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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Don't let dereck know what I said @Huesito88 @EldemadeDityjon my life depends on it.
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To assert that Anos is weak is nothing short of ludicrous—a jest so extravagant that it borders on comedic absurdity. The very moment you suggested that Composite Goku could surpass Anos, it became patently evident that you had egregiously trivialized his capabilities. Indeed, if Composite Goku were to attempt to engage with Anos—ah, but therein lies the rub—he cannot.


Anos transcends layered nothingness, duality, and causality, concepts so far beyond the metaphysical architecture of Dragon Ball that Composite Goku remains woefully incapable of even perceiving his existence, let alone contesting him. These transcendental strata of reality render Anos an entity beyond the very framework in which Composite Goku operates. The notion that Goku could possibly stand against him is a fallacy so profound that it borders on the grotesque. In the grand calculus of power scaling, Anos obliterates the entire Dragon Ball cosmology without even exerting himself—his victory is an incontrovertible inevitability.


Moreover, many of the characters invoked in this discourse possess at least High Outerversal scaling, figures of such unfathomable magnitude that even Yogiri Takatou finds himself incapable of surmounting them. Why, then, would Anos be compelled to? He effortlessly negates the entire Fate pantheon—Shiki being the sole exception. To brand Anos as “weak” without possessing even a cursory understanding of the esoteric hierarchies in which these characters reside is not merely a miscalculation; it is an indictment of one’s fundamental lack of comprehension regarding power scaling at its most intricate levels.


Anos exists beyond the very fabric of nothingness, duality, and causality, an ontological supremacy so absolute that not a single entity within the Dragon Ball multiverse can so much as acknowledge his presence. His mere gaze, imbued with the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction, would unravel the entire verse, while the might of Venuzdonoa would erase it from existence in an instant, as though it had never been.


Anos Voldigoad is not simply an unparalleled sovereign within his own domain; he is a force of transcendence incarnate, an existence of unfathomable magnitude. Within The Misfit of Demon King Academy, he operates at a tier so astronomically beyond conventional comprehension that only figures of Graham’s ilk approach his level. To deny this is not merely ignorance—it is folly of the highest order.
 
To assert that Anos is weak is nothing short of ludicrous—a jest so extravagant that it borders on comedic absurdity. The very moment you suggested that Composite Goku could surpass Anos, it became patently evident that you had egregiously trivialized his capabilities. Indeed, if Composite Goku were to attempt to engage with Anos—ah, but therein lies the rub—he cannot.


Anos transcends layered nothingness, duality, and causality, concepts so far beyond the metaphysical architecture of Dragon Ball that Composite Goku remains woefully incapable of even perceiving his existence, let alone contesting him. These transcendental strata of reality render Anos an entity beyond the very framework in which Composite Goku operates. The notion that Goku could possibly stand against him is a fallacy so profound that it borders on the grotesque. In the grand calculus of power scaling, Anos obliterates the entire Dragon Ball cosmology without even exerting himself—his victory is an incontrovertible inevitability.


Moreover, many of the characters invoked in this discourse possess at least High Outerversal scaling, figures of such unfathomable magnitude that even Yogiri Takatou finds himself incapable of surmounting them. Why, then, would Anos be compelled to? He effortlessly negates the entire Fate pantheon—Shiki being the sole exception. To brand Anos as “weak” without possessing even a cursory understanding of the esoteric hierarchies in which these characters reside is not merely a miscalculation; it is an indictment of one’s fundamental lack of comprehension regarding power scaling at its most intricate levels.


Anos exists beyond the very fabric of nothingness, duality, and causality, an ontological supremacy so absolute that not a single entity within the Dragon Ball multiverse can so much as acknowledge his presence. His mere gaze, imbued with the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction, would unravel the entire verse, while the might of Venuzdonoa would erase it from existence in an instant, as though it had never been.


Anos Voldigoad is not simply an unparalleled sovereign within his own domain; he is a force of transcendence incarnate, an existence of unfathomable magnitude. Within The Misfit of Demon King Academy, he operates at a tier so astronomically beyond conventional comprehension that only figures of Graham’s ilk approach his level. To deny this is not merely ignorance—it is folly of the highest order.
This makes sense to me. Although, I disagree. Cope.
 
So source wank caught. We no longer wank. How can wankers wank if no wank? I believe rules is too strict here for wankers to survive. We need reforms here in rules. Wankers are humans too. They dignity too (except @EldemadeDityjon ).
 
maybe we should have waited for time till we could discuss magical blueprint IM2 again cause with essence thing order,source and magical blueprint all three could possibly qualify for IM2(if it can qualify)
like order being reason why world is world,demon is demon etc.
source being what makes who they are
magic blueprint being what makes magic ,magic (tho official tl messed up this part ,we have wiki translation)
but all share this "why something is what it is"
At its core, magic has a magic formula/procedure that makes it... magic. Its the blueprint for magic, so to speak. The pure white magical sword goes around/through magic nullifying it entirely, by severing the method/procedure.
 
So source wank caught. We no longer wank. How can wankers wank if no wank? I believe rules is too strict here for wankers to survive. We need reforms here in rules. Wankers are humans too. They dignity too (except @EldemadeDityjon ).
I think some soul baited Bambu to thinking that previous thread and current thread are same 😵‍💫
Anyway I have full trust in Darkgrath fair evaluation so I'll wait and DT comment does seems like he doesn't agree nor disagree so let's see if he will take another look.
 
Anyway I have full trust in Darkgrath fair evaluation so I'll wait and DT comment does seems like he doesn't agree nor disagree so let's see if he will take another look.
Be safe and consider him disagree. Though, his one line input doesn't seems efficient or sufficient way to argue anything in detail. More inputs or exchange of quotes were supposed to happen. But welp.
 
Be safe and consider him disagree. Though, his one line input doesn't seems efficient or sufficient way to argue anything in detail. More inputs or exchange of quotes were supposed to happen. But welp.
Yeah put him under Disagree for now. Could you tag Firestorm in the thread if you don't mind.
 
like order being reason why world is world,demon is demon etc.
This is about the Order defined on the object, which is part of the scale of order as a concept. Memory is information so it can be upgraded to IM2, but Order is not seen as information anywhere.
 
Should we upgrade the source again?
-Memory is IM2
-Feelings are more abstract than memories, may even be a fundamental aspect of memory.
"No. Memories lost in reincarnation cannot be retrieved even with Eviy. And since feelings are even more abstract than memories, there are no spells that could assist us in retrieving feelings either."
- Source is the most fundamental aspect of character and is therefore more fundamental/abstract than feelings.
 
I think some soul baited Bambu to thinking that previous thread and current thread are same 😵‍💫
Anyway I have full trust in Darkgrath fair evaluation so I'll wait and DT comment does seems like he doesn't agree nor disagree so let's see if he will take another look.
This isn't breaking the rules or anything but I really don't like having my shit framed as the manipulations of some other user. I'm actually very capable of making mistakes all on my own from time to time, and you can't really blame me- the first two paragraphs of the thing are counterarguments to the previous thread, applied to this thread. That last thread being a particularly egregious case, and this being a particularly egregious verse, I closed it before I should have. Now it's open, eh? So on we go.
 
PIPIPIPIPI. Pregunta, tienes Fe al anime de Ruphas? Porque a Yogiri parece que solo los scalers lo vieron. Hasta Anos en su S1 gente ajena al scaling le llamo la atención.
Yo creo que si, puede pasar como Tensei slime que se volvio un isekai roto famoso, de todos modos tampoco me agrada mucho la idea, pues ruphas tmabién se volveria un tema candente en powerscaling mas de lo q es ahora
 
This isn't breaking the rules or anything but I really don't like having my shit framed as the manipulations of some other user. I'm actually very capable of making mistakes all on my own from time to time, and you can't really blame me- the first two paragraphs of the thing are counterarguments to the previous thread, applied to this thread. That last thread being a particularly egregious case, and this being a particularly egregious verse, I closed it before I should have. Now it's open, eh? So on we go.
My apologies. I thought someone had called you there, and you closed the thread because of that. It's rare for you to give input on a thread where no one requested it. Anyway, my apologies again for the misunderstanding.
 
This is about the Order defined on the object, which is part of the scale of order as a concept. Memory is information so it can be upgraded to IM2, but Order is not seen as information anywhere.
order defines what-ness of the object and that what-ness is IM2 not order itself
 
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