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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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Loki has about more than 300 appearances, so it would take more than a year for me to work on
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Iridikron the Stonescaled
Iridikron the Stonescaled is one of the main antagonists of World of Warcraft: Dragonflight and World of Warcraft: War of the Scaleborn Along with his brethren, he rejected the gift of the titans and turned to the elements instead, becoming an incarnation of the earth itself.[3] His mastery of...
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Thing or iron man would probably be a good match for himAnyone have a decent profile for me to throw him at... mainly that isn't a magic user or someone who otherwise just slaps him with hax.Iridikron the Stonescaled
Iridikron the Stonescaled is one of the main antagonists of World of Warcraft: Dragonflight and World of Warcraft: War of the Scaleborn Along with his brethren, he rejected the gift of the titans and turned to the elements instead, becoming an incarnation of the earth itself.[3] His mastery of...
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I'm not sure you even read these runs, godzilla destroys the marvel universe comic is set in a separate timeline not the current one, so the thor that godzilla defeated isn't the current thor nor does he have the same powers as immortal thor, thor also matched an amped godzilla fine and defeated a base godzilla in thor vs godzilla separate crossover, also mind you using "destroys the universe " storyline as legit is kinda weird cos the writer clearly intends godzilla to beat everyone he faces , its the same as Deadpool kills the marvel universe line of storyline,Mejed seemed to be a very minor elder god, Kemur was killed by the Eternity Mask, Utgard-Loki was not defeated, Toranos was at the brink of death when Thor finished him with a god-blast, and that writer also depicted Thor being defeated by regular Rigellians and Mister Hyde, completely depowered him, and had the Hulk easily defeat him whereas even the Black Panther was able to do much better, and recently Thor was also oneshotted by Godzilla in a deliberately humiliating and degrading manner, made a pro-tyranny speech during Doctor Doom's global takeover, was offhandedly tortured to death by a Celestial and slaughtered by mutants when written by Kieron Gillen, defeated by Terrax and upstaged by Iceman, his Black Winter feat is deliberately being trivialised by the current Storm writer, and so onwards, along with Brian Bendis stating that "Jews shouldn't write Thor", as if Vikings were somehow retroactively Nazis any more than the many other cultures the Nazis completely bastardised, so my impression is definitely that Marvel Comics writers in general consider Thor too politically incorrect to be allowed to exist without being systematically degraded and humiliated.
as for the rest, remember thor was also weakened overtime by the enchantress story manipulation. And as someone else stated , he is as powerful as he needs to be , he is self aware about the infect of storyl manipulation weakening him or strengthening him depending on the circumstance
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That's what was claimed at least.I thought that the Godzilla comicbook was set in regular continuity some time in the past.
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I thought that the Godzilla comicbook was set in regular continuity some time in the past.
Yes , according to the writer its set in 616 but the timeline is unsure, based on what I've read its probably set in 70s marvel, the Godzilla was supposed to be the marvel Godzilla too. Which just further confuse what should be taken as canon, cos everything about that comic doesn't affect the rest of continuity, let's say it's canon to that era only lol
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There was also that time when Nick Spencer inexplicably made Thor a follower of the Hydra version of Captain America, if I remember correctly, and Donny Cates portrayed Thor as an asshole, a powerful asshole, but still an asshole. Quite a lot of writers seem to morally distort and/or humiliate Thor whenever they get a chance.
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Al Ewing is goated for making thor leave the Avengers, it's clear ,anytime he comes to earth he has to become lesser. I wish they could invent a kind of reason for this ,instead of just plot writing . He can't remain fully Godly while being an Avenger.There was also that time when Nick Spencer inexplicably made Thor a follower of the Hydra version of Captain America, if I remember correctly, and Donny Cates portrayed Thor as an asshole, a powerful asshole, but still an asshole. Quite a lot of writers seem to morally distort and/or humiliate Thor whenever they get a chance.
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Al Ewing has characterised Thor extremely well, and is a great storyteller and worldbuilder who I mostly agree with ideologically, so I obviously also mostly really like what he is doing, even though Ryan North messed things up for Ewing by suddenly extremely prominently suddenly completely distorting Thor to support Doctor Doom's dictatorship of the Earth.
However, I am not really a fan of that he largely initiated the Mary Suggs-ism for Storm that that Murewa Ayodele built upon to go completely berzerk with later. Oh well, at least she is not a berzerk power-mad egomaniacal nihilistic amoral absolutely arrogant god-complex Villain Suggs like Thanos, or which many "cultivation" stories seem conceptually and ideologically based on.
However, I am not really a fan of that he largely initiated the Mary Suggs-ism for Storm that that Murewa Ayodele built upon to go completely berzerk with later. Oh well, at least she is not a berzerk power-mad egomaniacal nihilistic amoral absolutely arrogant god-complex Villain Suggs like Thanos, or which many "cultivation" stories seem conceptually and ideologically based on.
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I wasn't aware we were allowed to change tiers without CRT's now.
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I was thinking about Thing but uh... He's made of rock, at least skin-wise. Iridikron is just gonna pop him like a grape. Also which Iron Man there's like 5 of them
@The_Impress Come on, we both know we don't just do that. Negative sense or no you still have to make a CRT to change stats, one I'm pretty sure you'd have at least some support on considering how the last thread played out.
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I share Impress' views on the Scythia thing. She's 5-B, either scale Scarlet Witch there or ignore the feat lol
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I will say that Scythia was implied to have not been going all out due to the fact that she knew that Darcy was lowkey in the right, hence why I found it better to scale her to her actual feats against SW.
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I don't like going off of mere implication when it's this kind of problem.
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Well, it seems to be a minor and sensible change at least.
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Ant, pal, "minor" is for things like, changing a line in an intelligence section or something, not retiering a profile lmfaoWell, it seems to be a minor and sensible change at least.
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I also think it makes sense, but I've gotten on people's cases for less than changing a tier. The difference between baseline 9-C and baseline 9-B+ is like 35000x, not exactly the kind of gap you say "Oh not a problem".Well, it was a change from 9-B to 9-C, and it made sense.
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Reaper is right, why the massive double standard?Well, it seems to be a minor and sensible change at least.
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I don't think it warrants punishment, I just don't want this to set a bad precedent and double standard.I am just saying that I don't think that it seems punishable and that we should let Impress explain herself. Maybe the changes were accepted beforehand.
IMO the best scaling regardless is her knocking out a mutated US Agent with a punch to the jaw that breaks multiple teeth. That seems like enough for her to scale to him.
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For thing yeah that’s a good point, as for iron man any of the 5-B armors would probably be fine
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On a separate note, after looking over a bunch of things regarding the Demattis split and Demattis profile justifications (while marvelling at how poorly the Demattis split was actually applied), a lot of the stuff mentioned seems...suspect, or at least overstated (the Oblivion wank is definitely something else, lol), and a lot of it seems consistent with non-Demattis stuff as Ultima explained on the current Marvel cosmology page, to say nothing of all the times Demattis issues are connected to canon (even as late as 2026)
Honestly, the only thing I really don't see as part of the main cosmology is the Divine Creator. That's basically it.
Honestly, the only thing I really don't see as part of the main cosmology is the Divine Creator. That's basically it.
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Yeah Wanda's profile is in really bad shape. Honestly just needs a ground-up remake. She needs several new keys. Like one for original, one for when she first got witch training, one for House of M, post-House of M, and then Living Darkhold.
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I'm working on one, though I'm debating whether or not to remove House of M entirely since she never uses it for fighting.
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Since I also want to add P&A from her being a Nexus Being, do you have any ideas for how to handle stuff related to SW's innate physiology that she's always had but it's only been stated in later (aka modern) eras?
Like how she and her actions literally cannot be undone from history due to the nature of her powers?
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I think it should only be present for her modern keys. Like she technically always had the same innate power potential, but until the 2000s didn't reach the full potential. Before then, even after training with Agatha for the first time, she was only using a sliver of her power, so I don't think we should assume that she had the abilities she didn't directly demonstrate.
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I’m mostly in agreement with obbergobb, however I do think that it’s a case by case basis depending on the ability and it should be noted on the profile that she technically always did have those powers she just couldn’t really use them, if that makes sense
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I don't mind if we temporarily revert Impress' edits until we get more staff agreement than just from me, but we don't know for certain whether or not it was already accepted yet.
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I don't mind waiting until she responds.I don't mind if we temporarily revert Impress' edits until we get more staff agreement than just from me, but we don't know for certain whether or not it was already accepted yet.
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I would like to hear your thoughts regarding how much evidence would it be necessary to add Marvel Magic to a character, I have seen multiple character's powers implied to be magic but in their main runs they never acknowledge it as magic. For example, Dagger's daggers there were some implications of it being magic such as opposing the power of demons and the darkforce, and there was once where she was part of a spell with Dr. Strange, but her power was never actually stated to be magic, that is until very recently a comic from Spider-Man which she doesn't even actually shows up, her daggers are stated to be a magic spell. I'm reluctant with adding magic to characters who are not considered magic users "officially"., so I wanna know at what point does it became "consistent".
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If it's stated to be magic then I guess it'd be "limited Magic", only applicable to those daggers
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I'm late to the party on this one, but I think True Adamantium bodies should definitely scale to peak Worthy Thor. They're consistently beyond Thor's capacity to harm at all, and it takes Thor explicitly going all-out to harm Secondary Adamantium Ultrons.
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