Better Call Solitude (Mario and Luigi Brothership 2nd CRT (3-A, 2-C, or 2-B))

[Galactidot]

A little late but the zeekeeper stuff is a no go imo

"the zeekeeper wouldnt let it fly"

He didn't care to help with bowser until he was offered money

and all the statues are undiscovered until you yourself find them , and NPCs are unaware of them as you have to talk to Issa Rock when you discover it.

So theres no evidence that great conductor even knows who the zeekeeper is to begin with, or even if it interacted at all with them.

Irrelevant atm but I will say this:

Conductor would know Zeekeeper exists, as he already scanned the multiverse

Statues are undiscovered, but it must mean something that Issa immediately writes a prayer poem about him that narrates EXACTLY what he does, especially if he's unheard of.

Note how all the other rocks of characters from other dimensions are very vague, but the Zeekeeper is an exception.

Unless we just give Issa Rock limited omnipotence or something

 

[ShakeResounding]

OP's arguments towards scaling makes more sense to me, as little as my vote is worth.

Forgive me if I'm missing something since I haven't been able to keep up with this thread; doesn't mass-scale alterations across various worlds (universes) count for something tierable?

 

[AyOgUyS]

I now agree with OP

 

[Galactidot]

Forgive me if I'm missing something since I haven't been able to keep up with this thread; doesn't mass-scale alterations across various worlds (universes) count for something tierable?

Yes, actually! For instance:

2-B: Multiverse level
Characters or objects that can significantly affect, create and/or destroy larger multiverses composed of 1001 to any higher finite amount of separate space-time continuums.

So both the simulation dreams of the previous thread (2-C to 2-B) and ending all life (the current thread):

High 3-A: High Universe level
Characters or objects that demonstrate an infinite amount of energy on a 3-D scale, such as creating or destroying infinite mass or affecting an infinite 3-D space. This extends to an infinite number of finite or infinite-sized 3-D universes or pocket dimensions when not accounting for any higher dimensions or time. Large numbers of infinite 3-D universes, unless causally closed from one another by a separate spacetime or existence, only count for a higher level of this tier. Being "infinitely" stronger than this level, unless uncountably so, does not qualify for any higher tier.

Would at minimum give him High 3-A in a non-biased environment! Don't ask me how this is being danced around so much, it's pretty blatant.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Yes, actually! For instance:

Ah, I knew there was wording that used "significantly affect" somewhere but couldn't quite remember. Thank you for reminding me of that.

So both the simulation dreams of the previous thread (2-C to 2-B) and ending all life (the current thread):

And just to make sure I'm not confusing anything regarding previous arguments; we know as a 100% fact that Reclusa is the one creating these dream worlds because they have his telltale energy signature (the red staticy/glitchy influence), right? Isn't it also explicitly stated, or is it just heavy context/on-the-nose inference?

Would at minimum give him High 3-A in a non-biased environment! Don't ask me how this is being danced around so much, it's pretty blatant.

What makes it High 3-A at lowest again? Infinite-size dream worlds? Or is it that Reclusa is affecting dream worlds simultaneously?

Sorry for all the questions and asking for confirmations, I just dont want to misrepresent what you're saying.

 

[Galactidot]

Ah, I knew there was wording that used "significantly affect" somewhere but couldn't quite remember. Thank you for reminding me of that.

And just to make sure I'm not confusing anything regarding previous arguments (sorry, still a Mario noob when it comes to the newest games); we know as a 100% fact that Reclusa is the one creating these dream worlds because they have his telltale energy signature (the red staticy/glitchy influence), right? Isn't it also explicitly stated, or is it just heavy context/on-the-nose inference?

Either creating or modifying them to the point where he has full control and they become Cyberspatial ^^

He says he's creating them, at minimum he has to be modifying them with his powers

What makes it High 3-A at lowest again? Infinite-size dream worlds? Or is it that Reclusa is affecting dream worlds simultaneously?

High 3-A is from him killing all life in the infinite universe in the real world, but he could technically get that from Dreams too.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

What makes it High 3-A at lowest again? Infinite-size dream worlds? Or is it that Reclusa is affecting dream worlds simultaneously?

Sorry for all the questions and asking for confirmations, I just dont want to misrepresent what you're saying.

Outside of the Dream World production thing, he is still consuming the "everyone in the World/Dimension" they are in, which is obviously a universe as opposed 4-A or 3-B sized pocket dimension. Likewise, the Galaxy related updates confirms that universes contain infinite amounts of living planets/stars.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Thank you both for your responses.

If universes are now stated to have an infinite amount of living planets/stars as of the Galaxy 1 & 2 remasters, then I think that does sound like it secures a High 3-A rating of some sort.

• Aims to kill everyone in the dimension.
• Dimensions have infinite planets and stars that contribute to dreams as "living" beings (unless I'm mistaken).
• Putting an end to life would necessitate the destruction of said celestial bodies.

Would this be an accurate TL;DR for such arguments?

 

[Galactidot]

Thank you both for your responses.

If universes are now stated to have an infinite amount of living planets/stars as of the Galaxy 1 & 2 remasters, then I think that does sound like it secures a High 3-A rating of some sort.

• Aims to kill everyone in the dimension.
• Dimensions have infinite planets and stars that contribute to dreams as "living" beings (unless I'm mistaken).
• Putting an end to life would necessitate the destruction of said celestial bodies.

Would this be an accurate TL;DR for such arguments?

You know? Absolutely! In fact, I never even thought about planets and stars literally being alive, which outright answers Armor's question as to why Reclusa would destroy the universe! Looking back on it, I remember the Mario 25th anniversary guidebook saying Dinosaur Land is alive, so this has been consistent for a while!

Dimensions have infinite planets and stars that contribute to dreams as "living" beings (unless I'm mistaken).

And no, you're not mistaken!
This also touches upon Dreampoints from Dream Team, which house Dream Worlds that are created by the area, not the people sleeping there. Like a city, or a mountain. (therefore, Reclusa also can't be manipulating Dreams through the brains, as believe it or not, Mountains don't have brains. This is what Mt Pajamaja and Earthwake are.

So Reclusa would absolutely have a reason to destroy these infinite planets and stars considering they're alive, and he has to be modifying/creating Dreams directly rather than modifying the victims brains as Armor proposed, as Earthwake and Mt Pajamaja show us that the land, which doesn't have a brain, can dream, which funnily enough answers the conflict with the previous thread as well.

 

[Galactidot]

Bumpty

 

[Imaginym]

Outside of the Dream World production thing, he is still consuming the "everyone in the World/Dimension" they are in, which is obviously a universe as opposed 4-A or 3-B sized pocket dimension. Likewise, the Galaxy related updates confirms that universes contain infinite amounts of living planets/stars.

Thank you both for your responses.

If universes are now stated to have an infinite amount of living planets/stars as of the Galaxy 1 & 2 remasters, then I think that does sound like it secures a High 3-A rating of some sort.

• Aims to kill everyone in the dimension.
• Dimensions have infinite planets and stars that contribute to dreams as "living" beings (unless I'm mistaken).
• Putting an end to life would necessitate the destruction of said celestial bodies.

Would this be an accurate TL;DR for such arguments?

I take it you two are in agreement regarding the mentioned matters? Speaking personally, the TL;DR seems reasonable, so I would tentatively support it, especially presuming other Staff & Knowledgeable Members find it agreeable.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Yeah, pretty sure we are. Thank you!

 

[Armorchompy]

especially presuming other Staff & Knowledgeable Members find it agreeable.

They do not. As with the previous thread votes have not been updated but I and Bambu have voted against this thread, while DDM has voted in favor.

 

[Starsprite53]

I agree with the dream stuff scaling, but I disagree with destroying Concordia's dimension since it lacks evidence and all life can refer to a planet.

 

[Galactidot]

They do not. As with the previous thread votes have not been updated but I and Bambu have voted against this thread, while DDM has voted in favor.

I don't think that's what Imaginym meant, they'd have no reason to lie.

 

[Armorchompy]

I didn't say they were lying. They said they were "assuming other staff agree" and I clarified that they do not.

 

[Galactidot]

I didn't say they were lying. They said they were "assuming other staff agree" and I clarified that they do not.

Oh okay

 

[Imaginym]

In other words, there's a lot of disagreement between staff & knowledgeable members about parts or the whole of this topic, then, no?

 

[Galactidot]

In other words, there's a lot of disagreement between staff & knowledgeable members about parts or the whole of this topic, then, no?

Not really a lot of disagreement, just Armor and Bambu. Neither have really given input on the new information to be fair either.

 

[Armorchompy]

That's because there is no input to give. Your "information" as always is plain to see as baseless conjecture. It's always a hundred different variations of "if you take this to be true this could also be true" and "this unrelated piece of information could be seen as evidence". There is nothing to disprove because there's hardly anything at all. If Imaginym requests it or disagrees I can go through the song and dance again, but I would really rather not waste more time on this thread - either way I would remind them and other staff members who may see this thread that just because a reasoning sounds plausible that doesn't actually mean it's true and that we require actual evidence for our threads.

 

[Galactidot]

That's because there is no input to give. Your "information" as always is plain to see as baseless conjecture. It's always a hundred different variations of "if you take this to be true this could also be true" and "this unrelated piece of information could be seen as evidence". There is nothing to disprove because there's hardly anything at all. If Imaginym requests it or disagrees I can go through the song and dance again, but I would really rather not waste more time on this thread - either way I would remind them and other staff members who may see this thread that just because a reasoning sounds plausible that doesn't actually mean it's true and that we require actual evidence for our threads.

There IS actual evidence, how is there not?
Read this post and onwards, and tell me how none of that is evidence. No, like, ACTUALLY tell me, because I genuinely don't see what you're talking about. If there isn't evidence, prove it.

You'll find out there is a very real difference between conjecture and modus ponens.

We answered why Reclusa would destroy the land, your main question. Please give it a shot and try to educate yourself on what I've posted before saying stuff like this.

Keep in mind your argument last time hinged on the blind guess that Reclusa modifies the brains of his victims rather than the dream worlds themselves. After reading what I requested of you, you'll find that to be aptly disproved

(So don't talk to me about conjecture~)

Also don't know why I didn't bring this up earlier, but Piranha Plants famously don't have brains, so much of this new info isn't even needed.

 

[Armorchompy]

There IS actual evidence, how is there not?
Read this post and onwards, and tell me how none of that is evidence. No, like, ACTUALLY tell me, because I genuinely don't see what you're talking about. If there isn't evidence, prove it.
You'll find out there is a very real difference between conjecture and modus ponens.

We answered why Reclusa would destroy the land, your main question. Please give it a shot and try to educate yourself on what I've posted before saying stuff like this.

No you didn't. You mentioned unrelated bits of "lore" that are never referenced in the actual story we're talking about, and posited that they can be inferred to be a motivation for something that is never even implied, all still based on willful misinterpretation of two random lines.

Keep in mind your argument last time hinged on the blind guess that Reclusa modifies the brains of his victims rather than the dream worlds themselves. After reading what I requested of you, you'll find that to be aptly disproved

If by "blind guess" you mean "directly shown to work that way and only contradicted by bits of wording presented out of context", then sure. In the version of Brothership's story that only exists in your head I'm sure it doesn't make much sense. And mind you, you were the one positing it worked the other way, I just pointed out that like everything else you didn't have any real proof.

Also don't know why I didn't bring this up earlier, but Piranha Plants famously don't have brains, so much of this new info isn't even needed.

This is a perfect microcosm of everything that's wrong with the stuff you say. You brought up an unrelated factoid (with no scans), assumed that not only the writers of Brothership were somehow aware of what is certainly an extremely niche piece of lore, assumed that this would be a critical motivator for Reclusa, assumed several things about Reclusa's MO, assumed that this would make him want to destroy the universe, assumed that's enough to prove he can destroy the universe, and finally concluded that this was blatant evidence even though it's so far removed from the argument and started acting like it means something.

 

[Galactidot]

No you didn't. You mentioned unrelated bits of "lore" that are never referenced in the actual story we're talking about, and posited that they can be inferred to be a motivation for something that is never even implied, all still based on willful misinterpretation of two random lines.

Willful misinterpretation? I'm sorry, but YOU admitted yourself that you don't know much about the lore of Mario games. Much less than someone who is backed up by a mod who DOES and considering I have 100%'d THE GAME.

If by "blind guess" you mean "directly shown to work that way and only contradicted by bits of wording presented out of context", then sure. In the version of Brothership's story that only exists in your head I'm sure it doesn't make much sense. And mind you, you were the one positing it worked the other way, I just pointed out that like everything else you didn't have any real proof.

It was NOT directly shown to work that way. Where did you get that from? Show ME evidence, for once, rather than asking me to find niche information to further prove your points that don't exist. I've gathered SO MANY SCANS by now, Japanese and English, only for you to trot along on your high horse of ignorance and stomp all over it. Now it's your turn! Assuming you can actually FIND any evidence.

This is a perfect microcosm of everything that's wrong with the stuff you say. You brought up an unrelated factoid (with no scans), assumed that not only the writers of Brothership were somehow aware of what is certainly an extremely niche piece of lore, assumed that this would be a critical motivator for Reclusa, assumed several things about Reclusa's MO, assumed that this would make him want to destroy the universe, assumed that's enough to prove he can destroy the universe, and finally concluded that this was blatant evidence even though it's so far removed from the argument and started acting like it means something.

It's a freaking plant bro, Einstein isn't required to realize it don't have a brain I'm telling you that Reclusa will kill these guys that can literally talk, go-kart, and play sports. He won't want them around in his ideal world. Are you in disagreement? After line one, you just started making things up about me. JEEZ.

 

[Armorchompy]

Willful misinterpretation? I'm sorry, but YOU admitted yourself that you don't know much about the lore of Mario games. Much less than someone who is backed up by a mod who DOES and considering I have 100%'d THE GAME.

First off: Mario games don't have "lore". There isn't a great interconnected narrative that you are piecing together, and most of the RPGs have self-contained stories other than the pre-Brothership M&L games.

Second: I am quite capable of judging the evidence that is placed before my eyes and I can plainly see that there is nothing here. You allegedly knowing more about the games is worth precisely nothing if you can't put together a decent case.

It was NOT directly shown to work that way. Where did you get that from? Show ME evidence, for once, rather than asking me to find niche information to further prove your points that don't exist. I've gathered SO MANY SCANS by now, Japanese and English, only for you to trot along on your high horse of ignorance and stomp all over it. Now it's your turn! Assuming you can actually FIND any evidence.

I wasted enough time explaining the same things over and over again in the last thread. Keep your tantrums to yourself.

It's a freaking plant bro, Einstein isn't required to realize it don't have a brain I'm telling you that Reclusa will kill these guys that can literally talk, go-kart, and play sports. He won't want them around in his ideal world. Are you in disagreement? After line one, you just started making things up about me. JEEZ.

I'm in disagreement that this somehow leads to treating the conclusion of "Reclusa not only wants to destroy the universe but is capable of doing so." as not only likely but self-evident. You can come up with fifteen different headcanons as to how he'd handle this kind of situation that don't lead to that realization that are equally valid as these wild connections you keep making. Hell we don't know much about Reclusa's limits, for all we know the flowers are perfectly capable of sticking the plants in dream worlds just like everyone else.

 

[Galactidot]

First off: Mario games don't have "lore". There isn't a great interconnected narrative that you are piecing together, and most of the RPGs have self-contained stories other than the pre-Brothership M&L games.

Second: I am quite capable of judging the evidence that is placed before my eyes and I can plainly see that there is nothing here. You allegedly knowing more about the games is worth precisely nothing if you can't put together a decent case.

Pre-Brothership is crazy, unless you are referring to the Fawful arc, there is an entire sidequest revolving around Starlow and Bowser's bond from Bowser's Inside Story.

I wasted enough time explaining the same things over and over again in the last thread. Keep your tantrums to yourself.

Show don't tell. In the last thread I was asking you to bring scans too, you never did as far as I can remember.

I'm in disagreement that this somehow leads to treating the conclusion of "Reclusa not only wants to destroy the universe but is capable of doing so." as not only likely but self-evident. You can come up with fifteen different headcanons as to how he'd handle this kind of situation that don't lead to that realization that are equally valid as these wild connections you keep making. Hell we don't know much about Reclusa's limits, for all we know the flowers are perfectly capable of sticking the plants in dream worlds just like everyone else.

This doesn't lead to that conclusion. I never said it did. Assuming you honestly read what I said, you'd know that I already said I'll settle for him simply killing everybody, and not destroying the universe itself. I'm telling you that he needs non-flower methods for those who can't be affected by them, and that the flowers themselves work directly with the dreams, not the brains (by proxy of them working on brainless beings)

In other words, you haven't backed up anything you're disagreeing WITH. At this point of not providing evidence or scans, and having all of your own arguments hinge on calling the game's writers and writing incompetent or inconsistent, or swinging to the OTHER SIDE of the pendulum and suggesting that what the scan says isn't actually true, and it's a figure of speech, no matter how much translations and consistency I show you.

(And this paragraph I just responded to proves beyond a doubt that you either didn't read what we were discussing, or are simply ignoring it.
We've actually already decided that you may have a point on him not destroying the universe itself, and rather destroying all life within it.

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I'm fully convinced you're disagreeing for the love of the game at this point, as much as I don't want to believe it. GENUINELY. Please consider proving me wrong with a more thought out, more honest, and less demeaning response.


Are the fifteen different headcanons in the room with us?
List them, bro, because I have no clue where you pulled this from
You know, get scans! Or just drop this thing that never happened.
Or else I'll have to assume you're being dishonest again

 

[Galactidot]

bump

 

[Galactidot]

Okay, let me say something NEW that I don't know why I didn't mention at all earlier.

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Reclusa scales to both his dream worlds AND the worlds and people he destroys:

You may recall that Reclusa is a being that turns loneliness into energy (Glohm), giving him his form and power
Once he is done killing everybody, he manifests a new physical form in another dimension by gathering enough Glohm (concept he introduces) in the new dimension.
This is done through his egg.

Reclusa's egg is the source of his power, and is fueled by the very world's isolation.
When Reclusa hatches, he creates the Soli-tree from his egg. the egg exploding immediately turns the sky of (at least) the planet red.
This also later creates a pillar of Glohm that shoots into the sky, displaying even MORE energy.

The egg is both the SEED of the Soli-tree and EGG of Reclusa, and gained all of it's energy from the same source.
The Soli-tree is equal to Reclusa (with Reclusa's death destroying the Soli-tree, and everything it made) and made all of the dreams, and is where he siphons his power from.
(See how it's completely in sync with his expressions, and how when he starts expending more energy, it does the same.)

Everything Reclusa did in and out of dreams is Glohm-related, and it is a UES.
He pulls from the same power source, so his dream-manipulation feats are scalable to him ALONG with his real world feats.

 

[Armorchompy]

Holy shit stop making unrelated arguments already. You can't just keep coming up with new things and act like they're all part of a coherent point, this isn't even related to any discussion we've had before.

EDIT: Actually I'm just vetoing this. Constantly throwing up new unrelated concepts is terrible thread etiquette, makes votes completely impossible to keep track of and completely ruins any value old discussion might've had. Learn to make an organized coherent argument.

 

[Galactidot]

Holy shit stop making unrelated arguments already. You can't just keep coming up with new things and act like they're all part of a coherent point, this isn't even related to any discussion we've had before.

This is entirely related. In both this and the previous thread, you were questioning whether Reclusa uses the same source of power for everything he does.

Like bro can you at least just give your thoughts on this? Can we at least agree upon a Glohm UES right here? This fulfills all the requirements, and would STABILIZE a huge chunk of this argument!

And when I say something that IS related, you just say I'm repeating myself and don't respond so cough cough sneeze moving the goalpost under this logic I can't say anything valid by your holy standards --- you'll always find a way to ignore or disregard it --- you didn't even READ my recent posts, as I pointed out in the last one.

 

[Galactidot]

EDIT: Actually I'm just vetoing this. Constantly throwing up new unrelated concepts is terrible thread etiquette, makes votes completely impossible to keep track of and completely ruins any value old discussion might've had. Learn to make an organized coherent argument.

I TRIED to do that TIME AND TIME again, I don't understand how that's possible when you constantly ignore every relevant post I make, OF COURSE I'm going to bring up something new, as YOU REQUESTED

 

[Galactidot]

EDIT: Actually I'm just vetoing this. Constantly throwing up new unrelated concepts is terrible thread etiquette, makes votes completely impossible to keep track of and completely ruins any value old discussion might've had. Learn to make an organized coherent argument.

This is entirely related. In both this and the previous thread, you were questioning whether Reclusa uses the same source of power for everything he does.

Like bro can you at least just give your thoughts on this? Can we at least agree upon a Glohm UES right here? This fulfills all the requirements, and would STABILIZE a huge chunk of this argument!

And when I say something that IS related, you just say I'm repeating myself and don't respond so cough cough sneeze moving the goalpost under this logic I can't say anything valid by your holy standards --- you'll always find a way to ignore or disregard it --- you didn't even READ my recent posts, as I pointed out in the last one.

I'm going without feedback here, guys. This is debatably on you for not giving me a damn clue about what to talk about that isn't considered "repetitive". It's a toxic loop. Either way I go, it's either:

A. Unrelated
B. Repetitive

Also, @Armorchompy @Da3ggman , can you two explain how it's unrelated, when it's literally part of the main post?

Armor, can you tell me the REASON you're disagreeing? The reason I'm posting so many different points is because I have zero clue what you disagree with in particular, so I'm covering all bases.

THEN you can tell me how bad my "thread etiquette" is.

(And what do you mean "veto"?)

 

[Da3ggman]

Also, @Armorchompy @Da3ggman , can you two explain how it's unrelated, when it's literally part of the main post?

All I did was like a comment

But if I gotta say something, most of this just reads like making assumptions and connecting things and aren’t connected to justify 2-C Mario, like Armor has been saying.

And this is coming from someone who actually believes in Uni+ and up Mario regardless, so I’m not against the idea either. This way, to me at least, just ain’t it.

 

[Galactidot]

All I did was like a comment

No beef, just like = agree, dw

But if I gotta say something, most of this just reads like making assumptions and connecting things and aren’t connected to justify 2-C Mario, like Armor has been saying.

I can somewhat see that? I formatted it strangely I guess, the point of this thread isn't to mash stuff together, it's connecting his feats and statements to prove it's his power through Glohm:

1. He uses Glohm as his power source, is made of it, and created it
2. His egg is made entirely of Glohm
3. This egg scales directly to everybody in the world, as that's where it's from
4. (This means he's directly stated to have the power of everybody infected with Glohm (and the world itself)
5. He can use it in the real world to create the Soli-tree, which spawns from and scales to his egg
6. The Soli-tree directly scales to Reclusa, the dreams, and the world, as Glohm made all three from the same power source and amount through his egg
7. Reclusa = Egg = World = Dreams = Glohm = Soli-tree

This is exactly what the writers intended, as the whole first act of the game revolves around Zokket gathering the energy for Reclusa:

• "Destroying the Uni-Tree was a good start to the scheme."
• "Then I used Glohm to sever connections between both the land and its people."
• "All so that Reclusa could come into this world!"

So this list is really just an explanation of what is POWERED by Glohm.

None of this is actually speculation or guessing, all of this is stated in-game.

 

[Galactidot]

1. He uses Glohm as his power source, is made of it, and created it
2. His egg is made entirely of Glohm
3. This egg scales directly to everybody in the world, as that's where it's from
4. (This means he's directly stated to have the power of everybody infected with Glohm (and the world itself)
5. He can use it in the real world to create the Soli-tree, which spawns from and scales to his egg
6. The Soli-tree directly scales to Reclusa, the dreams, and the world, as Glohm made all three from the same power source and amount through his egg
7. Reclusa = Egg = World = Dreams = Glohm = Soli-tree

So these are the basics of it, does this look better?

 

[SuperMarioGamers3]

Agree with all the upgrades, btw

 

[Galactidot]

Agree with all the upgrades, btw

W

 

[Galactidot]

There's an official Brothership guidebook. Pretty neat stuff in here I'd imagine

Has attack names, lore info, and more.

And yes, Reclusa is in it!

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

There's an official Brothership guidebook. Pretty neat stuff in here I'd imagine

Has attack names, lore info, and more.

And yes, Reclusa is in it!

I'd recommend translation helpers to help out with that.

 

[Galactidot]

This is entirely related. In both this and the previous thread, you were questioning whether Reclusa uses the same source of power for everything he does.

Like bro can you at least just give your thoughts on this? Can we at least agree upon a Glohm UES right here? This fulfills all the requirements, and would STABILIZE a huge chunk of this argument!

And when I say something that IS related, you just say I'm repeating myself and don't respond so cough cough sneeze moving the goalpost under this logic I can't say anything valid by your holy standards --- you'll always find a way to ignore or disregard it --- you didn't even READ my recent posts, as I pointed out in the last one.

@Armorchompy Please, PLEASE read this post onwards, and tell me what you think.

 

[Galactidot]

Also, Reclusa gets Fourth-Wall Awareness for obvious reasons, right? Not R>F obviously, but something more akin to Bill Cipher in the Book of Bill (claiming or threatening the ability to impact our world).