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It would honestly be cooler if it was like Steven Universe, where Steven never really was more powerful necessarily than anyone else (until pink Steven) and he instead could talk no justu,
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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It's crazy how Charlie's entire concept for her hotel and career is reliant on good social skills yet she's arguably the most socially inept person in this entire verse outside the creepy Fizz fan from Helluva Boss
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Eden_Warlock99
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Blitz managed to convince several skilled people to work under him and made amends with someone who he blew the limbs.
Stolas is fair, but at the same time he's not creating a whole ass job that is predicated on good social skills.
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i just hope they start bringing more of Charlie's problems up this season, and don't try and rely on the ambiguous 5th one
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I know characters more inept than Charlie at social influence, Sir Pentious and Adam!
WITHOUT THE REPUTATION BUFFS!
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I mean...but Stolas didn't commit mass murder or broke the heart of dozens of people out of selfishness...not a high bar, but he is the only one from the main casts in HB who is in Heroes wiki (and also villains wiki)
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i don't think people have to be annoying about her OBVIOUS problems, with just her wanting to change and really shown that her apologies are not hollow, is already enough.
i don't have to be reminded that she changed by having me DRILLED with a ******* megaphone about it
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I literally ******* told you I was counting the shots AFTER the INITIAL HEAL (which is when she stabs Adam and heals her wound), did you even ******* comprehend my point? What the ****?
Do my words just don’t work? Is this english, pretty sure it is
Also we see the blood is visible under her hair when it is shown to us so any time you said “hair in the way” it should technically be no blood.
Meaning she has the blood for 2 shots at BEST case scenario for YOU, meanwhile EVERY SINGLE OTHER SHOT SHE IS FINE.
Again, COUNTING AFTER THE INITIAL “HEAL”. Why the **** would we count the shots where she JUST got injured, ofc she is ******* bleeding in those shots because they are BEFORE the thing I counted as “healing”
I am done arguing with you
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Got myself some legendary loot (Oh, I guess Val and Vox are there too ig)
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How's the Vees team profile going?
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It'll release after the CRT is done, which needs two changes lists and a Calc eval...
So give it three months.
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I know it's not gonna release anytime soon, I was just curious if it was done, cause other templates have already been posted here.
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If I wanted to post it, I would have already.
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Fair enough.
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DarkLock92
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Was rereading the transcript for season 2 episode 4 and found this quote from Alastor:
Is this implying that Vox was stronger than Zestial, even in the 50s?
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There is no way Alastor meant it in the strength sense considering how massive the gap between them.
He probably meant in terms of a relationship, since Alastor thinks bonds in general are a sign of weakness
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I will point out that all signs do kinda point towards it being a power thing, though it should be pointed out Zestial's time came and gone long before even Alastor showed up.
From everything I could tell Alastor was genuinely enjoying Vox's company and saw him as the only sinner in Hell with the actual potential to reach Alastor's level on their own, despite Rosie's deal. He's most likely weaker than Zestial until late season 2, with the reason Zestial isn't viewed the same way being his long retirement and mindset basically removing any chance at a higher potential
From everything I could tell Alastor was genuinely enjoying Vox's company and saw him as the only sinner in Hell with the actual potential to reach Alastor's level on their own, despite Rosie's deal. He's most likely weaker than Zestial until late season 2, with the reason Zestial isn't viewed the same way being his long retirement and mindset basically removing any chance at a higher potential
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I think you might be right. After all Alastor was startled by Zestial when they met in season 1.
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This is crazy
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He wasn’t. He only was worried after Egg Boiz yapped, which is understandable. Otherwise, his face was chill.
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Pretty sure that’s just durability.There is the obvious problem which is where the whole Invulnerable Angels died from
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Ah, I see. Must have misremembered.
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It is, the point was that the boulder that took her arm which disproved Angelic Invulnerability also acts as a counter against Angelic Regeneration
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By the way, it wouldn’t even be Invulnerability because by new standards you need some sort of “mechanic” for that invulnerability. You can’t just namedrop that and tank everything anymore.
Oh yea, that’s 100%. Also Emily is there too.
(Also I will say that Winners should at least logically have Regen too, since it’d be weird for eternal damnation give Regen but eternal reward not to, although this is unrelated to “invulnerability”)
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Also true
Emily doesn't count since she was hit by Lucifer's angelic blasts, which we considered to have immortality negating properties. So our only examples are Vaggi taking god-knows how long to regrow her wings and Lute just not regrowing her arm. So all examples point towards an, at best, non-combat applicable regen
Since Sinners and Winners are the exact same thing with the only difference being location, I have no major issue with them having it
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Right… bruh. I need to go sleep, it’s so late for me I’m starting to yap smth without thinking twice
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Also Alastor treatened Husk to do the same thing with him, by "ripping your soul and casting it to scream"...so the souls can be "broken" but they are still alive and still screaming...
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Unlikely without context, since that could just be some verse mechanic like from contracts or could be an intended effect of Alastor
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we know that the only thing that can permanently destroy their souls (or kill them)is the angelic weapons, Alastor wants to torture them and make their screams be heard across all of the pentagram, but Alastor also needs to break their souls.
they can break their souls, but it won't permanetly kill them, unlike Angelic weapons, who leave a permanent damage.
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I just think its too early and vague, characters being able to break apart and torture souls isn't unheard of in fiction and doesn't typically grant anything since it's not typical for the actual victim. For example if this was actually applicable for regeneration then why aren't the Overlords regenerating their destroyed souls, especially when Alastor's been inactive for years on end. We need more info
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probably because they are forced to be in a constant stay of screaming, it is like Agni who is constantly burning alive and he STILL regenerates (and his regeneration is able to allow him to regenerate even from ashes)just because you have regeneration, does not mean that you will outregen something if it is constantly torturing you.
and we know that Alastor powers are still active even if he is out
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That's just too much theory crafting for what we have, we have no evidence that they are regenerating, we have no evidence that they are still alive based on their own sinner physiology as opposed to a byproduct of Alastor's power, hell as far as we know they are just straight up dead and Alastor's just using their recorded screams on his broadcast. What you are suggesting is reaching very high levels which has stricter qualifications to apply, trying to argue with what we have right now doesn't seem worth it
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that is absolutely stupid since we KNOW that sinners can only die by angelic weapons and Alastor (obviosly) can't kill them on his own without them.
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Yes, because getting angelic weaponry is totally outside of Alastor's capabilities. We also totally don't have soul destruction as part of Angelic Weapon's reasons for why they kill Sinners in the first place, which totally doesn't act as evidence that their souls being destroyed kills them. Just wait for Season 3 where he's the main villain, we should get more info by then
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