Why is The Glass of Time 2-C?

[Tots_Real]

Ok I don't understand why The Glass of Time is 2-C. With the logic given any time traveling device can be 2-C. For Example: I obtain a magic time watch and I go and pick up a bunch of past mes. Then I go back in time and bust a cap in baby me. I cease to exist and so does the dozens of parallel mes. Although technically it is true that all the time watch could have been creating multiple universes and holding them up and preventing them from collapsing, though it would make more sense that all the versions of me exist in a sort of wave function where all the mes could theoretically exist but when I kill baby me the function collapses since it's now impossible for those events to exist. This is the same in Steven case when he destroyed the hour glass it collapsed the pseudo wave function and made it now have only one possibility be the one where steven never timetraveled. This makes more sence and wouldn't be 2-C.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because it created and erased entire timelines, it didnt just perform time travel

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Do you have a good point and if that was accepted because the same thing does not happen with reverse flash?

 

[Tots_Real]

Because it created and erased entire timelines, it didnt just perform time travel

I mean destroying the time machine in the past and stopping you from ever getting usually erases all time travel shinagins in most stories.

 

[Tots_Real]

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[Peppypony]

I thought the whole timeline thing just came from Steven at the end of the episode saying

"I have created! An alternate timeline!"

And that's not saying he created many other timelines. Just a timeline.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Each new steven that was shown in that episode was a new timeline that was created by the Glass

 

[Tots_Real]

Still most of the time travel devices "create" new timelines, doesn't make them 2-C

 

[Peppypony]

That is literally one of the things that put any character on that level.

Steven destroyed it in order to get rid of all the Steven clones too if I remember correctly which resulted in making it so that their timelines never even happened in the first place.

 

[Tots_Real]

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[Tots_Real]

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[Pulinno]

Is the car from Back to the Future 2-C for creating and altering timelines?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

It shouldn't be 2-C FRA, It's like Flowey and the 6 Human Souls, who can create Timelines, but are only 9-A.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Except the Flowey that creates timelines IS 2-C

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Except the Flowey that creates timelines IS 2-C

Base Flowey could also create Timelines before Frisk arrived, It's the reason why there's a "Likely 2-B" for Chara and Asriel.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, it's not a 2-C feat, it's literally just the many-worlds interpretation of time travel. It's not an AP feat, it's just time travel.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Except its blatantly stated that he created alternate timelines and then destroyed them

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, but it did so indirectly through time travel. The user of the hourglass can't just go "I want to create a timeline" and make it appear out of nowhere; it can only create new timelines by traveling back into the past and altering an event, which causes branching (one timeline in which the event was altered, and another in which the event wasn't altered; this is literally just the many-worlds interpretation of time travel). It doesn't translate to AP, because it's not an AP feat, it's just time travel.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Destroying the timelines wasn't done through AP either. Steven simply went back in time and prevented himself from using the hourglass, which means all the timeline that were created through the time travel disappeared, since the time travel never happened.

This is, again, not an AP feat, it is just time travel; the user of the hourglass can't destroy timelines whenever it wants, he can only do so by altering the past, and it only affects the timeline the hourglass itself has created; it does not have any 2-C attacks, and all of its 2-C feats were done indirectly in ways that do not translate to AP.