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Why God Zamasu (DBS Manga) has Mid Godly regeneration?

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God Zamasu (DBS Manga)

Fusion Zamasu (合体 ザマス, Gattai Zamasu) is a fusion born of the union between Goku Black (Present Zamasu in Goku's body) and Future Zamasu through the Potara earrings. After nearly unfusing, he gained the ability to multiply, requiring Goku to summon Zeno to kill him once and for all. Tier: 2-C...
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Explanation & scans states he can't be killed on the level of physical body and soul Destruction but couldn't find any scan for he can't be killed even if they destroyed his mind. Well mid godly regeneration is Regenerating from complete body, soul and mind destruction.

Isn't this just low godly regeneration.
 
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God Zamasu (DBS Manga)

Fusion Zamasu (合体 ザマス, Gattai Zamasu) is a fusion born of the union between Goku Black (Present Zamasu in Goku's body) and Future Zamasu through the Potara earrings. After nearly unfusing, he gained the ability to multiply, requiring Goku to summon Zeno to kill him once and for all. Tier: 2-C...
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Explaination & scans states he can't be killed on the level of physical body and soul Destruction but couldn't find any scan for he can't be killed even if they destroyed his mind. Well mid godly regeneration is Regenerating from complete body, soul and mind destruction.

Isn't this just low godly regeneration.
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Immortals like Fused Zamasu cannot be killed by Hakai in the manga, which erases both the body and the soul of the victim. Beerus flatly said it can't be done

Low-Godly regen is just regenerating from soul alone

Mid-Godly on the other hand, is regenerating after the erasure of both the body and the soul at once, which is what hakai do, meaning Zamasu has Mid-Godly. Hakai erases everything the victim has (body, soul, mind or whatever), in a way that they can never be brought back even with the Dragon Balls (excluding the Super Dragon Balls)
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Immortals like Fused Zamasu cannot be killed by Hakai in the manga, which erases both the body and the soul of the victim. Beerus flatly said it can't be done

Low-Godly regen is just regenerating from soul alone

Mid-Godly on the other hand, is regenerating after the erasure of both the body and the soul at once, which is what hakai do, meaning Zamasu has Mid-Godly
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Not really as for explanation in Regeneration page

Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.

It's clearly states all 3 aspects should be destroyed then Regenerate from it but if what you are saying it's true them many characters should get Mid Godly just because their soul gets destroyed.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Not really as for explanation in Regeneration page

Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.

It's clearly states all 3 aspects should be destroyed then Regenerate from it but if what you are saying it's true them many characters should get Mid Godly just because their soul gets destroyed.
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You forgot the part where it was said that everything relating to Zamasu's being are erased with the hakai. If there would be something left for him to regenerate from, he would been able to be brought back by the Dragon Balls on the basis of his "mind", where we know it's impossible to do so after someone would get erased
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Hakai erases everything the victim has (body, soul, mind or whatever), in a way that they can never be brought back even with the Dragon Balls (excluding the Super Dragon Balls)
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Can I get scan for it stating it can destroy mind also. Also using whatever without Statement is just seem to be headcanon.
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
You forgot the part where it was said that everything relating to Zamasu's being are erased with the hakai. If there would be something left for him to regenerate from, he would been able to be brought back by the Dragon Balls on the basis of his "mind", where we know it's impossible to do so after someone would get erased
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Well you see thats still a headcanon unless you have scan for his mind getting erased. Hakai scans only states about destroying soul and body. Well if there is any better explanation with other scan can you show me i will close this thread.
 
Pretty sure the mind is automatically assumed to be erased along with the brain unless the verse states otherwise. Some verses have the mind as some kind of incorporeal thing that can exist without the body and soul. But if they don't specify then erasing body and soul is enough.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Pretty sure the mind is automatically assumed to be erased along with the brain unless the verse states otherwise. Some verses have the mind as some kind of incorporeal thing that can exist without the body and soul. But if they don't specify then erasing body and soul is enough.
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I wonder why Aizen and many characters like him in other verses don't have mid godly if we automatically assume mind gets destroyed when soul gets destroyed.
Mid godly that's why specifically states Body, soul and mind.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
I wonder why Aizen and many characters like him in other verses don't have mid godly if we automatically assume mind gets destroyed when soul gets destroyed.
Mid godly that's why specifically states Body, soul and mind.
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Not sure, but if a verse considers getting your body and soul erased to be everything there is to erase then I think it counts for Mid-Godly.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Not sure, but if a verse considers getting your body and soul erased to be everything there is to erase then I think it counts for Mid-Godly.
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Actually no. Getting complete existence erased from the said verse would become high godly. Well i will wait for some more input.
 
Anyway can anyone tag which thread that mid godly regeneration for Zamasu got accepted. I will try to look into it if just getting erased on spiritual level and Regenerating from it gets you mid godly Regeneration then many characters should get it.
 
Lots of stuff wrong here

Mid godly regen requires you to regen from both physical and metaphysical erasure, AKA, you need to regen even if the noncorporral essence that you'd rely in low godly, was erased, it doesn't have to be all 3 aspects, only body and soul in this case, and is important to mention that a lot of verses threat the soul and mind as one.

Zamasu has it for regenerating from the hakai which erases body and soul.

And being erased from the verse does not equal conceptual erasure unless proven, you'd just be erased on the highest level of nonexistence/erasure the verse has shown.
 
Thelastmlg said:
Lots of stuff wrong here

Mid godly regen requires you to regen from both physical and metaphysical erasure, AKA, you need to regen even if the noncorporral essence that you'd rely in low godly, was erased, it doesn't have to be all 3 aspects, only body and soul in this case, and is important to mention that a lot of verses threat the soul and mind as one.

Zamasu has it for regenerating from the hakai which erases body and soul.

And being erased from the verse does not equal conceptual erasure unless proven, you'd just be erased on the highest level of nonexistence/erasure the verse has shown.
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Can you send the scans for Zamasu completely getting erased and regenerating from it.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Can you send the scans for Zamasu completely getting erased and regenerating from it.
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1. Beerus flat out stated he can't "erase that kind of immortality" which refering to Zamasu (Manga). And Beerus in manga also stated that he capable of erasing body and soul completely when he threatening Frieza
2. Goku did use Hakai on Fusion Zamasu, erase half of him, then he regen

I'm on phone so i can't send scan though
 
Vietthai96 said:
1. Beerus flat out stated he can't "erase that kind of immortality" which refering to Zamasu (Manga). And Beerus in manga also stated that he capable of erasing body and soul completely when he threatening Frieza
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That's would just seems to be resistance to low godly regeneration negation
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2. Goku did use Hakai on Fusion Zamasu, erase half of him, then he regen
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Destroying half doesn't prove he can Regenerate from complete eraser though.
Vietthai96 said:
I'm on phone so i can't send scan though
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Take your time 👍 I am not in a hurry
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
That's would just seems to be resistance to low godly regeneration negation
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This is competely wrong argument, destroy body and soul is not Low Godly Negation. And Beerus specifically stated he can't deal with that kind of immortality, immortality here refering to his regeneration and immortality.

Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Destroying half doesn't prove he can Regenerate from complete eraser though.
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Another bad argument, if he can't regen, he will not regen, half or complete is irrelevant, since Hakai erase at soul level. If he can regen half of his body and soul then he is very well capable of regenerating from complete erasure, and Beerus statement supporting that
 
Vietthai96 said:
This is competely wrong argument, destroy body and soul is not Low Godly Negation. And Beerus specifically stated he can't deal with that kind of immortality, immortality here refering to his regeneration and immortality.
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Hm Mayuri in Bleach also states nothing in SS can kill Aizen so that had to seal him off which also includes hado 54 which erases ones existence completely. Aizen is already a soul by this logic he should have had mid godly regeneration but he don't have it because of mind thing
Vietthai96 said:
Another bad argument, if he can't regen, he will not regen, half or complete is irrelevant, since Hakai erase at soul level. If he can regen half of his body and soul then he is very well capable of regenerating from complete erasure, and Beerus statement supporting that
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Many characters would get Mid Godly regeneration if you saying is true.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Hm Mayuri in Bleach also states nothing in SS can kill Aizen so that had to seal him off which also includes hado 54 which erases ones existence completely. Aizen is already a soul by this logic he should have had mid godly regeneration but he don't have it because of mind thing
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Another bad arguments, nothing can't kill Aizen is completely different from Beerus statement that he can't deal with Zamasu Immortality, immortality here is refering to Zamasu regeneration, and Zamasu actually show his ability to regen, he not has resistance to Hakai, he actually in the process of getting erase from it and he regen

Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Many characters would get Mid Godly regeneration if you saying is true.
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Name them???. Also i like said before Beerus statement support this rating, and Zamasu did regen, even though just half of his soul and body.

Lastly, don't bring other verses in to defend your arguments, each verse different from each other
 
Vietthai96 said:
Another bad arguments, nothing can't kill Aizen is completely different from Beerus statement that he can't deal with Zamasu Immortality, immortality here is refering to Zamasu regeneration, and Zamasu actually show his ability to regen, he not has resistance to Hakai, he actually in the process of getting erase from it and he regen
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Mayuri is also stating about Aizen immortality. Aizen also Regenerated from Mugetsu. Also his immortality comes from hogyoku which is not his own body & soul still he only has low godly listed in his profile .
Vietthai96 said:
Name them???. Also i like said before Beerus statement support this rating, and Zamasu did regen, even though just half of his soul and body.

Lastly, don't bring other verses in to defend your arguments, each verse different from each other
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Each verse is different but REGENERATION thing is considered as same in every verse.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Mayuri is also stating about Aizen immortality. Aizen also Regenerated from Mugetsu. Also his immortality comes from hogyoku which is not his own body & soul still he only has low godly listed in his profile .
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Then make a CRT about it
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Each verse is different but REGENERATION thing is considered as same in every verse
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Regeneration is an ability nothing more, what i said is don't bring other verse in, they different from each others, that all
 
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Regeneration, often referred to as a healing factor, is the ability to passively heal oneself from wounds at an accelerated rate, with many characters proving capable of regenerating from wounds that would be lethal to normal humans. It has several different levels that range in potency from...
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Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.

Now compare that to the current definition of Low Godly.



Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other nonphysical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
 
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Regeneration

Regeneration, often referred to as a healing factor, is the ability to passively heal oneself from wounds at an accelerated rate, with many characters proving capable of regenerating from wounds that would be lethal to normal humans. It has several different levels that range in potency from...
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Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.

Now compare that to the current definition of Low Godly.



Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other nonphysical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
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So what is your take on this ?
 
Vietthai96 said:
Another bad argument, if he can't regen, he will not regen, half or complete is irrelevant, since Hakai erase at soul level. If he can regen half of his body and soul then he is very well capable of regenerating from complete erasure, and Beerus statement supporting that
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Surprisely…. That is actually relevant. We can not ignore what kind of damage and how much the attack did on the body and so on.
 
Vietthai96 said:
And surprisingly, that feat was backed up by Beerus statement, and in turn Beerus statement was backed up by the feat. Don't isolating feat and statement guys
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Not exactly though. If the Hakai failed to completely erase someone despite having being able to erase the body and soul, it sounds more like resistance to existence erasure.
 
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