Ordem Paranormal General Discussion

[Nonynho]

DDM didn't attack them because that was not his desire. In revelando OSNF Cellbit says that the DDM would only strike someone if they got in the way of another person he was trying to age, and when he explained what damge he would deal, it was more than enough to one shot everyone there.

The 9-A value is for the anomiatic, who is a decently powerful creature, more powerful than any creature Liz fought I believe. The degolificada was said by cellbit to become stronger each encarnation, the one in Iniciação wasn't as strong as the one in Desconjuração, which wasn't as strong as the one in the book

The DDM argument made sense, but i really don't think the Anomiatic is really that much above any incarnation of the Degolificada to justify the agents being 9-B only.

 

[Nonynho]

IMO this or something alike should be added to our Other Side Physiology page

• Marked (The Marks are mysterious paranormal entities of Fear that choose individuals to connect with. These individuals, named Markeds, are the most dangerous and powerful beings in the Paranormal Order universe, capable of connecting with Fear and summoning it directly into Reality.)
  • Passive Reality Warping, Fate Manipulation and Resistance to it (Not Combat-Applicable- Marked individuals are free from the chains that form the rules of Reality and weave destiny [Deconjuration - Episode 19 (watch on YouTube at 4h02m22s])
  • Immortality (Types 1, 7 and 8), Possibly Cosmic Awareness and Multiple Selves (Types 1 and 2) (Not Combat-Applicable- Markeds are able to receive information from other characters that passed away that had the same Mark and from the players responsible for the Mark through Transcending. There were also many cases where two individuals with the same Mark were alive at the same time)

 

[Redite250]

The DDM argument made sense, but i really don't think the Anomiatic is really that much above any incarnation of the Degolificada to justify the agents being 9-B only.

I'd say there's no reason to assume the Degolificada from Iniciação is as strong as the Anomiatico, since she's practically featless and the Anomiatico is a creature that, according to the rulebook, would give 4 NEX 60% agents a fair fight. The only Degolificada that has any feats is the one in the book but no one's ever fought her. I'd say the agents are 9-A by the point where they get to the Mansão Endiabrada, since they fight creatures in there that are veeery close to the Anomiatico like Viajante and Espreitador. And then in Calamidade they probably reach High 8-C due to fighting Anfitrião and Kian.

 

[Redite250]

IMO this or something alike should be added to our Other Side Physiology page

That's a good idea

 

[Nonynho]

I'd say there's no reason to assume the Degolificada from Iniciação is as strong as the Anomiatico, since she's practically featless and the Anomiatico is a creature that, according to the rulebook, would give 4 NEX 60% agents a fair fight. The only Degolificada that has any feats is the one in the book but no one's ever fought her. I'd say the agents are 9-A by the point where they get to the Mansão Endiabrada, since they fight creatures in there that are veeery close to the Anomiatico like Viajante and Espreitador. And then in Calamidade they probably reach High 8-C due to fighting Anfitrião and Kian.

Don't have enough to keep this debate, Imma go with this vision

With that said, Iniciação guys will be "At least 9-B" and OSNF will be "At least 9-B possibly 9-A"

 

[Redite250]

Actually I just remembered that they fought the Carniçal, which is super strong. He one shot everyone he attacked though, but you could say that they are 9-A with guns since they could harm him.

 

[Redite250]

I did a sandbox for the Otherside Physiology CRT, tell me what you think

This Content Revision aims to add the following page, which will then be added as a power for every single profile. The Creature Physiology will be added only to creatures, and Will and Fortitude apply to every single characters in different levels, which would be their Will/Fortitude value.

To explain in simple terms, Ordem Paranormal is an RPG, and the combat is usually resolved with saving throws. Some enemies or players have abilities that require saving throws. There are three main saving throw skills, Reflexes (essentially if you succeed a Reflexes throw you just dodge the attack), Fortitude and Will. Fortitude and Will are the interesting ones. High values allow you to resist stronger and stronger effects. A regular person has 0 in both stats, usually, which means that, if you remove randomness from the equation with additional rules from the rulebook, they can only resist effects up to a DT of 10 (A DT is the value you must reach to resist the effect, by throwing dice and then summing the saving throw skill. If you roll for example a 10, and have +5 will, you will pass an effect with a DT of 15, but fail in a DT 16). This essentially means that every single point above 1 in Fortitude of Will allows you to resist a power a singular level higher. The strongest effect in the Rulebook has a DT of 45, which would require a +35 in will or fortitude to resist, meaning 35 layers. Altough players can have a DT that far surpasses this for their own rituals with some insane combos.

I believe the creature phisiology page is self explanatory, all creatures should have the skills in there, and it's just mixed with this one for convenience in one page, Otherside Physiology.

The Page in Question

 

[Nonynho]

I did a sandbox for the Otherside Physiology CRT, tell me what you think

Very well written, think it explains pretty well
I just gotta point out that the Marked stuff i brought is not there (and i think it's justifiable to put on the page)

 

[Redite250]

Very well written, think it explains pretty well
I just gotta point out that the Marked stuff i brought is not there (and i think it's justifiable to put on the page)

Alright, I added that. Should I post it now?

 

[Nonynho]

Alright, I added that. Should I post it now?

Shouldn't we separate Creature Physiology from Marked?
Like, the way it's on rn is quite like only creatures can be Markeds
Let's just get them into separate tabbers and gg

and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe get it into OP, cuz whenever the mod reads "Reality Warping" and similars i'm quite sure they'll be asking questions

 

[Redite250]

This Content Revision aims to add the following page, which will then be added as a power for every single profile. The Creature Physiology will be added only to creatures, and Will and Fortitude apply to every single characters in different levels, which would be their Will/Fortitude value.

To explain in simple terms, Ordem Paranormal is an RPG, and the combat is usually resolved with saving throws. Some enemies or players have abilities that require saving throws. There are three main saving throw skills, Reflexes (essentially if you succeed a Reflexes throw you just dodge the attack), Fortitude and Will. Fortitude and Will are the interesting ones. High values allow you to resist stronger and stronger effects. A regular person has 0 in both stats, usually, which means that, if you remove randomness from the equation with additional rules from the rulebook, they can only resist effects up to a DT of 10 (A DT is the value you must reach to resist the effect, by throwing dice and then summing the saving throw skill. If you roll for example a 10, and have +5 will, you will pass an effect with a DT of 15, but fail in a DT 16). This essentially means that every single point above 1 in Fortitude of Will allows you to resist a power a singular level higher. The strongest effect in the Rulebook has a DT of 45, which would require a +35 in will or fortitude to resist, meaning 35 layers. Altough players can have a DT that far surpasses this for their own rituals with some insane combos.

I believe the creature phisiology page is self explanatory, all creatures should have the skills in there, and it's just mixed with this one for convenience in one page, Otherside Physiology. The Marked page aims to add to all the characters who are Marked (all player characters) the abilities they have. Being marked essentially just gives you the ability to go against fate, they are not bound by the chains that govern reality and thus their actions can't be controled by destiny.

The Page in Question

Alright. I added a brief explanation of what being marked is. To be honest, it's not powerful at all, the biggest thing it does is give them resistance to fate manipulation.

 

[Nonynho]

Alright. I added a brief explanation of what being marked is. To be honest, it's not powerful at all, the biggest thing it does is give them resistance to fate manipulation.

Yes

I think we may ask if this is enough to put the resistance as combat applicable. If the mods say that it is, we rephrase a little and at least this gives something lol

 

[Redite250]

Yes

I think we may ask if this is enough to put the resistance as combat applicable. If the mods say that it is, we rephrase a little and at least this gives something lol

The resistance is definitely combat applicable. I mean, they just resist fate, it's as simple as that, so manipulating fate wouldn't affect them.

 

[Nonynho]

The resistance is definitely combat applicable. I mean, they just resist fate, it's as simple as that, so manipulating fate wouldn't affect them.

may i ask you to change it, putting the resistance more clearly as combat-applicable, rewriting it one last time before posting?

 

[Redite250]

may i ask you to change it, putting the resistance more clearly as combat-applicable, rewriting it one last time before posting?

Yep, it's done

 

[Nonynho]

Yep, it's done

will be bumping the LS thread and you post this one :>

 

[Nonynho]

Liz' profile is now only lacking categories and images

 

[Redite250]

Liz' profile is now only lacking categories and images

She should have fire manipulation and explosion manipulation with gummy bears I think

 

[Nonynho]

She should have fire manipulation and explosion manipulation with gummy bears I think

Was pulling her arsenal from the wiki

But which gummy bears are we talking about? Cant remember it

 

[Redite250]

Was pulling her arsenal from the wiki

But which gummy bears are we talking about? Cant remember it

In the HQ Iniciação (which is primary canon now, the other HQs aren't) she uses gummy bears to burn the Degolificada with a chemical reaction. This isn't standard equipment but it's something she can do lol.

 

[Nonynho]

In the HQ Iniciação (which is primary canon now, the other HQs aren't) she uses gummy bears to burn the Degolificada with a chemical reaction. This isn't standard equipment but it's something she can do lol.

OH YEAH, i remember that now, she uses the same reaction that the boy did
Aight, adding it

 

[Redite250]

OH YEAH, i remember that now, she uses the same reaction that the boy did
Aight, adding it

I don't know if you have Sobrevivendo ao Horror, but if you do, check the Espectro Inesquecido page. That is Liz's spectre, and it has some abilities that Liz had during her life, some of them are useful like healing.

 

[Nonynho]

I don't know if you have Sobrevivendo ao Horror, but if you do, check the Espectro Inesquecido page. That is Liz's spectre, and it has some abilities that Liz had during her life, some of them are useful like healing.

Don't have it on me rn
I couldn't even pull the work to get Thiago's profile done yet, last days were fast but today is being chaotic af, maybe this week if stuff gets calmer

 

[Nonynho]

ophub

vsbattles.fandom.com

Made this page for the progress to be more easily trackable, finally made the Thiago profile
Gotta find Sobrevivendo Ao Horror's PDF to put that stuff into Liz' profile

 

[Nonynho]

ngl i have been feeling quite guilty those days because despite wanting it very badly i couldn't put myself through doing the profiles. I apologize for the progress being slow, but i really hope to be able to keep it going and finish as soon as i can, at least the protagonists

 

[Redite250]

ngl i have been feeling quite guilty those days because despite wanting it very badly i couldn't put myself through doing the profiles. I apologize for the progress being slow, but i really hope to be able to keep it going and finish as soon as i can, at least the protagonists

Don't worry dude, there's no rush or anything

 

[Redite250]

Now that Hexatombe is finished, I'm hyped to make profiles for its characters, I should probably roll out the CRT soon.

 

[Nonynho]

Now that Hexatombe is finished, I'm hyped to make profiles for its characters, I should probably roll out the CRT soon.

i'm also very hyped, not working on them cuz i'm doing a trillion things per minute
but if i were not going by chronological order, i'd be doing them, specially Cristino's lol

 

[Nonynho]

heyyyy

life's been quite intense, but i finally did a profile again!
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Nonynho/cesinha

Please tell me what y'all think

 

[Redite250]

heyyyy

life's been quite intense, but i finally did a profile again!
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Nonynho/cesinha

Please tell me what y'all think

Pretty good, all I can think it's missing is Fire Manipulation with those red shards from Santo Berço, and in Desconjuração the effects of his rituals and the blood-cursed bullets he had. To clarify, I mean that the bullets should give some ability, since I can see they're in equipment

 

[Nonynho]

Pretty good, all I can think it's missing is Fire Manipulation with those red shards from Santo Berço

tysm; Will put them as Optional Equip

in Desconjuração the effects of his rituals and the blood-cursed bullets he had. To clarify, I mean that the bullets should give some ability, since I can see they're in equipment

Which rituals?
Completely forgor but the cursed bullets would give him Duraneg afaik, well remembered

Edit: what about the quotes? couldn't remember another cool one for OSNF but Deconjuration has a billion cool ones

 

[Redite250]

Which rituals?
Completely forgor but the cursed bullets would give him Duraneg afaik, well remembered

Edit: what about the quotes? couldn't remember another cool one for OSNF but Deconjuration has a billion cool ones

Acacia would be some sort of Energy Manipulation I think? It's called Dissipate Spirits, so Non-Physical Interaction and some abillity that indicates it deals more damage to spirits. Cineraria would be Smoke/Fog Manipulation and Statistics Amplification for his rituals. Dendobrium would be perception manipulation.

His quote would probably be "Today... I'm not Cesar, I'm not Kaiser... I'm the Angel of the Night."
Edit: just realized you already put some good quotes in there

 

[Nonynho]

His quote would probably be "Today... I'm not Cesar, I'm not Kaiser... I'm the Angel of the Night."
Edit: just realized you already put some good quotes in there

noticed that he's got different quotes for his burned and regular images in Deconjuration? Also, if ya got some quotes from OSNF i'd thank you

Acacia would be some sort of Energy Manipulation I think? It's called Dissipate Spirits, so Non-Physical Interaction and some abillity that indicates it deals more damage to spirits. Cineraria would be Smoke/Fog Manipulation and Statistics Amplification for his rituals. Dendobrium would be perception manipulation.

Thought all of this would be covered by just putting the Occultism page there, but ok, i'mma specify

Also, what do we do about Fortitude and Will from Deconjuration and prior*?

 

[Nonynho]

all changes should have been applied

 

[Nonynho]

Got the time to rewatch OSNF and i think we gotta make a profile for Hoteleiro (bro's killing at least 1 Succ per night)


and i also think we should use the brazillian names for stuff, like people do for Monica verse and Kamaitachi's ass songs

 

[Redite250]

Got the time to rewatch OSNF and i think we gotta make a profile for Hoteleiro (bro's killing at least 1 Succ per night)


and i also think we should use the brazillian names for stuff, like people do for Monica verse and Kamaitachi's ass songs

We already do, I think! And sure, Hoteleiro could use a profile.
I've been sort of anxious with a lot of real life stuff lately which is why I didn't have the time to mess with the verse here, but when things settle down I'll help.

 

[Nonynho]

updates!
Cris' profile's done for a while and Liz's now has the Espectro Inesquecido stuff, since i've finally read Sobrevivendo Ao Horror

 

[Redite250]

updates!
Cris' profile's done for a while and Liz's now has the Espectro Inesquecido stuff, since i've finally read Sobrevivendo Ao Horror

Nice. I see you've been keeping the verse alive

By the way, I think we can start the CRT to add otherside phisiology + will and fortitude to the characters

 

[Nonynho]

Nice. I see you've been keeping the verse alive

By the way, I think we can start the CRT to add otherside phisiology + will and fortitude to the characters

PLEASE

working the profiles with the accepted stuff instead of doing a f*** ton of blogs to later add them is easier

 

[Nonynho]

Nice. I see you've been keeping the verse alive

All because of your great work