Looney Tunes CRT

[Thanganimator]

This is just some additions.

Animation Tools:​

• Plot Manipulation & Fate Manipulation (both 1 layer); Animation Tools can manipulate the storyline and the fate of characters even though they have shown resistance to it. (Resistance has already been mentioned in Toon Physiology.)

• Transmutation 1 layer; Animation Tools can transmutate Bugs Bunny and Yakko and they can't return to normal even though they shown resistance to it. (Resistance to Transmutation has also been mentioned in Toon Physiology.)

• Suggested additions to Existance Erasures such as: (5D Space–Time, History, Plot; Animation Tools can remove cosmology, including The Film Reel.)

• Ressurction (Low-Godly; Narrative: Simply put, animators can erase, redraw, and revive animated characters whenever they want by using the Animation Tools.) (I got inspiration for this from Woody Woodpecker.)

• Adding Ressurction (Low-Godly; History) from Tank1418 that I accidentally deleted because I thought it was rejected (it was added earlier and DarkDragon saw it too, so yeah): This is because the animator has complete freedom to do anything and is not bound by the timeline or storyline in the cartoon, they can revive a character whenever they want without needing to consider whether the timeline or storyline has already been erased.

Toon Physiology: additions describe about Toonliness is act as their power and personality.

• Upgrade Resistance to Power Nullification/Absorption/Sealing to Immunity (Yoyo Dodo has lost Toonliness but he still can regenerate from the liquid).

Opinions from everyone	Everyone:
Agree:	@Tank1418 @Thermor @Arkansalter2 @DarkDragonMedeus (Staff; seems neutral regarding Regeneration (Low-Godly; History) @Imaginym (Staff; same with DarkDragon), @Lort15 (neutral with layers stuff), @Ultimate-Rex1
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Tank1418]

Agree

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I need to rest, may look at this later.

 

[Thanganimator]

I need to rest, may look at this later.

It seems you're genuinely interested in the verse that now only has two supporters. Thank you.

 

[Thanganimator]

Agree

Could you post this CRT on other profile page that interested in verse?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Unsure if Regeneration qualifies if unless they can do so without influence from Animators. And speaking of which, I might have forgotten the exact statements for how Low 1-C is the concluded tier(s) because iirc, it's more so a Low 2-C minimum if there is no R>F qualifications for 1-A and what not.

But aside from the regeneration question, which neutral until I get more clarification. The rest of the proposals look good.

 

[Tank1418]

I might have forgotten the exact statements for how Low 1-C is the concluded tier(s) because iirc, it's more so a Low 2-C minimum if there is no R>F qualifications for 1-A and what not.

Bro, you can see the reasoning in this thread.

• Regeneration (High-Godly: History [Overtime and non-combat]; Bugs Bunny can returns in later episodes after being removed from the timeline, although the exact time of this is unclear. These later episodes are viewed alongside the canon on the Looney Tunes page.)

Could you remove this part ? I’ll create a CRT about it later.

Unsure if Regeneration qualifies if unless they can do so without influence from Animators.

Actually, they can do that, and it has been proven many times. However, I’ll make a separate CRT about this.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Could you remove this part ? I’ll create a CRT about it later.

The OP could do that and/or provide better examples when they get the chance, but sure.

Bro, you can see the reasoning in this thread.

Oh yeah, I remember now. So nvm that then.

 

[Thermor]

Yeah sure.

 

[Thanganimator]

Could you remove this part ? I’ll create a CRT about it later.

Sure

 

[Thanganimator]

Unsure if Regeneration qualifies if unless they can do so without influence from Animators. And speaking of which, I might have forgotten the exact statements for how Low 1-C is the concluded tier(s) because iirc, it's more so a Low 2-C minimum if there is no R>F qualifications for 1-A and what not.

But aside from the regeneration question, which neutral until I get more clarification. The rest of the proposals look good.

So you agree with the remaining abilities except for Ressurction (High-Godly; History) from Animation Tools and Regeneration (High-Godly; History [Overtime and non-combat])?

 

[Lort15]

This is just some additions.

Animation Tools:​

• Plot Manipulation & Fate Manipulation (both 1 layer); Animation Tools can manipulate the storyline and the fate of characters even though they have shown resistance to it. (Resistance has already been mentioned in Toon Physiology.)

Plot manip seems blatant but i can't see the scan for fate so no comment also no comment on layer too cuz i'm not sure (but from the given resistances to said abilities the layer should be fine ig)

• Transmutation 1 layer; Animation Tools can transmutate Bugs Bunny and Yakko and they can't return to normal even though they shown resistance to it. (Resistance to Transmutation has also been mentioned in Toon Physiology.)

seems reasonable

• Suggested additions to Existance Erasures such as: (5D Space–Time, History, Plot; Animation Tools can remove cosmology, including The Film Reel, which is also plot.)

seems fine it should be listed under plot manip ngl this is literally plot erasure if not listed

• Ressurction (High-Godly; Narrative: Simply put, animators can erase, redraw, and revive animated characters whenever they want by using the Animation Tools.) (I got inspiration for this from Woody Woodpecker.)

i'm not sure about this we can still hear his voice tho unless i'm missing some content, so neutral

Toon Physiology: additions describe about Toonliness is act as their power and personality.

• Upgrade Resistance to Power Nullification/Absorption/Sealing to Immunity (Yoyo Dodo has lost Toonliness but he still can regenerate from the liquid).

idk the content again also no audio, neutral. Overall seems good tho, good job.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Makes sense. Agree.

 

[Thanganimator]

Plot manip seems blatant but i can't see the scan for fate so no comment also no comment on layer too cuz i'm not sure (but from the given resistances to said abilities the layer should be fine ig)

The scan on Fate Manipulation is simply Bugs Bunny using a computer to edit the storyline found on the page, and as far as we know, Fate Manipulation could still be a subset of Plot Manipulation, so yeah. (Also it has already been accepted on the Animation Tools page.)

i'm not sure about this we can still hear his voice tho unless i'm missing some content, so neutral

Basically, we're not discussing that part, but rather how Animator can revive them, or as Woody Woodpecker CRT explained it: "Basically, the animator responsible for animating and reanimating the cartoon episodes (the narrative), uses the same method to draw and redesign Woody and revive him." So it should also work with Looney Tunes.

idk the content again also no audio, neutral. Overall seems good tho, good job.

Context: Basically, in the episode Tiny Toons Adventure - Washingtoon, a woman tried to use a machine to suck out "Toonliness" (which looks like a soul but isn't), the substance that powers them. After the machine sucked Yoyo's Toonliness, he was still able to regenerate from the liquid.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

• Suggested additions to Existance Erasures such as: (5D Space–Time, History, Plot; Animation Tools can remove cosmology, including The Film Reel, which is also plot.)

Remove 5-D, since it's working at plot level.

• Ressurction (High-Godly; Narrative: Simply put, animators can erase, redraw, and revive animated characters whenever they want by using the Animation Tools.) (I got inspiration for this from Woody Woodpecker.)

It can't be High-Godly, unless soul and mind is also was revive

 

[Thanganimator]

Remove 5-D, since it's working at plot level.

I'm not entirely sure, because The Film Reel is both a 5D structure and a narrative structure.

It can't be High-Godly, unless soul and mind is also was revive

Why? As far as I know, Bugs Bunny's data was erased and then recovered, which is why it reached High-Godly Information Type 2, so there's no need to recover its soul and mind (although Toon Physiology mentioned they can recover the soul, but never mind).

 

[Imaginym]

The OP tentatively seems reasonable, & I trust the judgement of DarkDragonMedeus, so I agree with what they agree with so far.

Although clarification from them does seem to be being awaited regarding matters in post #11 of this thread:

Unsure if Regeneration qualifies if unless they can do so without influence from Animators. And speaking of which, I might have forgotten the exact statements for how Low 1-C is the concluded tier(s) because iirc, it's more so a Low 2-C minimum if there is no R>F qualifications for 1-A and what not.

But aside from the regeneration question, which neutral until I get more clarification. The rest of the proposals look good.

So you agree with the remaining abilities except for Ressurction (High-Godly; History) from Animation Tools and Regeneration (High-Godly; History [Overtime and non-combat])?

There also seems to be some contention on a matter between Ultimate-Rex1 & Thanganimator, the OP of this thread. That may need to be resolved or postposted for a future CRT.

 

[Thanganimator]

The OP tentatively seems reasonable, & I trust the judgement of DarkDragonMedeus, so I agree with what they agree with so far.

Although clarification from them does seem to be being awaited regarding matters in post #11 of this thread:

So you agree with the remaining abilities except for Ressurction (High-Godly; History) from Animation Tools and Regeneration (High-Godly; History [Overtime and non-combat])?

There also seems to be some contention on a matter between Ultimate-Rex1 & Thanganimator, the OP of this thread. That may need to be resolved or postposted for a future CRT.

So, do you currently agree with DarkDragon?

 

[Thanganimator]

The OP could do that and/or provide better examples when they get the chance, but sure.

Oh yeah, I remember now. So nvm that then.

So you agree with the remaining abilities except for Ressurction (High-Godly; History) from Animation Tools and Regeneration (High-Godly; History [Overtime and non-combat])?

Yo can you answer me?

 

[Thanganimator]

Bugs Bunny is 1A. Anyways, happy April Fool's Day.

 

[Thanganimator]

The OP tentatively seems reasonable, & I trust the judgement of DarkDragonMedeus, so I agree with what they agree with so far.

Although clarification from them does seem to be being awaited regarding matters in post #11 of this thread:

So you agree with the remaining abilities except for Ressurction (High-Godly; History) from Animation Tools and Regeneration (High-Godly; History [Overtime and non-combat])?

There also seems to be some contention on a matter between Ultimate-Rex1 & Thanganimator, the OP of this thread. That may need to be resolved or postposted for a future CRT.

Can you tag other staffs?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

I'm not entirely sure, because The Film Reel is both a 5D structure and a narrative structure.

Still, plot is metaphysical. Abilities like conceptual or informational ones cannot be higher-dimensional, since they are unbound by dimensions, as they are abstract.

Why? As far as I know, Bugs Bunny's data was erased and then recovered, which is why it reached High-Godly Information Type 2, so there's no need to recover its soul and mind (although Toon Physiology mentioned they can recover the soul, but never mind).

It states on the page that regeneration from the erasure of the body, mind, and soul must be shown before trying to argue for High-Godly:

High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one other fundamental aspect of a character's existence. Such an aspect could be their place in the narrative, their history, their information (Type 2), their concept, or something else along those lines. For any aspect to qualify, destruction of that aspect must cause erasure of the character in some form, and evidence must exist that the character cannot exist without that fundamental aspect existing as well. In addition, it must not be something that regenerating the body, mind, or soul would ordinarily restore. As such, take care when evaluating Type 3 concepts, and aspects that are not sufficiently expanded upon to make a judgment will not qualify.

Agnaa already addressed it here.

Regeneration for Plot, Soul, and Information would still count but as Low-Godly, since mind wasn't erased

 

[Thanganimator]

Still, plot is metaphysical. Abilities like conceptual or informational ones cannot be higher-dimensional, since they are unbound by dimensions, as they are abstract.

Then ok

It states on the page that regeneration from the erasure of the body, mind, and soul must be shown before trying to argue for High-Godly:


Agnaa already addressed it here.

Regeneration for Plot, Soul, and Information would still count but as Low-Godly, since mind wasn't erased

You should know that Bugs Bunny's High-Godly has been accepted a long time ago, right?

 

[Tank1418]

Then ok

I think feats obtained from the film reel realm shouldn’t be used as “Suggested additions to Existence Erasure (Plot),” as this would contradict the site’s rules. Instead, EE should be treated as a subset of Plot Manipulation, since the animator has demonstrated this multiple times through plot manipulation.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

You should know that Bugs Bunny's High-Godly has been accepted a long time ago, right?

• Resurrection (The Animator's pencil can revive toons.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Animation_Tools_(Looney_Tunes)#cite_note-:3-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a>)

It never says High-Godly?

 

[Tank1418]

• Resurrection (The Animator's pencil can revive toons.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Animation_Tools_(Looney_Tunes)#cite_note-:3-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a>)

It never says High-Godly?

this

• Regeneration (High-Godly [Informational {Type 2}]; In Cartoon Physics, if the recipient gets reduced to ash or char, they can simply reconstruct themselves and appear "virtually undamaged".<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Toon_Physiology_(Looney_Tunes)#cite_note-Cartoon_Physics-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> They are even able to recover their complete physical forms after they have been erased or their spirit or information is destroyed. If they are unable to regenerate conventionally after a full erasure, they can regain their forms and youth from the memories and laughter of others.)

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

not that this

• Regeneration (High-Godly [Informational {Type 2}]; In Cartoon Physics, if the recipient gets reduced to ash or char, they can simply reconstruct themselves and appear "virtually undamaged".<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Toon_Physiology_(Looney_Tunes)#cite_note-Cartoon_Physics-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> They are even able to recover their complete physical forms after they have been erased or their spirit or information is destroyed. If they are unable to regenerate conventionally after a full erasure, they can regain their forms and youth from the memories and laughter of others.)

I meant High-Godly Ressurction

Remove 5-D, since it's working at plot level.

It can't be High-Godly, unless soul and mind is also was revive

 

[Tank1418]

It can't be High-Godly, unless soul and mind is also was revive

Dude, You should already know that Existence Erasure removes the soul as well, and it’s already been shown in the OP.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Dude, You should already know that Existence Erasure removes the soul as well, and it’s already been shown in the OP.

Revive soul isn't enough, need also mind part

 

[Tank1418]

Revive soul isn't enough, need also mind part

I think those feats are enough to show that the animator tools can revive the soul and mind, since Existence Erasure normally removes both. In this case, the animator tool was able to bring Daffy back exactly as he was (able to interact and still retaining Toonliness).

 

[Thanganimator]

So removing the 5D part should be fine.

 

[Thanganimator]

Revive soul isn't enough, need also mind part

Beside, what do you think about the Ressurance (History) section?

 

[Tank1418]

So removing the 5D part should be fine.

No , I mean you should remove the reasoning that uses the film reel realm to justify EE (Plot), because it contradicts the site’s rules and would imply that the film reel realm isn't a 5D structure.

 

[Thanganimator]

No , I mean you should remove the reasoning that uses the film reel realm to justify EE (Plot), because it contradicts the site’s rules and would imply that the film reel realm isn't a 5D structure.

Ok

 

[Thanganimator]

No , I mean you should remove the reasoning that uses the film reel realm to justify EE (Plot), because it contradicts the site’s rules and would imply that the film reel realm isn't a 5D structure.

But didn't the flame say that the Film Reel was the entire "episode"?

 

[Thanganimator]

No , I mean you should remove the reasoning that uses the film reel realm to justify EE (Plot), because it contradicts the site’s rules and would imply that the film reel realm isn't a 5D structure.

So what argument can we use to say that it completely erases the "Plot"?

 

[Tank1418]

But didn't the flame say that the Film Reel was the entire "episode"?

Because their statements are used to upgrade the cosmology, and it has also been implied multiple times that past episodes are treated as the past.

 

[Tank1418]

So what argument can we use to say that it completely erases the "Plot"?

I think that’s not necessary But doing it this way would probably be better.

• Plot Manipulation, Data Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Reality Warping and Subjective Reality
  • Information Manipulation (Type 2)
  • Text Manipulation and Fate Manipulation
  • add EE

Make it a subset of the animator tool’s plot manipulation.

 

[Thanganimator]

I think that’s not necessary But doing it this way would probably be better.

• Plot Manipulation, Data Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Reality Warping and Subjective Reality
  • Information Manipulation (Type 2)
  • Text Manipulation and Fate Manipulation
  • add EE

Make it a subset of the animator tool’s plot manipulation.

Okay

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

I think those feats are enough to show that the animator tools can revive the soul and mind, since Existence Erasure normally removes both. In this case, the animator tool was able to bring Daffy back exactly as he was (able to interact and still retaining Toonliness).

According to this wiki, you need at least proof, since Existence Erasure isn't normally erase soul and mind