Yor Briar vs Albert Wesker (4-0-0)

[Peppersalt43]

ALTERNATE TITLE: THORNS IN THE RAIN​

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RE Matches are still possible thankfully. Let's see if this goes more smoothly than Chisato vs Mr. X

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Spoiler: Story Below

Trapped in the realm of The Entity, Wesker found himself in quite the predicament. On one hand, he gets to kill all those who had wronged him over and over and over again while also watching them helplessly suffer against the terrors of the killers. On the other hand, he cannot be king in this realm, at least not any time soon. He had plans for that of course but any new suggestions are welcome. After all, he was more ambitious than he was petty and the killers can torture his enemies while he's gone.

Then that fateful day arrived when that red-garbed agent arrived and beat the shit out of Ji-Woon, somehow escaping the Entity's grasp afterward. Out of intrigue, he volunteered to investigate the occurence with The Entity's approval, unaware of his schemes. Later when Herman was attacked, Wesker managed to board a ride through the portal, discovering a fascinating realm under rules similar to what he had experienced. Yet he had no attachments to these lowly folk and with some convincing, he managed to escape though he didn't end up in the right place...

The lab was dark and quiet at night, researchers having left already. Yet Wesker stayed, having achieved most of his achievements back in his world. In the days where tensions were rising, a horrific bioweapon is in full demand. He currently sat in his lab, cleaning his firearms while finishing up the simulations for the recapture of Project 007. Based on past experiences, he knew at any moment, someone will come for his life, and one did.

"Oh, I remember you. The mother..." he said, the door already opened.
"We never should've let you go" Yor replied, her blade ready.

"I assume you're here for the atrocities I'm about to commit? I assume you've heard the 'genocide for the greater good' speech a million times, have you? With your line of work you will. Which is fine, I don't want to strain myself for you" the mastermind said, putting on his sunglasses. It was only then did the thorn princess notice the earplugs in his ears but it was too late. With a single twitch of a foot, Wesker triggered a nearby grenade trap though it was instead outfitted with a flashbang, blinding and deafening Yor instantly but temporarily.

"I miss the Uroboros. But, this will have to do" the mastermind said, injecting a vial of progenitor virus into himself. At this point, his opponent was still a bit disoriented though already recovered but it was too late. Yor felt herself being lifted by the neck, a familiar feeling for the mastermind.

"Playtime is over~" he said before tossing her out the office and then dropping down.

Death is no escape

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• Pre-Virus Wesker used
• Speed equalized
• Place Located in: Los Santos International Airport

• Starting Distance: 10 Meters
• Wesker has a month of preparation
• Win via anything!!
• The Thorn Princess : 4
• The Mastermind : 0
• Incon : 0

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VS

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Whats the AP on both?

 

[KobsterHope07]

Whats the AP on both?

^ Ditto on this

Yor got pretty good senses with her IR, EA and ES, making it hard for Albert to shoot her. Not to mention, she got mobility in the form of Acrobatics and Afterimage Creation. She got Aura to instill fear in people and hamper their performance. Poison probably won't be effective (don't know), but her fighting style of stabbing vital points and her pressure points will make her a highly dangerous opponent to face in close combat

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

^ Ditto on this

Yor got pretty good senses with her IR, EA and ES, making it hard for Albert to shoot her. Not to mention, she got mobility in the form of Acrobatics and Afterimage Creation. She got Aura to instill fear in people and hamper their performance. Poison probably won't be effective (don't know), but her fighting style of stabbing vital points and her pressure points will make her a highly dangerous opponent to face in close combat

low-mid regen say hi

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

also fear only get affect to some extend like when she show her fear aura to someone weaker,you really think some ******* madness guy create the super virus to become a god to dominate all human fear some human

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

^ Ditto on this

Yor got pretty good senses with her IR, EA and ES, making it hard for Albert to shoot her. Not to mention, she got mobility in the form of Acrobatics and Afterimage Creation.

and this,wesker doesn't have burst IR like yor but his other thing should be very hard to make yor handle too,consider re old profile is super extremely outdated consider that there rarely fight in verse

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Wesker is like too durable for her plus the regen out of all i saw, yet Yor is more skilled and trained in comparison and will be harder to hit cuz of her senses, reactions and all that

This is pretty much a fight of one opponent is almost impossible to land a hit on, while the other cant be harmed regardless of how much you do

This will come down to stamina, which i think its debatable, not entirely sure which is better

 

[KobsterHope07]

Wesker is like too durable for her plus the regen out of all i saw, yet Yor is more skilled and trained in comparison and will be harder to hit cuz of her senses, reactions and all that

Whether Albert is too durable depends on the AP difference. I can’t find what the Resident Evil 9-A scale to. If they scales to baseline, then Yor has a 2.8x advantage due to being 0.0144139992 Tons

 

[AnonymousBlank]

From what I am seeing, Wesker is baseline via upscaling from 9-B+ so Yor fear haxes and pressure points before shanking him through the head.

 

[Dalesean027]

Holy shit this is a thing!? Following

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Whether Albert is too durable depends on the AP difference. I can’t find what the Resident Evil 9-A scale to. If they scales to baseline, then Yor has a 2.8x advantage due to being 0.0144139992 Tons

wesker scale massively above 0.02370535554795 and if you guy want to know where that calc here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AguilaR101/Resident_Evil_Remake_Feats
wesker have the virus that stronger than the g virus and t virus whom is stronger than the T-002 who did the above feat,that why I said the verse is very outdated bruh,

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

From what I am seeing, Wesker is baseline via upscaling from 9-B+ so Yor fear haxes and pressure points before shanking him through the head.

Depending on the user and medium, Fear Manipulation can occasionally be depicted as a power which can be overcome with bravery, willpower and courage.
wesker is a genius that use the virus to dominate the human,and consider that there is a ton thing in RE is scarier than some yor fear aura how can you consider that fear can fear wesker ?

 

[Peppersalt43]

wesker have the virus that stronger than the g virus and t virus whom is stronger than the T-002 who did the above feat,that why I said the verse is very outdated bruh,

Wait, but that feat is already on T-002's page

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Wait, but that feat is already on T-002's page

yes and

 

[Peppersalt43]

yes and

That means it's usable

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

That means it's usable

yeah I mean what letter I said that the feat can't be used

 

[Dalesean027]

Also why are we assuming automatically that Yor is more skilled? Wesker like Yor has years of combat experience being a member of S.T.A.R.S which is an elite special force comprised of Ex-Military personnel and academic experts people who are truely gifted combatants and tacticians, Chris and Jill themselves have a pretty damn good track record in H2H combat skills and the variety of threats they've face compared to Yor even in just the first entry in the Resident Evil series with Wesker still being comparable to them (obviously ik he was fake asf on that team going in under umbrellas order but still it's not as much of a close combat stomp as people seem to think)

 

[KobsterHope07]

wesker scale massively above 0.02370535554795 and if you guy want to know where that calc here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AguilaR101/Resident_Evil_Remake_Feats
wesker have the virus that stronger than the g virus and t virus whom is stronger than the T-002 who did the above feat,that why I said the verse is very outdated bruh,

But that is not on the profile. I went through many profiles that is linked in Albert’s profile and none of them say anything about scaling to that feat AP wise unless I miss it

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

anyway gonna debate,wesker have ap advantage (1.6x different and if we use some scaling it way more higher),my guy have resistance to poison and have low-mid regen already prevent yor pressure point and poison,and since the wesker profile was outdated, gonna make you guy watch this ,there are ton of vid that show wesker skill and more but the fricking game have so many sequel so I can't find them,this is the easiest vid that I can find to show you guy
also wesker have more LS like almost 16 ton why yor seem to have only 7.7ton,here is the LS calc of wesker https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DarkDragonMedeus/Leon_S_Kennedy_Pushes_a_Boulder
you guy want to ask why wesker scale to 16 while leon only scale to 8 ton,here reason,chris likely punch and push the same boulder like leon and helena did,so he should be 16 ton,and wesker physically is way stronger than chris

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Whether Albert is too durable depends on the AP difference. I can’t find what the Resident Evil 9-A scale to. If they scales to baseline, then Yor has a 2.8x advantage due to being 0.0144139992 Tons

I saw Wesker has high 8-C dura unless i seen wrong

Also why are we assuming automatically that Yor is more skilled? Wesker like Yor has years of combat experience being a member of S.T.A.R.S which is an elite special force comprised of Ex-Military personnel and academic experts people who are truely gifted combatants and tacticians, Chris and Jill themselves have a pretty damn good track record in H2H combat skills and the variety of threats they've face compared to Yor even in just the first entry in the Resident Evil series with Wesker still being comparable to them (obviously ik he was fake asf on that team going in under umbrellas order but still it's not as much of a close combat stomp as people seem to think)

Honestly Yor stuff is more impressive and shown more often compared to Wesker or resident evil from what i remember in cutscenes, even if they RE has more merit to it, i view her as a way better fighter

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

But that is not on the profile. I went through many profiles that is linked in Albert’s profile and none of them say anything about scaling to that feat AP wise unless I miss it

because the profile is fricking outdated bruh,If you play the game( or you not then I'm sorry) then you should know that T-002 is the first protype of titan and the weakest titan since he just been create,then we have T virus T-103 who is a complete tyrant and should be way stronger the T-002,and blah,and consider that wesker inject him with the T virus,he should be likely stronger than them

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

I saw Wesker has high 8-C dura unless i seen wrong

now you ask me,it is that wesker tank the high 8-C rocket launcher right into his face,even though he have been down some sec,he can get up and fight

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Honestly Yor stuff is more impressive and shown more often compared to Wesker or resident evil from what i remember in cutscenes, even if they RE has more merit to it, i view her as a way better fighter

can she do this ?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

can she do this ?

If you mean acrobatics like him and such, yes, she can from what i seen of her as of now

 

[KobsterHope07]

I saw Wesker has high 8-C dura unless i seen wrong

No, you are not seeing wrong, he is… this is a stomp then

because the profile is fricking outdated bruh,If you play the game( or you not then I'm sorry) then you should know that T-002 is the first protype of titan and the weakest titan since he just been create,then we have T virus T-103 who is a complete tyrant and should be way stronger the T-002,and blah,and consider that wesker inject him with the T virus,he should be likely stronger than them

Then it is up to the supporters to fix and update profiles.

Not my problem if it is outdated and being used in a match and since the profile does not make mention of him scaling to that feat, he just don’t. Make a CRT and change it

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

If you mean acrobatics like him and such, yes, she can from what i seen of her as of now

no.the stuff that he can dissapear from a moment and dodge the bullet,i create the stamp in that vid

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Thats speed related which is irrelevant cuz speed is =

That aint skill, thats reaction

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Thats speed related which is irrelevant cuz speed is =

That aint skill, thats reaction

well...still I don't see how yor stuff is better though,the only thing she have over wesker is the burst IR which already cover anything.... ,bruh I'm just cope

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

anyway it stomp already,wesker have the high 8-C dura,if someone want to debate more,welcome :v

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Like look up her profile on the skill stuff, she even gave trouble to one of the best spies when drunk in a h2h fight and outdone him too, if it wasnt for her shoe to break and pass out, he would have been done

well...still I don't see how yor stuff is better though,the only thing she have over wesker is the burst IR which already cover anything.... ,bruh I'm just cope

 

[Harith0cell]

Should we use remake nemesis to make more fair?

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Like look up her profile on the skill stuff, she even gave trouble to one of the best spies when drunk in a h2h fight and outdone him too, if it wasnt for her shoe to break and pass out, he would have been done

that why I hate that when we make some extremely outdated char fight with some char that just have a new crt bruh

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Should we use remake nemesis to make more fair?

I mean nemesis remake even have more Ap than the original one,he scale to 0.0759 ton,already have 5.27x ap,and nemesis profile isn't outdated than wesker too,... If you guy want to make

 

[Harith0cell]

I mean nemesis remake even have more Ap than the original one,he scale to 0.0759 ton,already have 5.27x ap,and nemesis profile isn't outdated than wesker too,... If you guy want to make

At least Yor can damage nemesis compare to wesker who has stonewall durabilty.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

At least Yor can damage nemesis compare to wesker who has stonewall durabilty.

that 5.2x ap gap and consider that nemesis have regen too...,like any damage yor deal to nemesis is very minor and can be quickly regen,...,the only thing she have over nemesis is her agility

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Why change the character when there is a Wesker key that has 9-A dura?

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Why change the character when there is a Wesker key that has 9-A dura?

the re verse is very outdated sadly,even if we use the 9-A dura,

 

[Harith0cell]

that 5.2x ap gap and consider that nemesis have regen too...,like any damage yor deal to nemesis is very minor and can be quickly regen,...,the only thing she have over nemesis is her agility

Good point.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

I think Wesker takes this one. This might even be a stomp in his favor, I just don't see any viable way for Yor to take him down.
Even if giving her the benefit of the doubt, and saying that she is more skilled, Wesker isn't a slouch in hand-to-hand by any means, and I believe he'll be able to give Yor a run for her money.
Getting into her hax, Pressure Points and Poison, like others have said here, are useless. Wesker's body is already infected with a virus, and he can withstand an even more lethal dose in the care of Uroboros. Not to mention his regen might just take care of it anyways. Same argument goes for pressure points, nevermind that she's probably not strong enough to make use of those pressure points given his 8-C Dura. I don't see any viable wincon. A knife to the brain would only slow Wesker down, it's only a matter of time until Wesker hits her hard enough that she won't get back up. With his skill and superior physical capabilities, I don't see Yor playing slip and dodge for the entirety of the match. Hell, all Wesker has to do is wait for her to go in for a pressure point strike, then counter her immediately when things don't go according to plan.

I'm voting a stomp in favor of Wesker.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Why not just Tyrant tbh.
Tyrant still has regen.
Yor has potential to outskill Tyrant unless we allow Tyrant evolution.

Other than that. RE revelations 2 has a virus that basically induces fear and uses that fear to mutate their host. Wesker kinda resist that as well since it is still a variant of the original virus that Umbrella uses

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

bump

 

[Gohan?_You're_still_alive?]

Might be a stomp for Wesker, truly, I believe maybe Tyrant would be a bit better for an opponent-

 

[Peppersalt43]

Might be a stomp for Wesker, truly, I believe maybe Tyrant would be a bit better for an opponent-

We're currently dealing with a CRT, hang on

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

We're currently dealing with a CRT, hang on

Link rn

 

[Peppersalt43]

Link rn

https://vsbattles.com/threads/upgrade-spy-x-family.145582/

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/upgrade-spy-x-family.145582/

we are using that calc bruh,wesker still hard stomp

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

bump

Dude, the CRT passed. Yor is 9-B+ now

Also it was a stomp

 

[Chariot190]

Tyrant or Chris might be a good fight still.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Chris bodies

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Tyrant or Chris might be a good fight still.

still stomp though,or if you want to drag the tyrant from the remake,he is also 9-B+

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

How about Jill?

 

[Chariot190]

still stomp though,or if you want to drag the tyrant from the remake,he is also 9-B+

I thought we separated Remake feats from Original feats on the wiki? Thought we treated them as different canons.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

I thought we separated Remake feats from Original feats on the wiki? Thought we treated them as different canons.

I mean yeah ? I said that to him cuz mr X in origin is 9-A, so I told him to using the remake one

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Should we remade this MU? Now with stable value for SxP, re-Virus Wesker vs Yor is possible now

 

[Peppersalt43]

Should we remade this MU? Now with stable value for SxP, re-Virus Wesker vs Yor is possible now

There's still the High 8-C durability issue

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

There's still the High 8-C durability issue

If it's pre-Virus Wesker, then that isn't an issue

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

If it's pre-Virus Wesker, then that isn't an issue

Exactly

 

[Peppersalt43]

Exactly

OK, I'll change the keys

 

[Gohan?_You're_still_alive?]

So now it's Pre-Virus Wesker, starting off... What's the experience difference? Experience seems to be a prominent wincon I see with Pre-Virus Wesker. Even though those threads weren't finished-

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

So now it's Pre-Virus Wesker, starting off... What's the experience difference? Experience seems to be a prominent wincon I see with Pre-Virus Wesker. Even though those threads weren't finished-

I feel with Pre-Virus Wesker, this fight somehow become close, while Wesker experience as an agent and fighter is really impressive, so does Yor and in fact Yor has a slight advantage due of started as an assassin in very young age from what i recall
Both can destroy each other in CQC that's for sure, but the poison is a problem because if he get hit by it then it's a "kiss your ass a goodbye"

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

so yor have 16.892 Megajoules while wesker scale above 12.886 megajoules,only a 1.3 time different

I feel with Pre-Virus Wesker, this fight somehow become close, while Wesker experience as an agent and fighter is really impressive, so does Yor and in fact Yor has a slight advantage due of started as an assassin in very young age from what i recall
Both can destroy each other in CQC that's for sure, but the poison is a problem because if he get hit by it then it's a "kiss your ass a goodbye"

haha no,RE char actually resistance to poison bruh

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

so yor have 16.892 Megajoules while wesker scale above 12.886 megajoules,only a 1.3 time different

haha no,RE char actually resistance to poison bruh

Nvm lmao
So it's all come to who's hit first then, Yor CQC has the advantage due of the pressure point and slight AP advantage, but Wesker can still kite her due of the range thanks for his arsenal

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Bump!!

 

[Gohan?_You're_still_alive?]

Who hits who first? Because speed is equalized, I think Wesker might be able to land a shot first, since he can make very accurate shots on moving targets, a good example was in the intro from Resident Evil HD.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Wesker's a pretty fast quick-draw, I wouldn't put it past him to get his gun out before Yor could properly cover the distance.

 

[Gohan?_You're_still_alive?]

Indeed, he also styles with his quick draw, spinning the gun before firing.

Although that's in MVC when he uses a gun, idk if canon Wesker would style with his gun in a deathmatch.

 

[First_Witch]

Yor has Instinctive Reaction and could dodge Snipershots from behind from someone who could kill his presence against Yor's senses and Bloodlust sensing. Yor in general has tons of experience dealing with guns, her worst Skill feat is enganging mobs with guns head-on. So, Weskers skill feats?

Yor as a Garden Assassin can take out military platoons on her own. Killed an entire group of the continents best assassins armed with guns, knifes, swords and other esotheric shit like chakrams and whips. So if Wesker dosnt stack up to her shes going to run towards him, dodge his gunshots with IR and acrobatics and then proceeds to destroy him in close quarter combat. Setting aside that she could just blitz him with thorn throws whenever she feels like it.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yor has Instinctive Reaction and could dodge Snipershots from behind from someone who could kill his presence against Yor's senses and Bloodlust sensing. Yor in general has tons of experience dealing with guns, her worst Skill feat is enganging mobs with guns head-on. So, Weskers skill feats?

Yor as a Garden Assassin can take out military platoons on her own. Killed an entire group of the continents best assassins armed with guns, knifes, swords and other esotheric shit like chakrams and whips. So if Wesker dosnt stack up to her shes going to run towards him, dodge his gunshots with IR and acrobatics and then proceeds to destroy him in close quarter combat. Setting aside that she could just blitz him with thorn throws whenever she feels like it.

I almost forgor about Yor IR, then again while it can be way overstimated, this thing can counter Wesker hard here

Chariot doesn't come yet so imma give the idea of Wesker skill in this thread:

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

I almost forgor about Yor IR, then again while it can be way overstimated, this thing can counter Wesker hard here

Chariot doesn't come yet so imma give the idea of Wesker skill in this thread:

almost these feat is post virus wesker,so I don't think it can be used in here

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

anyway,I'm maybe go with yor here but not voting yet,cuz in my memory,wesker pre-virus doesn't have much skill compare to yor,I should check umbrella chronicle to see what skill feat he have considering that the only game have most gameplay about pre virus wesker

 

[Chariot190]

I almost forgor about Yor IR, then again while it can be way overstimated, this thing can counter Wesker hard here

Chariot doesn't come yet so imma give the idea of Wesker skill in this thread:

I have contacted the residential Yor/Wesker ******
im more of a leon ******, i havent ****** with anything with pre virus in like decade besides 1make.

 

[First_Witch]

Yor fodderizes Military platoons on her own and regulary cleans entire gangs armed with guns, if Wesker isn't pulling out crazy marksmanship feats, he isnt tagging Yor.

And the poison resistance, arent't herbs something he has to cosume?

 

[Chariot190]

To be fair, if he's on par with Chris, he's doing some wacky shit see RE5 where he's taking out hordes of armed lads because they decided to make RE into cod for a bit

It's also important to note that "she can take whole military platoons" doesn't mean much by itself, how does she do it? How skilled are the individual soldiers in the platoon? Etc. Taking out a group of what is essentially just fodder with guns isn't the same as taking out a group of Navy Seals armed to the teeth, or for a more topical comparison, Stars Members.

Like not to discredit Yor but the whole "takes out big group" is always a good feat but you always have to ask is it via skill? Stat gap? And how good even is the group in question because SXF isn't exactly modern day, they're training wouldn't be on par with ours for standard military affairs.
also yor got tagged in the ass once because she wasn't paying attention, i know she has other feats but it ain't like it's impossible to tag her with a gun

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Wesker pre virus isn't really shown much
most of its detail was simply records of the "Weskers" that they handpicked and such and that Wesker is the only one that was successful

 

[First_Witch]

Its not meant as a "skill feat" per see like "Yor is more skilled than Wesker because...", Its "Yor has no problem dodging multiple fireams used by professionals of varying degree, so Wesker needs far more cracked gun feats to hit her."

I think we settled on Cold War/premodern era military and we know that the military had actions as they fought a huge conflict not too long ago.

 

[First_Witch]

Like, again, Yor has InstReact a Snipershot coming from behind her by a Sniper who can hide his presence.

 

[Chariot190]

Its not meant as a "skill feat" per see like "Yor is more skilled than Wesker because...", Its "Yor has no problem dodging multiple fireams used by professionals of varying degree, so Wesker needs far more cracked gun feats to hit her."

So a skill feat then? But how skilled even are those shooters? Like there's a difference between a toddler with a gun who's never shot it before and a veteran who trains every day with guns and has been in numerous conflicts.
This honestly doesn't mean much unless we actually see what it entails, or we know how good the people she throttles even are, without at least SOME clarification, it's nothing more than empty words, at best in means she can handle herself in numbers let's also not forget she's fast enough to dodge bullets so that's probably playing a part.

I think we settled on Cold War/premodern era military and we know that the military had actions as they fought a huge conflict not too long ago.

Yeah ik, I'm not caught up but I've read a good chunk of it (I think like ch80 was the last one I read?), and needless to say, training and marksmenship requirements for back then pale in comparison to modern, let alone Stars (What Wesker is). Like just minimal requirements entail things like being able to shoot shit from hundreds of meters away with a hit rate of like 90%. What I'm saying is this whole platoon thing isn't really relevant, at all, for this match, it's like saying Mike Tyson could beat the shit out of a group of people without getting hit, but the group of people in question might be literal children, it's just not worth talking about.

Yor's actual tangible feats are better to be used here.

Like, again, Yor has InstReact a Snipershot coming from behind her by a Sniper who can hide his presence.

That's true, but she's also been tagged from behind in the same situation. It's not 100% perfect.

Though, I'm also not really sure how skilled Wesker is in shooting beyond just "he was stars (an elite unit that Jill and Chris were also in)", if he's comparable to Chris I can start listing shit though as Chris, by virtue of actually being playable and a main character, has screen time so he can actually do shit, while Wesker is just funny villain man behind the scenes 90% of the time.

 

[First_Witch]

What you are saying is valid, ultimately they were featless beyond being trained soldiers. But even assuming the absolute minimum, Wesker would still have to deal with someone running towards machinegun fire and dodging then on the regular. Wesker might be leagues ahead of any military force, but thats not a marksmanship feat on its own, nor is it enough for him to tag someone highly acrobatic, skilled and experienced in dodging and having IR on top of that. Which is why I'm asking for his marksmanship feats.

That's true, but she's also been tagged from behind in the same situation. It's not 100% perfect.

That happened extremly early on in the series and has never happened again, so I don't think its much of an antifeat than it is just a gagmoment. Heck, Yor didn't formally show IR feats until way later on in the series.

 

[First_Witch]

And if push comes to shove and she can't reasonably close the distance between the two, Yor might just snipe with her daggers being thrown at High Hypersonic speeds

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

honestly.pre virus wesker doesn't have any notable skill though,so I am gonna vote yor,even if her IR doesn't work or anything like that

And if push comes to shove and she can't reasonably close the distance between the two, Yor might just snipe with her daggers being thrown at High Hypersonic speeds

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

 

[Chariot190]

Which is why I'm asking for his marksmanship feats.

That's the thing, the lad don't got shit, pre-virus Wesker basically isn't even a character (which is why idk why he's being used, use Jill or something, it's more fitting anyway). But, assuming he's on par with Chris and Jill (Both Star Members, in fact, he was their leader), that changes things and we can look at them for an idea of what he can do.

Otherwise you're basically using a character who doesn't exist for the most part. it'd be like using Yor before she became an assassin, basically Wesker's whole existence has been while infected.

Wesker would still have to deal with someone running towards machinegun fire and dodging then on the regular. Wesker might be leagues ahead of any military force, but thats not a marksmanship feat on its own,

Actually, technically speaking, it is, but only technically, all modern military groups, subsections, and so on require testing and drills that need to be completed to actually join, like you can't become a sniper if you don't possess MOS 11B, 19D or 18 series in the rank of E3 through E6 as well as a good track record and no history of alcohol or drug abuse, you can't even apply, and even then you need to take stamina training, marksmen training, be able to hit a target from a certain distance with a certain success rate, etc.
When it comes to modern day military stuff, we at the very least know the minimum baseline of what they can do by sheer virtue of their job and rank, you can readily find the requirements online in manuals and stuff.
The question here would be, what does Stars fall under, and if so, what's the minimum requirements to actually become one? **** if I know tho.

nor is it enough for him to tag someone highly acrobatic, skilled and experienced in dodging and having IR on top of that. Which is why I'm asking for his marksmanship feats.

As said, he's basically featless, best we got is comparing to his colleagues or just looking up irl military requirements. Beyond just basic shooting.

Though, assuming he's comparable to Jill/Chris, being acrobatic won't be inherently enough and speed equal kinda ***** the whole dodging thing a tad (Remember, in SxF, Yor is multiple times faster than basically any bullet that'd get used on her simply due to the timeframe, she's hypersonic, even nowadays hypersonic bullets are extremely rare, here, they'd actually be faster than her).

That happened extremly early on in the series and has never happened again, so I don't think its much of an antifeat than it is just a gagmoment. Heck, Yor didn't formally show IR feats until way later on in the series.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.
You also have to realize, she's way faster than a bullet normally. Half her IR feats may as well be bordering on just blitzing.

And if push comes to shove and she can't reasonably close the distance between the two, Yor might just snipe with her daggers being thrown at High Hypersonic speeds

Eh, if, again, if, he's comparable to Chris, he should be able to shoot down thrown knives given leon can do that
also wouldnt she run out of knives pretty fast?

 

[Peppersalt43]

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

Yeah, that means every other speed is reduced the same amount as combat speed. Her needles are still gonna go much faster than her

 

[Chariot190]

Are her needles even faster than her? Doesn't she react to things comparable to them?

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

I don't think so,given that she only supersonic +

 

[Chariot190]

If her projectile and base speed get separated, why is she scaling off hitting a tennis ball?

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

If her projectile and base speed get separated, why is she scaling off hitting a tennis ball?

she get the supersonic + because of capable dodging a spear,not hitting a tennis ball,that only supersonic

 

[First_Witch]

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.
You also have to realize, she's way faster than a bullet normally. Half her IR feats may as well be bordering on just blitzing.

She has 2 distinct feats and none are perfomed via speed though. 1 was her boss attacking her out of nowhere and we see visually that she wasn't even consciouss of the attack until she dodged.

2 was her dodging the snipershot coming from behind, i.e she coudn' react to it, especially considering that fireworks were going off at the sametime.

If her projectile and base speed get separated, why is she scaling off hitting a tennis ball?

She has High Hypersonic throwing speed for her volleyball feat, its on her profile

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

lmao what if we use Hunk. at least that dude has feats in Raccoon city being superior to the ORC Umbrella cast

 

[Chariot190]

Then why even list it in her base section?
Also looking at the formula, that same thing applies to the volleyball calc so like?

She has High Hypersonic throwing speed for her volleyball feat, its on her profile

Yeah I know, yet the same formula used for the tennis ball feat, which is applied to her base speed, is applicable there. It doesn't make sense to split it like that.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

she get the supersonic + because of capable dodging a spear,not hitting a tennis ball,that only supersonic

.

 

[Chariot190]

I read, I'm saying the same formula would apply to the volleyball calc, and while she might be getting Sonic+ via the spear, the tennis ball feat and thus formula is still being applied to her base speed (and not to mention that's what she was being scaled off prior).

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

The only tangible feats we have for pre-virus Wesker is: Single-handedly orchestrating the fall of STARS through manipulation them via the Mansion (though granted he had prep-time), blitzing Chris twice (Shooting a member of STARS and running away before Chris could get a look at him, and taking him down even through Chris knew he was double-crossing), blitzed Rebecca (who had previously taken down a Tyrant and gone through the events of RE0), and blitzed Jill.

He's also got this feat, as a show of marksmanship; he's able to maintain perfect aim without even bothering to look in that direction.

At the very least, we can scale pre-virus Wesker to Chris and Jill in RE1; who've gone through their fair share of tough opponents with exceptional aim and marksmanship (h2h is practically non-existent in RE1), and he's got incredible adaption; from the moment he woke up with his powers, he was able to use them like he'd studied for years on some DMC shit.

Also, the Umbrella Chronicles pretty much pictures STARS as above any Special Forces the police might have; the best of the best, it states, hand-picked for extreme anti-terrorism.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Bump!!

 

[Baken384]

Yor Forger unfortunately slams..
Yor shouldn't have any trouble facing off against RE1 Wesker's experience when she is a legend among contracted killers and could threaten to kill Loid who is literally a war veteran and experienced enough to be assigned to a mission that is meant to keep the peace between two countries, in fact its hilariously sad how WISE is like overworking Loid to the point he starts to have thoughts of requesting for a long vacation. Granted one can say Loid is just being dumb there and tried not to do all in against Yor since she is his wife but he still claimed that she could have killed him anyway if she continued to pressure him.

As mentioned above, she did fight against a group of militants that should be equipped with handguns at minimum, managing to slam them all with ease and even if Wesker shot Yor somehow, especially with her showcasing the ability to dodge sniper shots, malice sensing (which allowed her to detect foes, even ones that are perfectly blending in with a crowd) and instinctive reaction (literally dodging a blade mere centimeters away from her face without her even knowing such blade existed and was distracted at viewing the flowers while Wesker couldn't even dodge the tyrant's stab attack despite Wesker seeing it move ), she can live with it since she was shot in the ass once and continued to move.
She also faced off against a group of Professional Assassins in a ship and was slamming them all pretty well, being able to dodge a sneak attack while being able to protect a client.
In the same fight, she faced off against this assassin whose weapon and fighting style was unfamiliar to Yor, it wasn't easy for Yor, especially when she is like mentally nerfed when it is explained later on if I recall because she didn't want to get injured and lose her life with the Forger Family but in the end managed to beat him anyway.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

yeah,consider pre virus wesker only have re 1 experience,he should be slapped quite easily,

 

[Popted2]

Yor FRA

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

I'm actually voting for Wesker here

While Yor does have the more impressive feats at face value, you have to consider that she's a top tier in her verse and nearly all of her skill feats are her simply outspeeding or overpowering other skilled characters because she's just WAY stronger

Meanwhile we have RE characters that are constantly outmatched by stronger, faster monsters that have all manner of bullshit going on with them and still come out on top

And Wesker was the best of them with him being the leader of Chris and Jill when he didn't have the virus, both of which have dealt with all manner of horror's while being outmatched in nearly every category

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I'm actually voting for Wesker here

While Yor does have the more impressive feats at face value, you have to consider that she's a top tier in her verse and nearly all of her skill feats are her simply outspeeding or overpowering other skilled characters because she's just WAY stronger

Meanwhile we have RE characters that are constantly outmatched by stronger, faster monsters that have all manner of bullshit going on with them and still come out on top

And Wesker was the best of them with him being the leader of Chris and Jill when he didn't have the virus, both of which have dealt with all manner of horror's while being outmatched in nearly every category

Ngl that was not convincing enough considering the other points that has been brought here for Wesker (Pre-Virus), but i see where did you come from

I still can't decide which one i'll vote so let's continue the debate

 

[Gohan?_You're_still_alive?]

while Wesker couldn't even dodge the tyrant's stab attack despite Wesker seeing it move )

Actually, in Umbrella Chronicles, I believe Wesker planned for that to happen, I think he let himself get stabbed so that he could escape under blind eyes.