and #2 pre ritual.
Vegeta ******** himself the moment he heard Goku lost to Beerus is very telling, not to mention how badly SSJ2 Vegeta outperformed Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, BEFORE the famous...
Isn't there promotional material implying Goten and Trunks are above the Humans by the ToP
This alone would grant them 2-C, let alone Super Hero which actually implies Goten and Trunks to be above pre Ultimate Piccolo who is solidly 2-C anyways.
(Not that I agree w Krillin being 2-C in the...
Wouldn't this go similarly to Early Goku vs Vegeta? I'd give the edge to Manga Goku though bc more experience and IT, PLUS he wouldnt need to over exert himself unlike his.other self who 100% will need Kaioken to keep up and overpower him
Yall can still work around DBS power scaling
Friendly reminder that theres official statement about Goku Black being the strongest non fused character at that arc.
That automatically makes Black and anyone who scales to him like SSR Trunks, Fused Zamasu, Vegito Blue, etc above at the very least...
uuhhhh, so
Why arent ppl like Goku Black, Vegito Blue, or high end characters from GF arc and onwards scaling?
theres no amount of scaling that puts ToP Base Goku above his SSB self from initial arcs (at least not initial ToP to post UIS1 Base Goku which is being discussed here).
Having...
If humans by the ToP scale to 2-C wouldnt both Goten and Trunks scale to? I can recall official media regarding Goten and Trunks as stronger than the humans but didn't make the cut just because they weren't experienced enough.
Even if being a timeline "doesn't mean you can lift one", dude is still a ******* 4D construct ffs his LS would still be immeasurable as it is quantitatively superior to anything 3D including infinite LS.
Unless you wanna argue a inf. LS dude could overpower wallpaper Zamasu.