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crap can I request this to be changed to versus threads lol
 
Unless julius doesnt resist force choke i think he takes it insane hax dif
 
Unless julius doesnt resist force choke i think he takes it insane hax dif
Vader does not really use Force Choke in battles.

What hax exactly? Vader's lightsaber has insane heat (3000 °C, I think?)
 
Vader does not really use Force Choke in battles.

What hax exactly? Vader's lightsaber has insane heat (3000 °C, I think?)
Soul manip life manip possible death manip (still useable) law manip (couldnt tell if this was limited) but i mean if vader’s lught saber can just heat diff him that’d also be funny
 
Vader does not really use Force Choke in battles.
He uses it. But it's not as advantageous to do that against Force users, since they can block with telekinesis or use their own telekinesis to counterattack. Plus, a bit of PIS

The best example I can give is in Jedi Fallen Order. The first thing he did against Cal was use the Force Choke.
 
How likely is he gonna use it before Julius can land a hit on him

Julius could also just amp himself to a blitz level, while debuffing darth vader then fire off Al clauzaria which is 24 times faster than either of them
 
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How likely is he gonna use it before Julius can land a hit on him, or does he resist soul/death hax
Either he perceives him as fodder and kills him immediately with TK

Or once Julius actually pushes him to the brink. From what I recall, in the comics, he doesn't even use TK against the Grevious knock-off until the very end. Vader also loves dueling, so he would probably entertain Julius in a sword fight before he even thinks of using TK (aside from tossing a bunch of rocks at him)

Vader has precog, btw, he would probably be alerted about what happens if he gets hit by soul/death hax and immediately try to finish the fight once he realizes the threat Julius poses.
 
Either he perceives him as fodder and kills him immediately with TK

Or once Julius actually pushes him to the brink. From what I recall, in the comics, he doesn't even use TK against the Grevious knock-off until the very end. Vader also loves dueling, so he would probably entertain Julius in a sword fight before he even thinks of using TK (aside from tossing a bunch of rocks at him)

Vader has precog, btw, he would probably be alerted about what happens if he gets hit by soul/death hax and immediately try to finish the fight once he realizes the threat Julius poses.
The precog seems more along the lines of "vision of the future" instead of future sight, are there any feats of smth that can prove he will know about his one shot capabilities?

And even if that is the case, does he have a way to subdue Julius before he fires off Al clauzariea? Julius has insane pain resistance and if he gets TK'd he would absolutely try to kill vader before he kills him, and with the 24x speed gap that duel will definetely go in his favour especially with the speed amp he gets
 
How likely is he gonna use it before Julius can land a hit on him

Julius could also just amp himself to a blitz level, while debuffing darth vader then fire off Al clauzaria which is 24 times faster than either of them
Honestly, it's SBA, meaning they start 4 kilometers apart, and Julius has superhuman travel speed with tens of meters of range (only combat speed is equalized). Vader has the distance advantage and has TK and other thought-based tactics.

Vader also has speed amps and slow-motion perception (which makes a difference for Vader since TK is thought-based), so it doesn't make a difference. Blasters have just been accepted as REL+/SoL in SW (like, right now, during the conversation there was the last vote), and the guys are going to be upgraded to Rel+. Vader and inferior guys dodge shots from dozens to hundred of blasters, so a single SoL attack from Julius won't make a difference.

The precog seems more along the lines of "vision of the future" instead of future sight, are there any feats of smth that can prove he will know about his one shot capabilities?
In addition to precognition, Vader possesses telepathy and memory reading abilities. Furthermore, danger sensors, so he will know that taking a hit is dangerous.

And even if that is the case, does he have a way to subdue Julius before he fires off Al clauzariea? Julius has insane pain resistance and if he gets TK'd he would absolutely try to kill vader before he kills him, and with the 24x speed gap that duel will definetely go in his favour especially with the speed amp he gets
Vader can simply absorb/reflect Al Clauzeria.

If Julius is caught by TK, he will simply be completely paralyzed/crushed, so unless he has something thought-based, it won't do any good.
 
The precog seems more along the lines of "vision of the future" instead of future sight, are there any feats of smth that can prove he will know about his one shot capabilities?
I believe @Phsccarvalho has some novel scans for that. But Vader is indeed able to see a few seconds ahead in a fight.


And even if that is the case, does he have a way to subdue Julius before he fires off Al clauzariea? Julius has insane pain resistance and if he gets TK'd he would absolutely try to kill vader before he kills him, and with the 24x speed gap that duel will definetely go in his favour especially with the speed amp he gets
Vader has force barrier to block it off
 
Maybe it would be better to use another force user or even Grevious if Vader is too unfair

Would Obi-Wan or Grevious be good replacements?
 
Yall are we sliming every single person in the Anastasia camp what is this
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The speed is equalized, meaning both have relativistic combat speed, more than enough for Vader to defend himself against a SoL attack (considering that Vader's relativistic speed is due to the scale of defending against a SoL attack).
No, Julius's attack speed is impossible to avoid after it is fired even for opponents far far far faster than Julius. Still, the force is too strong of an ability so I'm thinking of voting Vader anyway. Julius could try to kill Vader with his magic while he's being choked out but with Vader's precog he would just block it I imagine.
 
No, Julius's attack speed is impossible to avoid after it is fired even for opponents far far far faster than Julius.
Because Julius is Sub-Relativistic and Vader is Relativistic.

With equalized speed, the combat speed of the slower character is equalized to that of the faster one; in this case, both Vader and Julius have Relativistic combat speed. But other speeds, such as travel or attack speed, do not change. Therefore, even if Julius goes from sub-relativistic to relativistic, Al Clauzeria is still lightspeed.

Vader can block Al Clauzeria because Vader can block attacks at the speed of light (hence the relativistic speed), and Al Clauzeria is only classified as lightspeed.

This isn't even an opinion; Vader can objectively block the attack based on the speeds listed in the profiles and the rules of equalized speed. And it's going to be even worse with the current Star Wars CRT, which made Vader Relativistic+. So the gap will be even smaller.
 
This isn't how speed equalization works at all. Not even a little bit.

"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc."
 
Julius does have thought based partial paralysis.
This won't be useful when Vader's TK is also thought-based, so if Julius pulls that out, Vader is immediately doing a neck snap.

I'm thinking of voting Vader anyway. Julius could try to kill Vader with his magic while he's being choked out but with Vader's precog he would just block it I imagine.
Is this a vote or is this too much of a stomp?


Im gonna replace Vader with this guy if this is too unfair
 
How would this be any different?
The fact that Obi-Wan does not use force choke at all. This allows Julius to hit him with soul/death hax without worrying about getting his neck snapped. Obi-Wan still has the wincon of dominating in close quarters and also mind hax, so it can go either way
 
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