Cry of fear crt - i forgot stuff in the last ctr bruh (1 vote needed)

[LandonTheGuy]

This thread will be used just to add some statistic that are either unknown or not so good for what the character is capable of:


1 - Both Simon and Dr.Purnel should get "At least Athletic, possibly Peak Human" stamina.
-Both of them have shown the capability of surviving injuries like gunshots , axe hits and such and still be capable to fight afterwards.

-The entirety of cry of fear is Simon going accross stockolm without food, water and sleep while fighting monsters and solving puzzles for at least 8 hours (considering by the time you reach the first zone it's morning).

-Simon can remain conscius and ignore his spine getting broken by a car.

Simon afterwards the incindent is bound to a weelchair.



2 - Some monsters like the Sawrunner should get "possibly Peak Human" ls.
-Weaker monsters have shown the capability of trowing Simon off balance.



3 - Subsonic verse upgrade.
-Sawrunner speed - 36,29 m/s (subsonic) (ECCEPTED)

Will be put as "Likely Subsonic reaction speed"

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Agree to everything although that bottom one needs to get accepted first

 

[Adasdadadsada]

Agree to all of them except for the 4th one, I do not see what is justifying for the specific timeframe.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Agree to everything although that bottom one needs to get accepted first

Agree to all of them except for the 4th one, I do not see what is justifying for the specific timeframe.

i used that timeframe cuz the video editor i used had some limitations at the time, i'll provably try another time with a different software like movavi vid but i'm fairly sure it should be below 3 milliseconds.


if that was your problem

 

[LandonTheGuy]

added a fifth point

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Agree to all of them except for the 4th one, I do not see what is justifying for the specific timeframe.

added a more precise timeframe

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Agree to all of them except for the 4th one, I do not see what is justifying for the specific timeframe.

Agree to everything although that bottom one needs to get accepted first

the first point was removed after finding out that simon can survive a hit from thf

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

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[LandonTheGuy]

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

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lol

 

[LandonTheGuy]

ok all calcs (ik it's only one) have been accepted

 

[LandonTheGuy]

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

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[LandonTheGuy]

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[Mr. Bambu]

you know its "crt" and not "ctr", right?

Disagree with superhuman stamina, taking a wound and fighting isn't superhuman. Stamina impressiveness is based on how much damage it actually does to them. If they continued fighting while impaled and missing limbs or something similar, then we'd be talking. Right now they have Athletic for being injured and fighting, that seems correct.

For LS... possibly? I'd accept a possibly rating. He still weighs as much as a normal guy, he was obviously caught off guard there, but... possibly. Sure.

You want to apply this to everybody? I think it looks pretty obvious not everyone is moving at that speed, though.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

you know its "crt" and not "ctr", right?

Bruh, mb cuh

Disagree with superhuman stamina, taking a wound and fighting isn't superhuman. Stamina impressiveness is based on how much damage it actually does to them. If they continued fighting while impaled and missing limbs or something similar, then we'd be talking. Right now they have Athletic for being injured and fighting, that seems correct.

I did this crt with a bit of an hurry and forgot to put some stuff into it, so let me explain:

So, Cry of Fear cronologically starts in an unspecified time at night (altho i'm of the idea that it should be around midnight based on this) till late morning (Judging by the light in Kirkville, aka the last stage of the game) so Simon was out for at the very least 8+ hours without sleep, water or food fighting non-stop against people who were shooting him, stabbing him, etc... without his performance decreacing.

So on my opinion Superhuman should be a realistic rating.

Or at the very least Peak human possibly Superhuman.

For LS... possibly? I'd accept a possibly rating. He still weighs as much as a normal guy, he was obviously caught off guard there, but... possibly. Sure.

Eh, fine by me

You want to apply this to everybody? I think it looks pretty obvious not everyone is moving at that speed, though.

Ok so, the sawrunner pretty much gets consistently outrunned by simon in about 3/4 times in game, and also can get killed by Simon in game (it's really difficult but you can menage to do that, as it's not invincible and can still be damaged).

So i propose (based on the curret profile for simon) Peak Human Possibly Subsonic travel speed, with Subsonic combat and reaction speed.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I did this crt with a bit of an hurry and forgot to put some stuff into it, so let me explain:

So, Cry of Fear cronologically starts in an unspecified time at night (altho i'm of the idea that it should be around midnight based on this) till late morning (Judging by the light in Kirkville, aka the last stage of the game) so Simon was out for at the very least 8+ hours without sleep, water or food fighting non-stop against people who were shooting him, stabbing him, etc... without his performance decreacing.

So on my opinion Superhuman should be a realistic rating.

Or at the very least Peak human possibly Superhuman.

I might go so far as to call myself Below Average Human, and I have personally done the 8+ hours past my bedtime without water or food thing, before, so like. That just isn't superhuman. He's listed as Athletic, I think it's fine.

Ok so, the sawrunner pretty much gets consistently outrunned by simon in about 3/4 times in game, and also can get killed by Simon in game (it's really difficult but you can menage to do that, as it's not invincible and can still be damaged).

So i propose (based on the curret profile for simon) Peak Human Possibly Subsonic travel speed, with Subsonic combat and reaction speed.

I don't understand. You're saying it mostly gets outrun but the link you're using suggests it is extremely fast and is practically invincible (not actually invincible, mind you, just really hard to kill).

 

[LandonTheGuy]

I might go so far as to call myself Below Average Human, and I have personally done the 8+ hours past my bedtime without water or food thing, before, so like. That just isn't superhuman. He's listed as Athletic, I think it's fine.

Mr.Bambu, does your night routine go like:

• 0:00 am - Get ran over by a car.
• 0:30 am - Get attacked by your local crackhead.
• 0:45 am - Assist a suicide scene.
• 1:00 am - Get stabbet by another crackhead.
• 1:10 am - Assist to an homicide.
• 1:15 am - Fight the chainsaw man.
• 1:30 am - Assist to suicide again, then trow up.
• 2:00 am - Run away from the brother of the chainsaw man.
• 2:30 am - Your best friend kills himself and then you fight... whatever that is.
• 3:15 am - almost get ran over by a train.
• 3:20 am - Do that again.
• 3:45 am - Whatever tf it's happening here.
• 4:20 am - Take a concussion after u take a train to go back home because they apparently have put something in the water (said train was also hijacked, and u had to fight monster who splitted acid).
• 5:15 am - Get shot (not too much noteworthy as you passed the last 5 hours getting shot and stabbbed in between of the events listed, you still got other 3 to go where you will in fact get shot and strabbed).

The following hours are won't bee too much noteworthy as you will just continue to get stabbed, shot (there are common enemies who do that, so it's not a thing that happens one time as i've shown in the thread clip).

Look, i get that simon did not got no arm torn off or something like that (altho he survives a car crash that breaks his spine and makes him cripple), but do you think the average trained boxer is going to endure a 8+ hours long match? (Fun fact: the longest boxing match was about 7 hours and 15 minutes, whitch it's way above what i expected, but still simon does bare minimum one hour more than a literal boxing champion)

Can we at least go for something like Peak human possibly Superhuman?

I don't understand. You're saying it mostly gets outrun but the link you're using suggests it is extremely fast and is practically invincible

On the left part of the page you can find all the times the sawrunner has chased simon.

This is a vid of simon outrunning the sawrunner.

(not actually invincible, mind you, just really hard to kill).

I don't expect you too be extreamly handy with the verse, so i wanted to point out that Simon can kill the sawrunner (and therefore react to him).

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Mr.Bambu, does your night routine go like:

• 0:00 am - Get ran over by a car.
• 0:30 am - Get attacked by your local crackhead.
• 0:45 am - Assist a suicide scene.
• 1:00 am - Get stabbet by another crackhead.
• 1:10 am - Assist to an homicide.
• 1:15 am - Fight the chainsaw man.
• 1:30 am - Assist to suicide again, then trow up.
• 2:00 am - Run away from the brother of the chainsaw man.
• 2:30 am - Your best friend kills himself and then you fight... whatever that is.
• 3:15 am - almost get ran over by a train.
• 3:20 am - Do that again.
• 3:45 am - Whatever tf it's happening here.
• 4:20 am - Take a concussion after u take a train to go back home because they apparently have put something in the water (said train was also hijacked, and u had to fight monster who splitted acid).
• 5:15 am - Get shot (not too much noteworthy as you passed the last 5 hours getting shot and stabbbed in between of the events listed, you still got other 3 to go where you will in fact get shot and strabbed).

yeah

but also, this guy is 9-A

so most of these aren't even registering. this is the distinction. Omni-Man doesn't get his stamina because he gets shot 250,000 times, because the bullets don't matter. also a few of these just straight up aren't relevant to scaling stamina at all-- "almost got run over by a train" cool?

On the left part of the page you can find all the times the sawrunner has chased simon.

This is a vid of simon outrunning the sawrunner.

But not because both are moving at the same time. The Sawrunner stops when he attacks, you can see as much at 0:17. He is constantly ceasing, and then easily catching up again when he starts to move again.

I don't expect you too be extreamly handy with the verse, so i wanted to point out that Simon can kill the sawrunner (and therefore react to him).

No, I'm aware, that's why I said "just extremely hard to kill".

 

[LandonTheGuy]

yeah

but also, this guy is 9-A

so most of these aren't even registering. this is the distinction. Omni-Man doesn't get his stamina because he gets shot 250,000 times, because the bullets don't matter.

Ok, but there's a core difference between the 2 cases.

Omniman most of the time is way above his opponent and he's therefore bulletproof, Simon fought monsters that were on his level, that were capable of both harming him and kill him.

So one doesn't suffer no damage for his immense durability compared to his opponents while the other has to fight people who are comparable to his stats and can actually kill him.

(Omniman is still no p****, but i hope you can see my reasoning)

also a few of these just straight up aren't relevant to scaling stamina at all-- "almost got run over by a train" cool?

That was more to point out that Simon provably had a more creazy all-nighter than you usually do.

(cannot be sure tho).

But not because both are moving at the same time. The Sawrunner stops when he attacks, you can see as much at 0:17. He is constantly ceasing, and then easily catching up again when he starts to move again.

alright, we can give him Subsonic scaling to Simon for reaction speed at least? he's still able to percive him and react to him

No, I'm aware, that's why I said "just extremely hard to kill".

Oh, ok.

Just thought you were nitpicking the fact that i specified that.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

listen man

I don't like whataboutisms, but I will point out other cases with significantly better feats of stamina, that should give us an idea of what the wiki does/does not accept as Superhuman.

Miles Upshur is routinely mutilated during one, very long, exposure to the Horrors. Athletic.

Ethan Winters loses limbs (among other gruesome wounds) and continues going. Superhuman.

Kyle Crane endures more or less the same physical damages (if not worse) as Simon, and also spends the whole game doing high-energy parkour. Athletic.

I would not call what has been presented as surpassing or even equaling feats of other similar characters who are rated as Athletic. So I stick to Athletic in my judgement. I think the rating is fine.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

listen man

I don't like whataboutisms, but I will point out other cases with significantly better feats of stamina, that should give us an idea of what the wiki does/does not accept as Superhuman.

Miles Upshur is routinely mutilated during one, very long, exposure to the Horrors. Athletic.

Ethan Winters loses limbs (among other gruesome wounds) and continues going. Superhuman.

Kyle Crane endures more or less the same physical damages (if not worse) as Simon, and also spends the whole game doing high-energy parkour. Athletic.

I would not call what has been presented as surpassing or even equaling feats of other similar characters who are rated as Athletic. So I stick to Athletic in my judgement. I think the rating is fine.

Alright alright fine.

The stuff we agreed so far if i'm correct are:

• Athletic human stamina.
• Likely Subsonic reaction speed for the verse (the calc applies to the ts only to the Sawrunner).
• And possibly Peak Human for the monsters and the sawrunner.

Is that correct?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Alright alright fine.

The stuff we agreed so far if i'm correct are:

• Athletic human stamina.
• Subsonic reaction speed for the verse (the calc applies to the ts only to the Sawrunner).
• And possibly Peak Human for the monsters and the sawrunner.

Is that correct?

I'll sign off on "likely Subsonic" reaction speed for Simon + whoever scales to him. Perceiving a person alone isn't really grounds for matching their speed for reactions, it is the ability to react to them, but that mostly depends on the player here.

Otherwise, yeah, this is what I agree to.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Otherwise, yeah, this is what I agree to.

Alright ty.

I'll wait for the next vote by a mod and this stuff should be good to go.

Also unrelated note, you should play cry of fear sometime if u like horror shooters, it's free on steam.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

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[LandonTheGuy]

I'll sign off on "likely Subsonic" reaction speed for Simon + whoever scales to him. Perceiving a person alone isn't really grounds for matching their speed for reactions, it is the ability to react to them, but that mostly depends on the player here.

Otherwise, yeah, this is what I agree to.

I know you signed off some time ago, but i gotta ask, does breaking your spine and still be conscius and not screaming in pain counts as an higher stamina than Athletic?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Screaming in pain is one thing. What else does he do afterward? Can I see a video?

 

[JPTheGamer]

I haven't played this game in a while, but I'm in agreement with Bambu on most of this. That being said...

Screaming in pain is one thing. What else does he do afterward? Can I see a video?

Could you bring in more staff for this CRT if needed, please?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Screaming in pain is one thing. What else does he do afterward? Can I see a video?

yes, if you may give me a moment

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Screaming in pain is one thing. What else does he do afterward? Can I see a video?

here, he looks pretty pissed about it, and also low key wants to kill the guy (fairly)

 

[LandonTheGuy]

he's just there powerless and mad at the guy as her really can't do much about the situation

 

[Mr. Bambu]

here, he looks pretty pissed about it, and also low key wants to kill the guy (fairly)

Was his spine explicitly broken or was he just pinned to the wall by the car?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Was his spine explicitly broken or was he just pinned to the wall by the car?

oh yes, he's disable After wards, it's heavly supported by the other endings where's he's endicapped by the waist down.

You can check in the same video.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Give me a timestamp?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Give me a timestamp?

sorry, just came back home.

Pretty much at the start of the vid he says he's miserable in that weelchair and you can see him being in one himself.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

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