Why Xeno Goku always lose ?

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Risci viragosi Dangit! I missed that. Sorry XD

Paulo Dont think that really has anything to do with the real world and fiction but whatever. I wonder what the physical process of that actually was. It sounds like something out of dr who where time messes up and does something that isnt supposed to happen.

Back on topic xeno goku has no hacks but a high ap. Even higher if you go by cannon but i really dont want to get into an infinite universes debate here

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I wish there was someone to put Xeno Goku against that doesn't come down to hax, a 2-B version Goku is actually pretty interesting, but he always gets haxed before he can really do anything.

 

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True. I wonder how good in his tier he would be if 2A were accepted or high 2A was confirmed.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Most tier 2 beings are haxlords. If you don't have hax then you're basically ******.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Honeslty, I can't really think of any other 2-B who focuses more on physical combat and doesn't haxstomp, except for Mecha Goku, but that was a stomp in Xeno Goku's favor.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

There is a difference between having a fictional world exist as a parallel and having a fictional world existing beneath yours. The former is the case for DB and DC Comics, the latter is true for the Annoying Dog.

And lumi

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Mecha Goku is the weakest 2-B on this site.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

True. I wonder how good in his tier he would be if 2A were accepted or high 2A was confirmed.

He'd still get rekt by Archie Sonic.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

2-A and High 2-A are far, FAR more haxxed than 2-B ever will be. DB going up in power just means their lack of hax would become more and more painful.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

True. I wonder how good in his tier he would be if 2A were accepted or high 2A was confirmed.

You realize those guys are even more haxed, yeah?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

In 2-A you could be infinitely above baseline but still get stomped by a baseline due to hax.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That reminds me stellaris player should be low 1-C for viewing 5-Ds as fictio

 

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They could take out the likes of spectre, wyrm, maybe bill cipher or possibly mr mxy. along with their massive ap. Although they would still die against verses like digimon or bobobo.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You do realize Goku loses to someone whose only hax is being Non-Corporeal, right?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bill Cipher would snap his fingers.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Bill and Mxy are haxed as all hell.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

He also has Low-Godly regen which Goku has no way of bypassing.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

If xenoverse becomes 2-A they'd lose to archie sonic alone

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Mxy is Non-Corporeal and can erase concepts and control the laws of physics.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic would simply reality warp Goku out of existence.

 

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Unless you gave goku the hakai or used beerus.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Unless you gave goku the hakai or used beerus.

They still get haxstomped by, like, every 2-A with very few exeptions

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Bill also apparently has some broken Precogniton were he can see infinite probable futures, or something like that.

 

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true. Also some 2A have been hackstomped by 2-B before so saying they are always more haxed is quite over the top

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Hakai doesn't work on stronger beings. Also:

 

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Only in terms of ap. Either way sending goku to 2-A is probably as bad as sending logan paul to the ufc lmao.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Would he lose to ENIAC?

 

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I wonder if demigras victories could apply to xeno goku as well. Demigra does seem slightly more haxed in his profile.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Doctor Solos with sufficient prep time

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Even if Goku was 2-A he'd likely still lose to virtually any decently haxed 2-B or 2-C character. No way in hell he'd beat Khorne.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I wonder if demigras victories could apply to xeno goku as well. Demigra does seem slightly more haxed in his profile.

In general, Demigra's mindhax will get him more wins/stomps than Goku's stuff.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Why he lose...he get's stomped harder than he loses.

Goku is just in that category of the wiki we call "fodder", he is completely unhaxed. He gets stomped by a lot of people even in the REALLY low tiers. He only has raw strength going for him. Hell even This guy is technically more haxxed than Goku, and he's an actual normal human being.

The thing is it's not raw strength that makes a strong character in the wiki, the meta is a bit on:

1. Passive OHKO's

2. Just raw hax

3. Immortalities (especially type 8)

4. Hax tier (so some random tier 8 character with tier 2 or tier 1 hax)

That's the general meta and the things that we call strong. Goku just can't do anything against either of those type of ppl, while Nanashi for example who has immortality and really strong hax is the best of almost all of his keys. Reinhard who has pretty decent hax, passive OHKO, hax tier AND immortalities is at the top of all tiers (except tier 1A ofc since there isn't a strongest tier 1A).

Also if he were in 2-A he'd get owned REALLY hard. The 2-A dudes start getting haxxed af.

 

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Would he lose to ENIAC?

He might actually win. His profile seems to be baseline for those tiers. Although he does have omnipresence, that is only a state of being but it would likely be a speed blitz unless you give goku immeasurable speeds

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Would he lose to ENIAC?

He might actually win. His profile seems to be baseline for those tiers. Although he does have omnipresence, that is only a state of being but it would likely be a speed blitz unless you give goku immeasurable speeds

Unhaxed 2-B vs 2-A up to high 2-A? Ubber stomp dude.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

ENIAC could be turned off.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

He might actually win. His profile seems to be baseline for those tiers. Although he does have omnipresence, that is only a state of being but it would likely be a speed blitz unless you give goku immeasurable speeds
Unhaxed 2-B vs 2-A up to high 2-A? Ubber stomp dude.

We're pretending Goku is 2-A.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Oh...still most likely no.

Omniscience is really troublesome and nigh omnipresence with that.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Maybe he could fight Anti-Monitor.

 

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I brought that up. the anti monitor although slightly more haxed might actually lose due to xeno gokus raw power over him.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I assumed Goku would be baseline so the AP would be about the same.