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Both at 2-C

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Super Sonic: 7 (ShadowWarrior1999, Maverick Zero X, VioletVoid100, Stamina Control, Starter Pack, Blueblur24, ShakeResounding)

Bomberma: 0

Inconclusive: 0

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Even with Bomberman's resistance to space-time manipulation, Sonic has vastly superior range and can use Color powers such as Indigo Asteroid which can tear Bomberman to shreds. Definitely going with Sonic here.
 
Sonic via Color Powers (specifically Violet Void and Indigo Asteroid), Sealing, and Transmutation
 
Indigo Asteroid and Violet Void are countered by Gravity Bombs. Also, isn't Sonic primarily a melee fighter? Like, to a massive extent? If anything, he should be the one being outranged.

Also, Bomberman should have the AP advantage.
 
Oh yeah, definitely Sonic FRA.

On second thought, let me take a second look and see which one would probably win.
 
The real cal howard said:
Indigo Asteroid and Violet Void are countered by Gravity Bombs. Also, isn't Sonic primarily a melee fighter? Like, to a massive extent? If anything, he should be the one being outranged.

Also, Bomberman should have the AP advantage.
Low multiversal range with abilities says otherwise. Bomberman's range is planetary.

How does Bomberman have the AP advantage?
 
That's for like, Chaos Control only. Why it doesn't specify what abilities is beyond me when that implies that his color powers and the like have 2-C range, which is ridiculous. Someone needs to change it.

Both are scaled to pretty much the same thing. Solaris's feat is the same as Bomberman's bad guy's feat. Difference is, Bomberman did t on his own, while Sonic's is divided by three.
 
The real cal howard said:
Violet Void should be more efficient than the Gravity Bombs since it allows Sonic to embody a black hole and move around freely while GBs merely create black holes with a centralized area (which can easily be evaded with Sonic's teleportion). Also, Sonic has shown to be more than willing to use ranged abilities on numerous occasions.
 
The real cal howard said:
Solaris's feat is the same as Bomberman's bad guy's feat. Difference is, Bomberman did it on his own, while Sonic's is divided by three.
Nah. Sonic only needed S. Shadow/Silver due to Solaris' temporal omnipresence. The Hedgehogs fought their own Solaris in different time periods (past, present, and future) and could damage him with their own individual attacks.
 
The real cal howard said:
That's for like, Chaos Control only. Why it doesn't specify what abilities is beyond me when that implies that his color powers and the like have 2-C range, which is ridiculous. Someone needs to change it.

Both are scaled to pretty much the same thing. Solaris's feat is the same as Bomberman's bad guy's feat. Difference is, Bomberman did t on his own, while Sonic's is divided by three.
Eh, the fact that his Chaos abilities do have low multiversal range is why he gets that.

Thing is, Solaris was omnipresent through time so Shadow had to fight him in the past, Sonic in the present, and Silver in the future.
 
@Maverick. Not how it works. You'd have to prove that each individual fraction of Solaris is 2-C.

Granted, I'm only playing Iblis's advocate right now lol.

@SW. I highly doubt Chaos Spear has 2-C range.
 
I mean... they're all the same being. Just in different time periods.

You'd have to prove that each Solaris is somehow weaker than the other.
 
The real cal howard said:
Not how it works. You'd have to prove that each individual fraction of Solaris is 2-C.
No matter how you divide a 2-C feat, it would still be a 2-C feat. If Sonic, Shadow, and Silver were anything less than 2-C then they wouldn't have been able to harm him. There's also the fact that it was never stated how many timelines there were as Eggman only said he'd consume "all existing timelines."
 
@Maverick. Burden of proof's not on me. While obviously, Solaris is 2-C, he's the same 2-C being regardless, as he's omnipresent. I'm the same way that the Legendary Birds are 1/3 Lugia, the Hedgehogs are 1/3 Solaris.

@Shadow. See above. Divide a 2-C feat and ya still a lesser degree of 2-C than it used to be.
 
The real cal howard said:
Divide a 2-C feat and ya still a lesser degree of 2-C than it used to be.
I'm not seeing why this feat has to be divided though. Each Super Hog took on Solaris in single combat. They did not combine their attacks or fight in complete unison.
 
On an unrelated note, I find it odd how Solaris is omnipresent yet he's only the size of a building. You'd think he'd have multiverse size in order to encompass all past, present, and future timelines since it's made clear that it's the same Solaris due to his transcendent nature.
 
The real cal howard said:
Egg man said that Solaris was anchored down to this dimension, so that could be the reason.
Anchored down because LOL plot.

Seriously, it's never mentioned what was anchoring Solaris.
 
Stuff being rejected in the first comment & adding no evidence to what was accepted doesn't tell me positive things about it.
 
Sonic has a lot of good hax to put Bomberman down. He can convert him into matter via Indigo Asteroid, Violet Void (nuff said really), give him fear of losing this fight, his elemenatal attacks can counter Bomberman's along with his shields, can transmutate him into some rings, seal him, etc. A lot of those attacks negate durability too and he has good range and can further enhance his stats via golden gloves and Chaos Control. And even though he has resistance to spacetime manipulation, it's only a resistance, not an immunity. Plus, Sonic has infinite stamina due to his Super Form. Bomberman can fight for DAYS, but Super Sonic can fight FOREVER. So Bomberman would get tired and would get hit by Super Sonic's Chaos Control in due time. With those hax, range, and skill Sonic has, I can say Sonic wins in my opinion with mid to high diff.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
All profiles with tier 2 and above keys are locked.
X and Geo Stelar's profiles were locked and they aren't even close to Tier 2.

Also asked "Who has Sonic's page on lockdown" not "What profiles are on lockdown"
 
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