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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Base Vox should scale too, considering he tagged Emily who flew to Alastor, saved him and then barely reacted to the beam in the time between it being fired and it landing.
Emily is faster than the beam, but she still needed to save Alastor
 
lute isnt even really past wall level
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We treat their "invulnerability" as just high durability and they can harm each other, sooo
That...what? no, they are being matched by the cannibals and they very much have invulnerability, otherwise that doesnt make any sense, they can only be harmed via angelic sources, their bodies are angelic, obviously they can hurt eachother
 
That...what? no, they are being matched by the cannibals and they very much have invulnerability, otherwise that doesnt make any sense, they can only be harmed via angelic sources, their bodies are angelic, obviously they can hurt eachother
You can't be invulnerable (Have the hax I mean) and be done in by falling rubble.

Angelic Steel also just seems like really strong steel too rather than some dura neg stuff.
 
You can't be invulnerable (Have the hax I mean) and be done in by falling rubble.
her not having the lifting isnt a debunk, and tearing her arm off was caused by her (an angel), the rock just kept it in place, or just PiS
Angelic Steel also just seems like really strong steel too rather than some dura neg stuff.
it lets them hurt angels, IDC how strong it is, being strong doesnt let you bypass immensely higher dura without something else

Things get WAY more complicated if we remove angelic resistance, its a constantly mentioned thing, I think the writing consistency is just ruining the scaling
 
How does that correlate to my argument that FP Alastor and comparable scale blitz above regular people?
They're faster, yes..

But I'm wondering, how does a bladed weapon shown to go through things like a razor to paper throw someone back five meters, with the pose they were coincidentally in looking like an attempt to jump back?
 
Im so confused, can someone please tell me what sinners, exorcists, and overlords scale to for speed and AP dura? i thought i knew but new things are buggin my bean
For AP and Dura sinners like Angel, Cherri and Pentious would upscale from I.M.P via Cherri one-shotting a Robo-Fizz in season 2.

Exorcists and Overlords would scale/upscale from that.

Then there's the whole mess about the Hear my Hope feat.

For speed, everyone either upscales from subsonic-supersonic from I.M.P being bullet timers or they all scale to FTL via the beam for reasons we're discussing right now.

Some also get Supersonic+ travel speed from Al running away from Shok.wav.
 
They're faster, yes..

But I'm wondering, how does a bladed weapon shown to go through things like a razor to paper throw someone back five meters, with the pose they were coincidentally in looking like an attempt to jump back?
The wound was fairly deep as we see in Season 2. Besides, it doesn’t matter how much close was Alastor do dodging, he still couldn’t, which is the core premise of reaction speed. Before that, again, Alastor was casually dodging all point-blank attempts to tag him.
 
The wound was fairly deep as we see in Season 2. Besides, it doesn’t matter how much close was Alastor do dodging, he still couldn’t, which is the core premise of reaction speed. Before that, again, Alastor was casually dodging all point-blank attempts to tag him.
Which is why I directly said they were faster, Orange. The difference just isn't a blitz.
 
Which is why I directly said they were faster, Orange. The difference just isn't a blitz.
Speed Blitz is the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them.
Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed.
This is textbook speed blitz, just not a perception one but merely a reaction blitz.
 
This is textbook speed blitz, just not a perception one but merely a reaction blitz.
Except Alastor DID react, if he didn't, he would have died and Season 2 would have ended a lot differently. He just didn't completely dodge it.
 
He dodged so well that he got a scar deep enough for Vox to put his claw into it, makes sense.
Since when slightly moving backwards is enough to not be blitzed? There is virtually no narrow speed blitz in fiction by that logic. You also keep ignoring how incredibly well he was dodging everything before, for some reason.
 
He dodged so well that he got a scar deep enough for Vox to put his claw into it, makes sense.
Since when slightly moving backwards is enough to not be blitzed? There is virtually no narrow speed blitz in fiction by that logic.
He moved enough to throw his hips back, throw his legs forward, and get his chest forward just enough to not ******* die when caught off-guard. He wasn't blitzed, he was just outsped. It's the difference between << and <<<. There's still a major speed gap.
You also keep ignoring how incredibly well he was dodging everything before, for some reason.
Since you clearly can't read anything you don't disagree with, let me do something...
Which is why I directly said they were faster, Orange.
 
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My notifications didn't activate in this thread and we're still beefing over whether or not overlords are 5-B
Skimming through/not reading the giant text walls, it seems that, at best, the only other person other than lucifer who'd scale to 5-B would be adam/charlie's trident
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My notifications didn't activate in this thread and we're still beefing over whether or not overlords are 5-B
Skimming through/not reading the giant text walls, it seems that, at best, the only other person other than lucifer who'd scale to 5-B would be adam/charlie's trident
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FP Alastor too
I think FP Charlie just fully scales
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Bumlie needs to activate her weird ahh red hand to fully scale physically, otherwise she was pretty much low diffed
 
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