The Fiend vs. Guts (WWE vs Berserk) (Grace)

[Adem_Warlock69]

• Both are 9-A
• Pre-Eclipse Guts is used
• Speed will be equalized
• Battle takes place in a WWE ring
• No Prep Time or Information of each other
• Both start on opposite sides of the ring

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VS

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The Fiend:
Guts: 7 (Magicomethkuon, Artorimachi_Meteoraft, Mariogoods, Doggo, Naitodesu, EnnardTrap1987, Adem_Warlock69)
Incon:

 

[azontr]

The ****

 

[RandomGuy2345]

 

[Pikaman]

Ok, so what are Guts’ defences against The Fiend’s instant win options (BFR, Mind Control, etc.)?

 

[azontr]

Guts resists Mind Control via resisting Femto's gay aura, which can make people coom for him instantly(not a joke).

How does the BFR work?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Guts resists Mind Control via resisting Femto's gay aura, which can make people coom for him instantly(not a joke).

That sounds more like Biological Manip than Mind Manip tho

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That sounds more like Biological Manip than Mind Manip

Sexuality Manipulation

 

[azontr]

It's a memey expression.

Femto's aura can make people, even people who hate the man and want to kill and overthrow him, instantly want to do his bidding and submit to him passively. It's mind/empathic manipulation.

 

[Pikaman]

Guts resists Mind Control via resisting Femto's gay aura, which can make people coom for him instantly(not a joke).

How does the BFR work?

Man this is why I don’t debate Beserk

 

[azontr]

You should read it though, it's a masterpiece.

 

[Pikaman]

How does the BFR work?

Teleports you away to God knows where, replaces you with a member of the Wyatt Family sometimes

 

[azontr]

Teleports you away to God knows where, replaces you with a member of the Wyatt Family sometimes

And does he do this in fights/IC? Can I see an example?

 

[Pikaman]

And does he do this in fights/IC? Can I see an example?

2:23 here

 

[RandomGuy2345]

2:23 here

Damn that's actually useful asf lol.

 

[azontr]

Doesn't look like he starts with it, to me. Or uses it against his opponents since he didn't use it against Randy Orton.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Doesn't look like he starts with it, to me. Or uses it against his opponents since he didn't use it against Randy Orton.

1. He used it on Kane (his opponent).
2. He probably won't start with it tbf.

 

[azontr]

Kane wasn't in the ring. He was fighting Randy at the moment, and Kane was about to be tagged in.

 

[Pikaman]

Doesn't look like he starts with it, to me. Or uses it against his opponents since he didn't use it against Randy Orton.

Oh he far from starts with it, there’s plenty of matches he doesn’t use it at all, it’s just something he can whip out and it wary of

Bray Wyatt and Orion were enemies at the time of this match, he BFR’ed Kane, Randy’s ally and teammate

 

[azontr]

If it's not in-character for Wyatt to use as you're both painting it, I'll stop arguing.

How does he deal with the 7 ft long gigantic buster sword.

 

[Pikaman]

How does he deal with the 7 ft long gigantic buster sword.

Probably doesn’t tbf

The Fiend does have immortality, and it’s more reliable than The Demon’s, but uhhh still no evidence it can withstand that amount of destruction

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Should've done The Undertaker smh.

 

[azontr]

Guess it would just come down to skill, then.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Guess it would just come down to skill, then.

Then Guts wins easily.

 

[azontr]

Does he? We haven't even had a debate.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Does he? We haven't even had a debate.

Guts is far more skilled than The Fiend. End of story.

 

[azontr]

Okay but... why? What makes you come to that conclusion? Again, we've literally never debated about it.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

How does he deal with the 7 ft long gigantic buster sword.

Fiend's Teleportation could help? He did teleport under Daniel Bryan that one time

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Okay but... why? What makes you come to that conclusion? Again, we've literally never debated about it.

He's not any more skilled than The Demon imo, but ig we can debate it yes.

 

[azontr]

We never even had a skill debate in the Finn match, so, idk why you're bringing that up?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

We never even had a skill debate in the Finn match, so, idk why you're bringing that up?

Deadass?

I thought we established Guts outskills lol.

Forget what I said then.

 

[azontr]

Literally nobody said anything even remotely correlated to skill lmfao.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Literally nobody said anything even remotely correlated to skill lmfao.

Sorry...

 

[azontr]

Dumbass.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

azontr everytime I apologize to him:

 

[azontr]

Wrong, that's me to literally everyone.

 

[Pikaman]

Should've done The Undertaker smh.

Even Taker doesn’t have much, I think Guts may solo the verse tbh

 

[azontr]

If Wyatt really doesn't have much going for him, then it'd be better to use Pre-Eclipse Guts who doesn't have DS and arm cannon.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Even Taker doesn’t have much, I think Guts may solo the verse tbh

Even more serotonin for the Berserk supporters.

Wrong, that's me to literally everyone.

Oddly true.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

If Wyatt really doesn't have much going for him, then it'd be better to use Pre-Eclipse Guts who doesn't have DS and arm cannon.

Wouldn't Fiend stomp then?

 

[azontr]

Wouldn't Fiend stomp then?

Lmao no? Why would he?

Guts has an AP advantage, a LUDICROUS stamina advantage, and potentially comparable skill and mobility. And Wyatt doesn't even start with his strong hax, half of which Guts resists.

Taking away Guts' main advantages in fact makes this match reasonably fair.