Yixuan vs The Pathfinder (Deepwoken) (U.A. Sports Festival Final Event, but it's an 8-A tournament: Round 8) (0-0-7) (Grace)

[Delusionaltx2]

she has to place a talisman on you to induce her powernull, going off the instance we see of it. she has been shown capable of remotely controlling her talisman though, so i'm not sure if she'd need to physically go out of her way to reach out and put it onto the pathfinder if she wanted to use it

Hmm I'm not sure weirher or not she would be able to do this if both of them are exchanging attacks.

Actually since she has the LS advantage she's probably going to be ragdolling then so their more likely to focus on dodging which I feel is gonna make things harder for her

her resistance to fear hax should just be what's on the ether corruption page,

Yeah...she isn't resisting this, based on profiles her resistance would only help her against the shivering stage and then after that it's gonna come down to her own endurance and willpower

but yeah, i don't think she'd be able to fully resist the effects of insanity, especially the later stages. i think she could probably get by up until the hidden faces phase, and anything after that would probably render her too off the deep end to fight. i'm not sure how fast pathfinder could get her there though, so at that point it sort of just becomes a race against time to beat them before she goes too insane

Apparently with the talent "shared misery" they can do this by just landing an attack so if we're assuming their gonna be landing hits with SOH in the early stages of the fight I could see them with an advantage.

Considering the fact that both of these guys seem even on alot of fronts I'm kinda doubting if she'd be able to incapacitate them in time especially considering the fact that john deepwoken can handle impalement from the great sword and still keep fighting.

I might just vote for John but I dont wanna be hasty here. I'm not sure if this question was answered but what was her pressure points potency looking like again? I think pressure points incap backed with an LS advantage could even the playing field.

 

[Sooshirohl]

No, ether on Deepwoken in verse is everywhere it can be used to even forge on that is based on a gem that "oozes with ether". They can also regenerate Ether on the air, attacking and using critical attacks as well as tempo bar increases ether regen as long as hes fighting her. As well as outfits straight up increases your ether regen.

ok cool, that's good to know. neither should really need to worry about running out of ether or anything like that then, considering both can utilize it from their surrounding environments and both can just straight up steal/absorb it from each other

Hmm I'm not sure weirher or not she would be able to do this if both of them are exchanging attacks.

Actually since she has the LS advantage she's probably going to be ragdolling then so their more likely to focus on dodging which I feel is gonna make things harder for her

i mean, she could straight up just wrangle pathfinder and force it onto them with her superior LS if necessary. but again, she can also control and use her talismans from ranged, so she doesn't need to be up close and personal to stick it onto them

Yeah...she isn't resisting this, based on profiles her resistance would only help her against the shivering stage and then after that it's gonna come down to her own endurance and willpower

saturation loss and blurring would hinder her, but i think she'd be able to get by with her enhanced senses to compensate. panicking might make her trip up more while attacking/defending, but i think she'd at least be able to keep fighting through this. everything past this she's kind of just screwed against though

I might just vote for John but I dont wanna be hasty here. I'm not sure if this question was answered but what was her pressure points potency looking like again? I think pressure points incap backed with an LS advantage could even the playing field.

yixuan doesn't really have any implications of utilizing pressure points in her own attacks/lore, but one of her disciples does mention usage of pressure points in the yunkui fighting style, which is what yixuan utilizes. yixuan is yinhu's master, she taught him everything he knows in regards to martial arts, so you can kinda just insinuate that she should have knowledge of it as well. take it as you will though

 

[Adasdadadsada]

yixuan doesn't really have any implications of utilizing pressure points in her own attacks/lore, but one of her disciples does mention usage of pressure points in the yunkui fighting style, which is what yixuan utilizes. yixuan is yinhu's master, she taught him everything he knows in regards to martial arts, so you can kinda just insinuate that she should have knowledge of it as well. take it as you will though

Gonna be honest but pain most likely isn't going to incap the pathfinder. They can fight normally despite having all of this stabbing them. Hell, one of ironsings moves is making metal spikes bloom out of your body.

Also, can't she just amp her speed whenever she dodges an attack to instantly win? If that's not the case the pathfinder has options. They could summon this to partially prevent her from using magic (takes away ether if the opposition uses mantras). Though I still need to know more about ZZZ's energy.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I mean, she could straight up just wrangle pathfinder and force it onto them with her superior LS if necessary.

Regarding this I'm pretty sure she would have to actually grab them first and clones, risky moves, and potential danmak kinda makes that difficult

but again, she can also control and use her talismans from ranged, so she doesn't need to be up close and personal to stick it onto them

What are her ranged talisman attacks looking like? I feel like john can just use coral sphere to destroy them all

saturation loss and blurring would hinder her, but i think she'd be able to get by with her enhanced senses to compensate.

Fair

panicking might make her trip up more while attacking/defending, but i think she'd at least be able to keep fighting through this. everything past this she's kind of just screwed against though

It should be noted that the effects seem to extend to it the attacks taking away her sanity while giving it to them based on the scan and how it's worded on the profile so tanking more attacks will lead to losing more sanity so that's a massive nono

Ofc @AthelChan is free to correct me if I'm wrong on this

yixuan doesn't really have any implications of utilizing pressure points in her own attacks/lore, but one of her disciples does mention usage of pressure points in the yunkui fighting style, which is what yixuan utilizes. yixuan is yinhu's master, she taught him everything he knows in regards to martial arts, so you can kinda just insinuate that she should have knowledge of it as well. take it as you will though

Yikes, the whole gimmick with pressure points in fiction is that you're striking weak points within an opponents body to achieve various effects, if we don't know what these effects are then I dont see this being very usable

Is there anything telling us what happens when her disciples hit the enemy with this?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

.Also, can't she just amp her speed whenever she dodges an attack to instantly win?

Risky moves achieves a similar effect + they have their own speed amps and debuffs

 

[Sooshirohl]

Also, can't she just amp her speed whenever she dodges an attack to instantly win? If that's not the case the pathfinder has options. They could summon this to partially prevent her from using magic (takes away ether if the opposition uses mantras). Though I still need to know more about ZZZ's energy.

vital view's amp only last a few seconds. i'd imagine yixuan would mainly be using it defensively to avoid attacks, so i don't think she'd be able to use every instance of it to counterattack/try to ring pathfinder out

Also, can't she just amp her speed whenever she dodges an attack to instantly win? If that's not the case the pathfinder has options. They could summon this to partially prevent her from using magic (takes away ether if the opposition uses mantras). Though I still need to know more about ZZZ's energy.

already went into detail about ZZZ's ether in an earlier comment but if it only takes away ether rather than nullifying it completely it shouldn't affect yixuan too much, she uses ether from the surrounding environment in her attacks so she can't really run out of it + she can also absorb ether from pathfinder's attacks if needed

Regarding this I'm pretty sure she would have to actually grab them first and clones, risky moves, and potential danmak kinda makes that difficult

fair

What are her ranged talisman attacks looking like? I feel like john can just use coral sphere to destroy them all

she can kinda just summon a bunch with her various attacks. destroying them all would work though, although yixuan doesn't seem to have a limit on how many she can make so she could just keep spamming them

It should be noted that the effects seem to extend to it the attacks taking away her sanity while giving it to them based on the scan and how it's worded on the profile so tanking more attacks will lead to losing more sanity so that's a massive nono

that makes sense. obviously i don't expect her to be facetanking attacks especially if she picks up on the fact that the PF's attacks are messing with her mind, but i do think if it takes time to build up to the hidden faces phase and beyond she won't just immediately be rendered unable to fight due to the insanity

Yikes, the whole gimmick with pressure points in fiction is that you're striking weak points within an opponents body to achieve various effects, if we don't know what these effects are then I dont see this being very usable

Is there anything telling us what happens when her disciples hit the enemy with this?

i guess maybe you can attribute the pressure point effects to assault, since that's yinhu's element attribute. assault just momentarily stuns an enemy when enough damage is accumulated. seems kind of like a stretch though tbh, so personally i wouldn't really go arguing that yixuan could utilize pressure points against PF

also probably worth noting that yixuan also has massive AOE attacks that PF needs to watch out for

 

[Delusionaltx2]

she can kinda just summon a bunch with her various attacks. destroying them all would work though, although yixuan doesn't seem to have a limit on how many she can make so she could just keep spamming them

In that case I think they can use this with their various forms of absorption to handle it

that makes sense. obviously i don't expect her to be facetanking attacks especially if she picks up on the fact that the PF's attacks are messing with her mind, but i do think if it takes time to build up to the hidden faces phase and beyond she won't just immediately be rendered unable to fight due to the insanity

That's true although it still shifts the fight significantly in their favor and is pretty important if both dont have any immediate ways of ringing out the other

Actually NVM with her I think 4x LS advantage I could potentially see this as an option

i guess maybe you can attribute the pressure point effects to assault, since that's yinhu's element attribute. assault just momentarily stuns an enemy when enough damage is accumulated. seems kind of like a stretch though tbh, so personally i wouldn't really go arguing that yixuan could utilize pressure points against PF

Ok then, so it's basically an unknown

also probably worth noting that yixuan also has massive AOE attacks that PF needs to watch out for

They could just tunnel underground or use spark swap to evade this.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Speaking of which I'm honestly surprised we settled on class K for deepwoken

With a verse with lore as big as this and the giant monsters rooming around I'm really surprised nobody found a class M calc sooner (Ofc the one time we do we get class G but that's besides the point)

 

[Adasdadadsada]

Can she do anything against this if the pathfinder were to ambush her with tacet? She has no fire resistance in her profile.

 

[Sooshirohl]

They could just tunnel underground or use spark swap to evade this.

fair about tunneling underground, though i do think her also having massive AOE options especially in a relatively small space does limit a lot of the PF's mobility options, and it's gonna make them have to play more carefully against her

Can she do anything against this if the pathfinder were to ambush her with tacet? She has no fire resistance in her profile.

not really, it'd probably deal good damage to her if they managed to pull it off, though again i think PF setting up their wincons is just gonna be difficult because of yixuan's mobility + VV + her massive ranged/AOE options. also ik tacet has extrasensory perception negation, but on PF's profile it says that it has a detection range that allows someone to see them at a certain distance. would yixuan just not be able to sense the PF if they got too close?

 

[Adasdadadsada]

not really, it'd probably deal good damage to her if they managed to pull it off, though again i think PF setting up their wincons is just gonna be difficult because of yixuan's mobility + VV + her massive ranged/AOE options. also ik tacet has extrasensory perception negation, but on PF's profile it says that it has a detection range that allows someone to see them at a certain distance. would yixuan just not be able to sense the PF if they got too close?

About this small with the proper equipment (which I suppose could be used here) but they can still move normally albeit a bit slower and teleport around the circled area. If she is the type to assume that they might have gone invisible, even masking through her perception, then that could be problem.

 

[Sooshirohl]

i briefly watched a video on tacet just to get an idea of how it works, and while i do think it is really strong and has the potential to help PF set up a game ending attack, i do also think there's some caveats to it that hinder it a bit imo

1. the pathfinder's mobility options are insanely limited while in tacet, seeing as they can only roll or crouch. if yixuan's in the air while they're using tacet, it's literally going to be impossible for them to hit her without going out of it

2. basically doing any action immediately takes them out of tacet. sheathing, standing, jumping, sprinting, using moves, etc. this means that the PF basically has to crouch walk all the way up to pretty much point blank range to yixuan if they want to land any of their potent attacks, which i just don't really see being easy to do at all

3. tacet does have a set distance it's usable from, and if you're close enough to a player they can immediately see you. PF wouldn't be able to get right next to yixuan without immediately being noticed by her, from which she'd immediately be able to react and counter accordingly. also, apparently tacet makes a sound when you exit it, which also might give yixuan enough of an indicator to react if PF tries sneaking her with an attack

i think tacet's biggest caveat is the insane hindrance to mobility. if yixuan just decides to fly up and stay in the air, or even if she decides to just use any of her wide range AOE attacks to try and get PF out of hiding, they're basically going to have to drop tacet to either dodge or counterattack. i just don't really see it playing much of a factor then in that regard considering how many drawbacks it has

 

[AthelChan]

i briefly watched a video on tacet just to get an idea of how it works, and while i do think it is really strong and has the potential to help PF set up a game ending attack, i do also think there's some caveats to it that hinder it a bit imo

1. the pathfinder's mobility options are insanely limited while in tacet, seeing as they can only roll or crouch. if yixuan's in the air while they're using tacet, it's literally going to be impossible for them to hit her without going out of it

2. basically doing any action immediately takes them out of tacet. sheathing, standing, jumping, sprinting, using moves, etc. this means that the PF basically has to crouch walk all the way up to pretty much point blank range to yixuan if they want to land any of their potent attacks, which i just don't really see being easy to do at all

3. tacet does have a set distance it's usable from, and if you're close enough to a player they can immediately see you. PF wouldn't be able to get right next to yixuan without immediately being noticed by her, from which she'd immediately be able to react and counter accordingly. also, apparently tacet makes a sound when you exit it, which also might give yixuan enough of an indicator to react if PF tries sneaking her with an attack

i think tacet's biggest caveat is the insane hindrance to mobility. if yixuan just decides to fly up and stay in the air, or even if she decides to just use any of her wide range AOE attacks to try and get PF out of hiding, they're basically going to have to drop tacet to either dodge or counterattack. i just don't really see it playing much of a factor then in that regard considering how many drawbacks it has

I think you're confusing base tacet from soulbreaker tacet which allows you to teleport and keep tacet if you do it while crouching (you can spam this since it's just 5s cd), it doesn't remove that hinderance from movement but at least it has some ways to do so.

 

[Sooshirohl]

I think you're confusing base tacet from soulbreaker tacet which allows you to teleport and keep tacet if you do it while crouching (you can spam this since it's just 5s cd), it doesn't remove that hinderance from movement but at least it has some ways to do so.

didn't realize soulbreaker tacet had differentiations, my bad. it's late so this'll be more of a brief response but while being able to teleport under tacet definitely helps the mobility issue a lot, i'm still pretty sure PF still can't get to like point blank range without being detected. 5 seconds of cooldown isn't long but if yixuan is basically spamming AOE attacks trying to weed PF out the second they turn invisible they're still gonna have to go out of tacet to defend/dodge, and from a brief video i saw the teleportation is only grounded which still doesn't really solve the issue of yixuan just staying in the air to avoid getting surprise attacked

 

[Adasdadadsada]

didn't realize soulbreaker tacet had differentiations, my bad. it's late so this'll be more of a brief response but while being able to teleport under tacet definitely helps the mobility issue a lot, i'm still pretty sure PF still can't get to like point blank range without being detected. 5 seconds of cooldown isn't long but if yixuan is basically spamming AOE attacks trying to weed PF out the second they turn invisible they're still gonna have to go out of tacet to defend/dodge, and from a brief video i saw the teleportation is only grounded which still doesn't really solve the issue of yixuan just staying in the air to avoid getting surprise attacked

Question : Would she assume that the pathfinder went invisible, despite the fact that she can see things normal people can't?

And yep, tacet has the issues with it not being able to get to point blank range but the pathfinder still has ranged mantras like the modified flame repulsion which if she doesn't teleport away from should knock her. Although she has the significant AP advantage, and could easily get the pathfinder if they make a mistake.

The pathfinder could possibly hit her with this tacet infused mantra? Although probably not.

 

[AthelChan]

Hello @koopa3144, can you change the links loadout to mine? Arkan didnt copied my loadout so it looks incomplete if its okay.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Job license training

You need to tell us what happened with your job license

 

[AthelChan]

You need to tell us what happened with your job license

i just need an assessment and i can get it, altho that'll happen next year cuz of holidays and whatnot.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Question : Would she assume that the pathfinder went invisible, despite the fact that she can see things normal people can't?

i mean, tacet literally has an animation where PF fades from visible to invisible lol. considering the general small size of the arena, i don't think it'd be hard for yixuan to notice them simply fading into invisibility. granted, if they were to do it while under the cover of smoke or something, that'd definitely be possible, but given yixuan's intelligence and her experience fighting enemies who can simply phase in and out of visibility i don't think it'd take much for her to deduce what was happening, and from there she could either just fly up to gain some distance off the ground or spam her AOE attacks in an attempt to fish the PF out

The pathfinder could possibly hit her with this tacet infused mantra? Although probably not.

i think this one just falls into the camp of being too tricky to land with her mobility yeah

 

[AthelChan]

i mean, tacet literally has an animation where PF fades from visible to invisible lol. considering the general small size of the arena, i don't think it'd be hard for yixuan to notice them simply fading into invisibility. granted, if they were to do it while under the cover of smoke or something, that'd definitely be possible, but given yixuan's intelligence and her experience fighting enemies who can simply phase in and out of visibility i don't think it'd take much for her to deduce what was happening, and from there she could either just fly up to gain some distance off the ground or spam her AOE attacks in an attempt to fish the PF out


i think this one just falls into the camp of being too tricky to land with her mobility yeah

Damn if there's only other ways to attack flying enemies, air counter isn't gonna cut it alone (or certain aimable ranged mantras). Maybe sneaking around isn't a good option at all, atp I think direct combat with the right combinations might not force her into flying but considering he's better off fighting than trying to be sneaky.

 

[TheComet9]

Finally caught up, if using electricity manip would break bones, wouldn't that count as overbrutalizing?

 

[Sooshirohl]

Finally caught up, if using electricity manip would break bones, wouldn't that count as overbrutalizing?

i mean, deku was breaking his own bones fighting against todoroki lol. i guess it'd depend, i assume this matchup is being overseen by people to make sure no one breaks rules. i think it'd only really count as overbrutalizing if pathfinder kept spamming electric attacks after yixuan was already incapped, but if they did just enough to incap her and render her unable to fight, i don't think it'd count as overbrutalizing

 

[Sooshirohl]

Damn if there's only other ways to attack flying enemies, air counter isn't gonna cut it alone (or certain aimable ranged mantras). Maybe sneaking around isn't a good option at all, atp I think direct combat with the right combinations might not force her into flying but considering he's better off fighting than trying to be sneaky.

i do think pathfinder has a lot of options they can throw at yixuan, and stuff like madness manip isn't really something she has an option for, but yeah i still think her mobility is just going to be a really big issue to work around. attack reflection would throw her off, but she should be smart enough to work around it. i think she could probably just use vital view to smack a talisman onto PF to get rid of it if necessary and go from there, or just keep spamming ranged talismans until she manages to land one on them

i'm honestly just not really sure how yixuan could manage a win, which is partly what's stopping me from casting a vote for her. ringing out PF would be hard with their various methods of teleportation. i was thinking maybe she could burn through their ether supply to prevent them from using mantras, and in that time get a ringout, but considering how many options they have for replenishing ether i doubt that'd be possible. maybe getting a ringout during an instance of VV could work, but i think the window of time she has would be too short for that to be a reliable option, coupled with the fact that PF would also be attacking back and she'd still have to focus on dodging/blocking attacks. the only other option i guess would just be KO. attack reflection would make that extremely difficult, but if she manages to null that it might make things easier for her. i'd need to know how good PF's healing/regen is, but i could see yixuan managing to overwhelm them with attacks helped by her general stat advantage

 

[TheComet9]

i'd need to know how good PF's healing/regen is, but i could see yixuan managing to overwhelm them with attacks helped by her general stat advantage

Pathfinder's regen might let him heal from getting stabbed, but it's really slow unless they have potions (which they don't here) and their healing consists of either Grand Support, which wouldn't work, or Iceberg, which might disqualify them

 

[Sooshirohl]

Pathfinder's regen might let him heal from getting stabbed, but it's really slow unless they have potions (which they don't here) and their healing consists of either Grand Support, which wouldn't work, or Iceberg, which might disqualify them

hmm, alright, that's good to know then. i think yixuan would go into the fight initially just trying to go for a quick ringout, but the second she sees stuff like the pathfinder's attack reflection and teleportation, she might switch tactics to go for a KO instead. her main priority would probably be trying to powernull their attack reflection as quickly as possible. once she gets that off, i think things would be a lot easier for her given her massive range/AOE and stat advantage

her mobility makes it so that a lot of the pathfinder's options would either be really hard to land, and vital view is going to make landing reliable attacks on her even harder. suffocate would hinder her a lot, but i think the setup required to land something like wind gun or galetrap are just going to be insanely difficult. even if PF manages to get into point blank range to try and land a surprise attack on her, it's possible she could react fast enough to dodge since she's shown capable of dodging point blank attacks before. tacet as a whole i think is probably just too unreliable to utilize here for my aforementioned reasonings. while feints are really useful and could catch yixuan off guard with some attacks, i think over time she'd be able to adapt and react to them given her own skill, intelligence and accelerated development. madness manipulation is still probably PF's most dangerous ability and it's something yixuan has no answer for, but i think she can manage the effects of insanity long enough to beat PF before she goes too insane. a lot of PF's status effects also might not work given yixuan's ability to purify/cure herself of ailments.

with all that being said, while i won't cast a vote yet, i do think i'm leaning yixuan in a very high diff fight. i think she just has all the tools she needs to deal with PF's massive versatility (also helps that they likely wouldn't use a good portion of their abilities to go with the rules of the tournament), and i think she can beat them fast enough before getting overwhelmed by the effects of insanity. willing to hear counterargs though, this is just my stance atm from everything i've seen

 

[AthelChan]

hmm, alright, that's good to know then. i think yixuan would go into the fight initially just trying to go for a quick ringout, but the second she sees stuff like the pathfinder's attack reflection and teleportation, she might switch tactics to go for a KO instead. her main priority would probably be trying to powernull their attack reflection as quickly as possible. once she gets that off, i think things would be a lot easier for her given her massive range/AOE and stat advantage

Can they powernull a soul-based ability? resonances are pretty much the personality of your soul manifested as a instrument (I WISH I PUT THIS BEFORE). The loadout linked didn't (blame Arkan for not mentioning me and making his own shit and he isnt the knowledgeable member of this verse) really specificied but the payback is corrupted which means he heals equal to 50% of damage she dealt

 

[Adasdadadsada]

They might be able to reversal spark into this since she has no electricity resistance

 

[Adasdadadsada]

Can they powernull a soul-based ability? resonances are pretty much the personality of your soul manifested as a instrument (I WISH I PUT THIS BEFORE). The loadout linked didn't (blame Arkan for not mentioning me and making his own shit and he isnt the knowledgeable member of this verse) really specificied but the payback is corrupted which means he heals equal to 50% of damage she dealt

Would it also have dura neg based on the fact that it's an oath damage.

 

[AthelChan]

Would it also have dura neg based on the fact that it's an oath damage.

we don't include statistics like this because its not on profile atm (still wanna debate abt this). Besides not all oaths have this, they have both types i.e blightsurger has blunt and oath damage.

 

[Adasdadadsada]

we don't include statistics like this because its not on profile atm (still wanna debate abt this). Besides not all oaths have this, they have both types i.e blightsurger has blunt and oath damage.

I mean it's probably a form of it, why would oaths have a special damage type despite them looking like normal mantras.

 

[TheComet9]

her mobility makes it so that a lot of the pathfinder's options would either be really hard to land, and vital view is going to make landing reliable attacks on her even harder.

Pathfinder has some homing attacks that could catch her. And yea vital view would work in this situation

suffocate would hinder her a lot, but i think the setup required to land something like wind gun or galetrap are just going to be insanely difficult. even if PF manages to get into point blank range to try and land a surprise attack on her, it's possible she could react fast enough to dodge since she's shown capable of dodging point blank attacks before.

These 2 moves aren't the only way to apply suffocate, Pathfinder could also land 3 galebreathe moves (btw, for the duration of the effect, it usually lasts 5 seconds but pathfinder can extend it by hitting Yixuan)

tacet as a whole i think is probably just too unreliable to utilize here for my aforementioned reasonings

makes sense

while feints are really useful and could catch yixuan off guard with some attacks, i think over time she'd be able to adapt and react to them given her own skill, intelligence and accelerated development.

That's true, but if she gets caught off guard too much by it she might get ringed out with a grand skewer

 

[TheComet9]

bruh i missclicked hold up

 

[TheComet9]

madness manipulation is still probably PF's most dangerous ability and it's something yixuan has no answer for, but i think she can manage the effects of insanity long enough to beat PF before she goes too insane. a lot of PF's status effects also might not work given yixuan's ability to purify/cure herself of ailments.

makes sense too

 

[Sooshirohl]

Can they powernull a soul-based ability? resonances are pretty much the personality of your soul manifested as a instrument (I WISH I PUT THIS BEFORE). The loadout linked didn't (blame Arkan for not mentioning me and making his own shit and he isnt the knowledgeable member of this verse) really specificied but the payback is corrupted which means he heals equal to 50% of damage she dealt

i guess it kind of depends on how you interpret it. so in the instance we see yixuan's power null showcased, she's basically fighting against an ethereal boss that has the ability to draw in miasma (basically an alternative form of ether) from it's surrounding environment in order to heal itself. she places a talisman on it and instantly removes it's self-healing ability. that self-healing ability is one that's quite literally tied to the physiology of the ethereal, so if you think you could make a similar argument for the resonance, being an ability that's directly tied to the pathfinder's being, i don't see why she wouldn't be able to nullify it

They might be able to reversal spark into this since she has no electricity resistance

this kinda just seems a bit too cumbersome for me to say it'd really be able to tag her imo

Pathfinder has some homing attacks that could catch her. And yea vital view would work in this situation

i'd have to see how fast the homing attacks are, because if they aren't basically instant she should be able to either dodge, counterattack with her own attacks or just make a forcefield to block them

These 2 moves aren't the only way to apply suffocate, Pathfinder could also land 3 galebreathe moves (btw, for the duration of the effect, it usually lasts 5 seconds but pathfinder can extend it by hitting Yixuan)

that's good to know. briefly glancing through the list of galebreathe moves, there are definitely some i think might be a bit easier for PF to land if they can chain them together. the duration is also good to know, though being afflicted with suffocate means yixuan would only really have her martial arts and vital view to defend herself. it's possible she could evade long enough to last the 5 seconds, but if PF is relentless enough while she's afflicted with it they could probably get a ringout or incap

That's true, but if she gets caught off guard too much by it she might get ringed out with a grand skewer

fair. grand javelin/skewer stuns you while you're caught in it right? i assume she wouldn't be able to just teleport out of it if she got hit/dragged away by it, though it also has a brief windup + travel time so i think yixuan could react to it to dodge

 

[AthelChan]

stuns you while you're caught in it right?

For the duration of grand javelin, you cant move yeah.

 

[Naito-desu]

funnily enough, a low 7-C ZZZ feat also got approved recently so yixuan should be able to also scale to that too whenever we decide to make a CRT to get it implemented lol

It's actually 7-C this time lol, adjusted the calc a bit so we're 10 kilotons

 

[Sooshirohl]

It's actually 7-C this time lol, adjusted the calc a bit so we're 10 kilotons

oh sweet, didn't even realize the calc got buffed

 

[AthelChan]

This is a tough match to deside, can't even vote.

 

[Adasdadadsada]

oh sweet, didn't even realize the calc got buffed

btw, how high would she be flying?

 

[Sooshirohl]

btw, how high would she be flying?

going off these cutscenes, it seems like she can fly pretty high. obviously i don't think she'd just camp out in the clouds or something and rain down attacks, but at the very least she can fly high enough to where she can keep a safe distance from a lot of PF's attacks