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One Piece AP review

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A long time ago there was a discussion about the deeds in the red movie being canon, but nobody took it any further, but now it could be accepted, because oda has attached notes to guide the animators, as well as revising the script, saying that the information is canon.
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That said, we have the planetary quote from the music tot:

その禍々しく強 大な力は世界を壊滅させる ほどと言われ
Its sinister and powerful power is said to be capable of destroying the world.

Not only that, the tot music actually accomplished this feat of destroying the world by destroying the uta world:



Which also puts Whitebeard's quote into context, there's no reason for it to be said that tot música can destroy the world and he has the ability to destroy it in one attack while Whitebeard can't do the same.

In addition, Uta also comes into this, as it is able to maintain the uta world through physical strength, which would have the planet of one piece itself.

ウタウタの世界。 の維持には膨大な体力が必要で、通常はすぐ限界に 達し、眠りに落ちて能力は解除される。
Translation:
Uta World. Requires enormous physical strength to maintain and usually reaches its limit quickly, falls asleep and the skill is canceled.

世界 (sekai) - World (used to refer to the physical world).
体力 (tairyoku) - Physical strength.


Finally, we also have feats like the black hole Blackbeard: (calculated as dwarf star in the wiki)

The mother flame feat calculated as a large planet:
 
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What do either of these have to do with the rest of the OP? Blackbeard's calc there isn't accepted on his profile, and the Mother Flame scales to nobody.
I'm assuming probably because of it not being an outlier or something
 
I'm assuming probably because of it not being an outlier or something
I'm assuming that too but they'd have to be in some way related to the relevant scaling chains. For example, a potentially 5-A statement for one character doesn't automatically become less of a potential outlier just because the Mother Flame also happens to be 5-A. They'd be two completely unrelated statistics.
 
Tot Musica's destruction of Uta World doesn't necessarily scale to its physicals. It actually has a more impressive feat than just destroying Uta world in the movie, which is merging Uta World and the real world iirc. Which would be Low Multi environmental destruction.
 
I don't see what you're proposing we change about the profiles.
 
Ok

I don't care for this thread nor do I care to implement it, but let's not act like the feat in the movie isn't scaleable

Tot Musica literally destroyed the Uta World's land by flapping its wings, a ridiculous physical feat. Let's not downplay it and say "overtime".
 
If we do want to quantify Tot Musica's feat then I guess just do pulv of the planet or something. Idk who it'd be canonically scaleable to since it took Tot Musica's absolute strongest form to pull this feat off
 
Also kind of funny how folks are saying that Whitebeard's "destroy the world" wouldn't have taken place in a short timeframe even though people all over the world were shaking in fear of the possibility of it not existing after the war if Whitebeard wished.
Yeah, but we gotta realize that's after a full-scale war, with the guy moving around at FTL speeds, that doesn't mean he's got 5-B physicals or whatever. That's all I'm saying.
 
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If we do want to quantify Tot Musica's feat then I guess just do pulv of the planet or something. Idk who it'd be canonically scaleable to since it took Tot Musica's absolute strongest form to pull this feat off
Do we have any evidence of it scaling to anyone except for that version of Tot Musica?
 
Tot Musica exists in both Uta World and the real world simultaneously; yet it didn't destroy the real world with a flap of its wings. It seems a little bit more likely to me that it simply messed with the nature of Uta world which is not unlike a dream that people's consciousness is sent to, hence why it wasn't just the land and sea that disappeared but the sky as well. (Plus nobody seemed to be harmed/affected by Tot Musica altering the surroundings so it doesn't seem like a purely physical force being projected outward)
 
Isn't it literally a dream, though?
It's another dimension entered by people from when their subconscious is transferred into a new temporary body in a dream, which is why they can use Haki. It's another physical world.
 
It's another dimension entered by people from when their subconscious is transferred into a new temporary body in a dream, which is why they can use Haki. It's another physical world.
WHAT?! That's insane, what were the writing team on? That is almost completely unnecessary.
 
The OP never said shit about this scaling.
Which also puts Whitebeard's quote into context, there's no reason for it to be said that tot música can destroy the world and he has the ability to destroy it in one attack while Whitebeard can't do the same.

In addition, Uta also comes into this, as it is able to maintain the uta world through physical strength, which would have the planet of one piece itself.
This implies Whitebeard should be able to do the same, which could only be derived from scaling.

Don't question my disagreement for no good reason just because you didn't understand it.
 
He is trying to use this feat and argue it provides more context to the Whitebeard feat, which if accepted, would cause all of the current 5-C ratings to be upgraded since they all derive their scaling from that feat. He didn't specifically comment on it scaling, but he's heavily implying it.
 
I'm disregarding your disagreement because it was a random disagreement based on nothing but feeling.
"The fact y'all are even entertaining this is absolutely insane."

Anyways

I'm fine with Tot Musica's feat, I disagree with it scaling to Whitebeard, and idk how this would even work since it's a semi-canon feat
 
He is trying to use this feat and argue it provides more context to the Whitebeard feat, which if accepted, would cause all of the current 5-C ratings to be upgraded since they all derive their scaling from that feat. He didn't specifically comment on it scaling, but he's heavily implying it.

That was my impression of the OP, yah, though I don't see any connection between Tot Musica and Whitebeard that we can use on the profiles.
 
I'm fine with Tot Musica's feat, I disagree with it scaling to Whitebeard
Same from what I've seen

But isn't that what the op said/implied also?
Which also puts Whitebeard's quote into context, there's no reason for it to be said that tot música can destroy the world and he has the ability to destroy it in one attack while Whitebeard can't do the same.
I think if i understand correctly, he's trying to differentiate whitebeard's "Destroy the World" to Tot Musica's "Destroy the World" but not fully sure

Edit: Wait... I think I've read it wrong... By reading it quicker I can see how it implies Whitebeard can possibly do the same? 🙉 idk
 
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Tot Musica can destroy the world in 2 ways
#1 Cause mass chaos cause he can send everybody to another dimension and basically ruin the structure of the world
#2 Destroy a separate dimension

Whitebeard can just make ridiculous quakes.

It's all skepticism. We can't say that since one statement in-verse says someone can destroy the world that all other "destroy the world" statements work the exact same way. Poseidon can "destroy the world" by sinking all the islands in the world. Doesn't mean she can nuke it.
 
I'm disregarding your disagreement because-
You said I didn't read it based nothing. You don't disregard anything, and you also don't assume why people disagree with anything.
I'm fine with Tot Musica's feat, I disagree with it scaling to Whitebeard, and idk how this would even work since it's a semi-canon feat
Huh, I thought OP "didn't say shit about scaling". Funny.

Avoid interacting with me in the future unless you need to address arguments I've made.
 
I think that some part of the thread´s comments are due to OP´s don´t explain the thread very well (Something that i don´t think is his fault tbh)

The proposal is simple: 4-C One Piece

The arguments for that is:
  1. Tot Musica being able to destroy Uta´s world, which is an exact replica of OP´s planet
  2. Uta being supposedly capable of maintaining Uta´s world through physical strength
  3. Whitebeard statements about being able to destroy the OP´s world
  4. Other stuff In-Verse showing levels of power not so distant from the AP proposed in the thread, such as Blackbeard High 5-A´s black hole and the Mother Flame seaquakes
While some stuff such as "Which also puts Whitebeard's quote into context, there's no reason for it to be said that tot música can destroy the world and he has the ability to destroy it in one attack while Whitebeard can't do the same" also doesn´t makes much sense for me, the thread is pretty much what i described above
 
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I believe that the Uta and Tot Musica scaling should be used but I doubt it gives credibility to other statements like Whitebeard or Blackbeard
 
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