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Why Xeno Goku always lose ?

Xeno Goku is to Tier 2, what Minardi was to Formula 1: a freakin' disaster lol. But now seriously, I'm questioning why Xeno Goku does even exist, if he's so weak compared to most 2-B's.......Ah now I know the reason: F.A.N.S.E.R.V.I.C.E.
 
@ShadowWarrior1999 do you think, that Future Warrior 2 (mid godly guy) can beat or stalemate the Archie characters despite his AP disadvantage?
 
Future Warrior 2 is actually a much better 2-B than Xeno Goku; he stalemated Simon, while Simon Vs Goku wasn't added because it was a stomp on Simon's favor.
 
Straika said:
@ShadowWarrior1999 do you think, that Future Warrior 2 (mid godly guy) can beat or stalemate the Archie characters despite his AP disadvantage?
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He lacks hax plus Archie 2-As can bypass Mid-Godly with concept manipulation.
 
Can Archie Sonic bypass Mid-Godly regen? If not, then FW2 has a pretty good chance to at least stalemate AS.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Why he lose...he get's stomped harder than he loses.
Goku is just in that category of the wiki we call "fodder", he is completely unhaxed. He gets stomped by a lot of people even in the REALLY low tiers. He only has raw strength going for him. Hell even This guy is technically more haxxed than Goku, and he's an actual normal human being.

The thing is it's not raw strength that makes a strong character in the wiki, the meta is a bit on:

1. Passive OHKO's

2. Just raw hax

3. Immortalities (especially type 8)

4. Hax tier (so some random tier 8 character with tier 2 or tier 1 hax)

That's the general meta and the things that we call strong. Goku just can't do anything against either of those type of ppl, while Nanashi for example who has immortality and really strong hax is the best of almost all of his keys. Reinhard who has pretty decent hax, passive OHKO, hax tier AND immortalities is at the top of all tiers (except tier 1A ofc since there isn't a strongest tier 1A).

Also if he were in 2-A he'd get owned REALLY hard. The 2-A dudes start getting haxxed af.
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You're a bit exaggerating dude, not every fight is solely won by "oh this guy has EE, he instawins", its more what conditions the fight is in like Bloodlusted or In character, also i'm pretty sure not every equivalent tier character to Goku always leads with something broken like Reality Warping, 2-B mindhax or really any other hax.
 
Straika said:
Can Archie Sonic bypass Mid-Godly regen? If not, then FW2 has a pretty good chance to at least stalemate AS.
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I just mentioned that Archie characters have concept manipulation so yes, Archie Sonic can bypass Mid-Godly.
 
There's a lot of haxless low 2-Cs and 3-As. For haxless characters, Goku's among the best in terms of combat skill and such.
 
Also archie sonic being 2-A can just incap by making like a box or something around Xeno, so there's that.
 
He lacks hax plus Archie 2-As can bypass Mid-Godly with concept manipulation.

Future Warrior 2 lacks in hax?! Seriously?! Xeno Goku ok, but him?! Nah, not really, FW2 is known to be a (decentely) haxxed dude, especially for DB standards. However I can agree with you about the so called "concept manipulation".
 
Someone should make a composite dragon ball character on joke battles. first key being canon dragon ball. Second including heroes and third including toribot. I wonder what happened to the composite one punch man character.
 
They are characters and verses more powerful than DBZ, I agree with that, but DBZ is still the king of anime 😎ƒÆ¬ƒæèÔ£î Now to not derail this thread: I can't say much about this thread, so I'm leaving now! Prace out to y'all!
 
He lacks hax plus Archie 2-As can bypass Mid-Godly with concept manipulation.

Future Warrior 2 lacks in hax?! Seriously?! Xeno Goku ok, but him?! Nah, not really, FW2 is known to be a (decentely) haxxed dude, especially for DB standards. However I can agree with you about the so called "concept manipulation".

Maybe by DB standards he has good hax but we all know how much DB lacks in that category. I don't see anything on his profile that really stands out.
 
Not bad. although there is no key for toribot and it doesnt seem to be updated. although im not sure if a toribot key would technically be allowed on that.
 
Because people think it's somehow fair to pair up Xeno Goku against opponents who has double or sometimes triple the amount of hax abilities Xeno Goku has.
 
You know, I'm pretty sure Xeno Goku vs Hades is a stomp in Hades's favor. Hades is 2-C but has Mid-Godly and broken hax. I don't know why that match got added.
 
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