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I understand. Thanks for clearing it up. Guess if I want Spidy to be a higher tier I better start reading through his Comics looking for Feats to Calc to that level instead of scaling to others.
I think i get it. I guess Spidy can't be scaled to any other heroes/villains unless he first has a calc/feat to support being on the tier of the character he's fighting.
By itself no. If Spider-man really can tangle with the Low-Mid Tiers then it would support the idea that he is above them in strength.
Electro and do what? Break Ironman Armors or one-shot Spidy Villains?
It's possible that fighting Ironman could've been BS. But let's refresh it then. If Any...
I've said before Silver Surfer being there is weird and simply wrong so i just ignore it like it was a mistake.
I don't think Spidy is equal to anyone on the Weight Class list such as Luke, but that he can hang with them. Similar to how The Thing is Weaker than She-Hulk but he's on the same...
The question is who really scales to Spidy. When serious in Ends of the Earth he one-shot Spider-Woman. Superior Spider-man crushed Goblin's arms pretty easily and also knocked out Black Cat without any problem. We've seen what a not holding Back Spidy can do to his usuals. If the others that...
Missed that Calc but the fact that Spidy seems completely unharmed shows that's not his limit.
Ah. So we need the Story context behind these battles before we decided if he scales or not? Luckily the creator of that thread tells us each Comic this happens in. If I find the time maybe i'll go...
I have no problem with Luke Cage also scaling up seeing as he can also fight people like Namor, have a brutal back and forth with Proxima Midnight, K.O a relaxed She-hulk, and is seen to be in the same weight class as Spidey.
You have a point about the Symbiotes, but that's why i'm here. What...
So how does anyone scale to these characters if they're so inconsistent? And the others street heroes wouldn't scale since as i said, Spidy is known for holding back hence multiple scans of him one-shotting at least 5 of his usual villains when he gets serious.
They could be holding back, some...
I know that's not the absolute weakest they can hit, that's why I also said base strength. But i think Spidy should be scaled to these characters instead of a lifting feat he's only done once when he's fought these 6-C characters multiple times.
I agree, the Silver Surfer being in the same weight class as the others is weird and I just ignore that he's there. That's why i say he should scale closer to people like Colossus and Thing or Ironman. (Seems to beat fight Ironman more than the others. I think should be around their level to...
I can't answer the calc question since Spider-man's AP seems to only come from one feat, the Daily Bugle lift, and nothing else. Haven't seen any other Calcs/scaling for his AP/Durbaility There seem to be more Durability/AP feats of Spider-man being closer to Colossus in strength (Consistently...
Not sure how this site feels about links to Comicvine but I think things from the post: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/spider-man-167/respect-the-amazing-spider-man-greatest-feats-comp-1890352/ could be added to Vs Wiki. Spider-man seems to scale higher than what this Wiki has him at. It...
Jugram clearly states a certain level of power is needed to use the Almighty Or else your power would go out of control and steal all the Sternitter powers. This means Jugram had to have been just as strong as full power Base Yhwach since he too can use the Almighty without losing control...