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JJk: Speed, Scaling & Minor AP CRT

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Minor AP stuff
Jogo AP upgrade
Jogo should have Small Town level AP with pyrokinesis due to melting a city block.

Supportive calc addition

Speed
15 f Sukuna speed upgrade
Sukuna's dismantle has been calculated to be Hypersonic. Shibuya Mahoraga should scale to it due to being able to deflect dismantles, Sukuna scales above Mahoraga and Bug Armor Yorozu scales to 16 f Sukuna.
Note that this should be usable due to the anime being canon.

Jogo speed upgrade
This Jogo feat has been recalculated with the anime timeframe and is now Subsonic+. (Got the change accepted in a cgm thread)

Supportive calc addition

Scaling fixes
MBA Kashimo's speed
Base Kashimo is currently Mach 2.79 with Mach 4.6 reactions, while Mythic Beast Amber Kashimo has higher unquantified combat speed. Base Kashimo fought against a weakened Sukuna capable of reacting and stopping his attack but once he transformed into his Mythic Beast Amber form he blitzes this Sukuna. Therefore, MBA Kashimo should scale to the reaction speed of his base form in combat speed and be Mach 4.6.

Toji, Maki and Teen Gojo Town level
Maki could trade blows with a weakened Sukuna, the same weakened Sukuna could also trade blows with Yuji right afterwards, who is Town level. But most importantly, she is narratively comparable to other Town level characters such as Yuta and Hakari due to being one of the heavy hitters.

Toji is equal to Maki so he'd be Town level too. Awakened Teen Gojo would also be Town level in AP with Red.


Agree: Duedate8898
KingTempest
Godernet
Emirp sumitpo (Everything except hypersonic 15f Sukuna)
 
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So Yorozu's gonna stay Class 10 in LS 🥀
Agree with everything except cloud slash because that happened in 2 frames
 
I will overlook Kashimo glaze if this finally allows to upgrade Maki and Toji to where they should be
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Base Kashimo fought against a weakened Sukuna capable of reacting and stopping his attack but once he transformed into his Mythic Beast Amber form he blitzes this Sukuna
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All kashimo did was land a few punches after getting somewhat faster, on a Sukuna who at that point can barely stand, that's not a blitz that would suddenly make him gap all other top tiers 🥀
that's not to mention Sukuna's fluctuating output that is based on his interest, he was initially displeased by kashimo's interference
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That same Sukuna also later dodges Kashimo's attack
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Side note, since MBA Kashimo/Awakend Teen Gojo can blitz those with nearly Hypersonic reactions, can get they Hypersonic combat speeds?
Should also apply to 15/16F Sukuna if the Hypersonic calc isn't accepted
 
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I agree with everyone but not scaling Yorozu relative to 16f sukuna in speed and the new speed calc for Sukuna. She's shown able to keep up with his casual speed as seen when she blocks a kick from him by summoning a sheet of metal before the kick lands. She's actually shown taking the lead in speed after she puts on her armor, so I would argue instead that she'd get an at best faster with her armor to account for her suddenly overwhelming sukuna for a spurt. Especially as she still has to use her CT to actually move the armor she's inside of, so her reactions should still be at the same speed. Yorozu is a character who sits in a weird bubble in the scaling as she only fights Sukuna, but that actually should make it easier for her to scale to Sukuna as it doesn't lead into any conflicts if her stats end up higher in some spots than other relevant characters.


The Mahroaga fight in the anime is very different than the fight in the manga, so I'm not sure if using a feat from essentially a different battle especially with the given scene not existing in the original manga would actually be okay. Someone else might be able to point out why this is fine, but that is my only space of reservation with this CRT
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Lowkenuinely yeah ig
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Duedate8898 said:
I agree with everyone but not scaling Yorozu relative to 16f sukuna in speed and the new speed calc for Sukuna. She's shown able to keep up with his casual speed as seen when she blocks a kick from him by summoning a sheet of metal before the kick lands. She's actually shown taking the lead in speed after she puts on her armor, so I would argue instead that she'd get an at best faster with her armor to account for her suddenly overwhelming sukuna for a spurt. Especially as she still has to use her CT to actually move the armor she's inside of, so her reactions should still be at the same speed. Yorozu is a character who sits in a weird bubble in the scaling as she only fights Sukuna, but that actually should make it easier for her to scale to Sukuna as it doesn't lead into any conflicts if her stats end up higher in some spots than other relevant characters.


The Mahroaga fight in the anime is very different than the fight in the manga, so I'm not sure if using a feat from essentially a different battle especially with the given scene not existing in the original manga would actually be okay. Someone else might be able to point out why this is fine, but that is my only space of reservation with this CRT
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Jjk anime additions are valid apparently
 
Mommyleona said:
All kashimo did was land a few punches after getting somewhat faster, on a Sukuna who at that point can barely stand, that's not a blitz that would suddenly make him gap all other top tiers 🥀
that's not to mention Sukuna's fluctuating output that is based on his interest, he was initially displeased by kashimo's interference
IGEKQN1PZ5Y.jpg


That same Sukuna also later dodges Kashimo's attack
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thats aim dodge because sukuna can see the CE spark but he doesnt react to KASHIMO 🐐🚲
 
Duedate8898 said:
I agree with everyone but not scaling Yorozu relative to 16f sukuna in speed and the new speed calc for Sukuna. She's shown able to keep up with his casual speed as seen when she blocks a kick from him by summoning a sheet of metal before the kick lands. She's actually shown taking the lead in speed after she puts on her armor, so I would argue instead that she'd get an at best faster with her armor to account for her suddenly overwhelming sukuna for a spurt. Especially as she still has to use her CT to actually move the armor she's inside of, so her reactions should still be at the same speed. Yorozu is a character who sits in a weird bubble in the scaling as she only fights Sukuna, but that actually should make it easier for her to scale to Sukuna as it doesn't lead into any conflicts if her stats end up higher in some spots than other relevant characters.
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I agree with this actually
Duedate8898 said:
The Mahroaga fight in the anime is very different than the fight in the manga, so I'm not sure if using a feat from essentially a different battle especially with the given scene not existing in the original manga would actually be okay. Someone else might be able to point out why this is fine, but that is my only space of reservation with this CRT
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The anime is currently accepted as secondary canon and the added scenes are considered usable too. That should make it usable I think.
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Minor AP stuff
Jogo AP upgrade
Jogo should have Small Town level AP with pyrokinesis due to melting a city block.

Supportive calc addition

Speed
15 f Sukuna speed upgrade
Sukuna's dismantle has been calculated to be Hypersonic. Shibuya Mahoraga should scale to it due to being able to deflect dismantles, Sukuna scales above Mahoraga and Bug Armor Yorozu scales to 16 f Sukuna.

Jogo speed upgrade
This Jogo feat has been recalculated with the anime timeframe and is now Subsonic+. (Got the change accepted in a cgm thread)

Supportive calc addition

Scaling fixes
MBA Kashimo's speed
Base Kashimo is currently Mach 2.79 with Mach 4.6 reactions, while Mythic Beast Amber Kashimo has higher unquantified combat speed. Base Kashimo fought against a weakened Sukuna capable of reacting and stopping his attack but once he transformed into his Mythic Beast Amber form he blitzes this Sukuna. Therefore, MBA Kashimo should scale to the reaction speed of his base form in combat speed and be Mach 4.6.

Toji, Maki and Teen Gojo Town level
Maki could trade blows with a weakened Sukuna, the same weakened Sukuna could also trade blows with Yuji right afterwards, who is Town level. But most importantly, she is narratively comparable to other Town level characters such as Yuta and Hakari due to being one of the heavy hitters.

Toji is equal to Maki so he'd be Town level too. Awakened Teen Gojo would also be Town level in AP with Red.
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Hmm… shouldn’t Kashimo get Mhs speed due to being a blitz tier above lightning time kuna… jkjk, but ik that thread is coming soon gang
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Using what as the speed? using any of those numbers would be calc stacking
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And also she literally precog dodges it, also we don’t know all WCS are the same speed since we know Sukuna’s output greatly varies based on opponents(and we, yes we, ALL know maki is a bum)
 
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