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What kind of upgrade Arceus must gain to have fair match with God tier 2-A Digimons?

If Arceus gets the Ap upgrade with a confirmed infinite multiverse and all, then his apparent omnipresence could allow him to at least not get stomped by Zeed.
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
If Arceus gets the Ap upgrade with a confirmed infinite multiverse and all, then his apparent omnipresence could allow him to at least not get stomped by Zeed.
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Message me about this because there may be something about this.
 
Arceus should, at a minimum, be able to stalemate, if it became 5-D, and was confirmed to have created itself.
 
TriforcePower1 said:
It's easy.
Nintendo buys Digimon
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This would honestly make me happy. Although, I dount Bandai would just give Digimon up lol. And I also still really like Bandai...
 
Also, Arceus becoming 5-D is gonna require a bit more considering we have Digimon with 5-D and 6-D Abilities. Also, him being omnipresent isn't gonna help when Zeed would basically just nuke everything. Lucemon would just absorb everything into the Dark Area. Megidramo passively destroys everything on a Multiversal+ scale. Huanglongmo "lolTakyoku's", etc. Arceus is gonna need more than just omnipresence to beat the Digimon crew. Hell, Alphamo sealed an omnipresent being and Omegamo and Imperialdramo Paladin Mode can literally erase everything. Not to mention Yggdrasil, Apocalymo or Voltbautamo. I could go on.
 
Are there some rules to how Arceus can be upgraded, based on him being this specific character? Otherwise it's kinda irrelevant whether we are talking about Arceus or not, you just make up some random BS abilities and feats and you're done. He's now stronger than Digimon, SMT, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Warhammer and Masadaverse.
 
Andytrenom said:
Are there some rules to how Arceus can be upgraded, based on him being this specific character? Otherwise it's kinda irrelevant whether we are talking about Arceus or not, you just make up some random BS abilities and feats and you're done. He's now stronger than Digimon, SMT, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Warhammer and Masadaverse.
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Perfect
 
Maybe not rules, more guidelines so that the ideas aren't just random stuff that have nothing to do with Arceus or Pokemon

...You know, why not just go with that "Should have something to do with Arceus or Pokemon". Seems sufficient.
 
I mean, anyone can just make up random powers and Arceus out of all Pokemon is the character who can legit be written to have a bunch of BS powers due to his status. However, the same kinda applies to the Digimon as well. Digimon are in a role in which every power can be given at a moments notice ("Lucemon gets upgraded by doing absolutely nothing" and "Dog via hax" are memes for a reason).
 
@Dxyz Well, I just don't think this thread would be very interesting if you can swap Arceus for any random tier 2 and still get the same results.
 
Rather than Arceus himself, you actually need to expand the verse's world building/construct for him to stand a chance against digimon or smt.
 
Maybe something to do with the Original Spirit, besides the obvious answer of make the Orignal Spirit 1-A. Probably some sort of passive Law Hax or something to do with its creation deity status, maybe something like what YHVH has.
 
Also, people are kinda expecting a lot from the Pokemon Company. Be realistic, do you really think they care enough to give Arceus all these extra strong abilities and add all this philosophical dimension stuff? I don't see anything higher than 2-A happening for Arceus to be quite honest. This isn't like Digimon whose entire series is formed around different philsophies and the nature of ideas.

Also, the SGDL are gonna get a resistance to Law Manipulation and Jesmon already lolnopes general Law Manipulation with OS Generics.
 
It's entirely possible for them to do something like The Covenant considering Pokémon's tone shift, but I don't see that happening outside of Sinnoh.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Also, people are kinda expecting a lot from the Pokemon Company. Be realistic, do you really think they care enough to give Arceus all these extra strong abilities and add all this philosophical dimension stuff? I don't see anything higher than 2-A happening for Arceus to be quite honest. This isn't like Digimon whose entire series is formed around different philsophies and the nature of ideas.
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Well based on what im looking into atm, there may be some 2-A or even higher shit that is implied from old lore thats never been brought up here before. At least not after I joined this site.

But to answer your question, thats kinda 50/50 w/ me. Gen 7 was kind of a random thing with the the whole Ultra Space ordeal. Hell, the ORAS games giving us a multiverse was kinda a huge shock too. So i dont think its a matter of "they dont care" but rather "its not as much a priority". In other words, pokemon could very well get digimon levels of power, but not for a while because the god tiers are not the main focus.
 
Yobo Blue said:
It's entirely possible for them to do something like The Covenant considering Pokémon's tone shift, but I don't see that happening outside of Sinnoh.
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Pokemon's Tone shift? How does that effect what abilities Arceus is likely to get? I could see Law Manipulation, but considering Pokemon, it would realisitcally be just that he can create and rewrite laws at will. Nothing Covenant level.
 
"Well based on what im looking into atm, there may be some 2-A or even higher shit that is implied from old lore thats never been brought up here before. At least not after I joined this site."

Can you show me this. Things like this can easily be taken out of context and assumed to be something it isn't without the right people evaluating it. You keep telling and not showing. I want scans please.

"But to answer your question, thats kinda 50/50 w/ me. Gen 7 was kind of a random thing with the the whole Ultra Space ordeal. Hell, the ORAS games giving us a multiverse was kinda a huge shock too. So i dont think its a matter of "they dont care" but rather "its not as much a priority". In other words, pokemon could very well get digimon levels of power, but not for a while because the god tiers are not the main focus"

There is a start difference between adding new worlds and expanding the size of the multiverse to expanding someone's abilities to the philosophical ideas and concepts. It's more 80/20 in my opinion.
 
Pokemon's Tone shift? How does that effect what abilities Arceus is likely to get? I could see Law Manipulation, but considering Pokemon, it would realisitcally be just that he can create and rewrite laws at will. Nothing Covenant level.

Also, Xerkser better described what I was trying to get at,
 
I think you're overthinking this Dragon. And he's definitely not obligated to give you any scans for a CRT he hasn't even made yet on a F&G thread.
 
Do u have a discord? I want to keep what I'm looking into private atm and not bring it to a thread until I'm 100% certain about it.
 
Yobo Blue said:
I think you're overthinking this Dragon. And he's definitely not obligated to give you any scans for a CRT he hasn't even made yet on a F&G thread.
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I never ONCE said he was obligated. But I want to see these scans that I've been hearing about since this thread started. Message Wall or anything. I want to see what this "possibly 2-A or higher" is. I'm like that animal you keep dangling food over my head only to not give me it.
 
Eh, you could have phrased it better. Sounded very indignant and demanding imo, but what do I know? Anyway, this is a F&G thread for a reason.
 
Yobo Blue said:
Eh, you could have phrased it better. Sounded very indignant and demanding imo, but what do I know? Anyway, this is a F&G thread for a reason.
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This is a Q&A thread though...
 
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