What in tarnation is this justification? (Nasuverse downgrade/adjustment.)

[BestMGQScalerEver]

So..

I noticed something quite wrong with this justification in her profile

Immeasurable with portals (Can access any point in time and space and walk along the boundary between reality and fiction)

What is this? Why? How is portal creation immeasurable speed and what was done with sheer speed? The lack of scans doesn't help. How is walking along the boundary between reality and fiction immeasurable speed? Is it some type of higher dimensional movement where you can go to any point of time through just speed?

Portal Creation (Can access any point in time and space with the Silver Key)

So it's just time travel via portals? It's like saying Trunks is immeasurable speed via the time machine. Why would something that is immeasurable speed grant time travel too? Isn't that redundant?

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Summoning, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation (Can travel to any point in space and time and cause distortions that can drive others insane)

So called immeasurable speed or portal creation to different points in time gives time and spatial manipulation now?

I'm proposing that immeasurable speed just be removed or people give more context as to why this is immeasurable speed and provide scans for it to add to the profile and perhaps a WAY BETTER justification for it to prevent confusion like this.

Also removal of spatial and time manipulation unless there's more evidence to keep that rather than just time travel via portals.

 

[Excaliburhuman]

I agree with the immeasurable spped downgrade. Also I'm pretty sure they got her age wrong as well but thats a seperate issue. Honesty suprised that it took this long for someone to downgrade her.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I agree with the immeasurable spped downgrade. Also I'm pretty sure they got her age wrong as well but thats a seperate issue. Honesty suprised that it took this long for someone to downgrade her.

On the bright side it's not stating an explicit age. Just physically.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I agree with the immeasurable spped downgrade. Also I'm pretty sure they got her age wrong as well but thats a seperate issue. Honesty suprised that it took this long for someone to downgrade her.

I edited my post to include removal of time manip and spatial manip can you also comment on that?

 

[Excaliburhuman]

I mean physically she should also be 12 not 9 seeing as how in her profile in fgo she is described as a blond hair blue eyed 12 year old girl.

 

[Excaliburhuman]

I edited my post to include removal of time manip and spatial manip can you also comment on that?

She might have some feats, but honestly its been too long since I've read salem and her interlude so idk. So neutral on that point.

 

[Qawsedf234]

If that's the only justification for speed, the downgrade looks fine. Since time travel isn't immeasurable speed.

 

[Tarang123]

This is a hilariously bad justification. I absolutely agree with the downgrade

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

i really agree with that

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yeah no Abi's profile is pretty bad removing those is fine, she can just make portals to travel to any point in time or space because she's a living silver key, not because she's moving at immeasurable speed or something

You can probably find something for the space and time manip from the distortions or something but I can't remember off the top of my head

 

[Duedate8898]

This seems pretty cut and dry, I support dropping the speed with the portals.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

This seems pretty cut and dry, I support dropping the speed with the portals.

Is this enough staff to apply or should there be 1 more (after 48 hours ofc)

 

[KLOL506]

Prolly get another thread mod or two and another admin to clarify.

@CrimsonStarFallen

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I suppose the downgrade is in order

Prolly get another thread mod or two and another admin to clarify.

hehehe

 

[KLOL506]

I suppose the downgrade is in order


hehehe

We need another now because I'm paranoid

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

We need another now because I'm paranoid

Inb4 the speed is correct but the justification is just extremely bad

Although I doubt it with what Paul said since he's knowledgeable.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Since that person hasn't come you think I can apply this in a few hours..?

 

[Tdjwo]

I don't think you would have to remove the tiering itself. Just the justifications since Abby is scaled via the Outer Gods who are qualitatively superior to the likes of Gilgamesh and Co who have immeasurable speed ratings. So she would still have immeasurable speed but with a different justification.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I don't think you would have to remove the tiering itself. Just the justifications since Abby is scaled via the Outer Gods who are qualitatively superior to the likes of Gilgamesh and Co who have immeasurable speed ratings. So she would still have immeasurable speed but with a different justification.

So Abby herself wouldn't have immeasurable speed but the person she opens the portal to? How would a justification like that be written.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

So Abby herself wouldn't have immeasurable speed but the person she opens the portal to? How would a justification like that be written.

Would be a lot easier if outer gods had a profile.

 

[Tarang123]

I don't think you would have to remove the tiering itself. Just the justifications since Abby is scaled via the Outer Gods who are qualitatively superior to the likes of Gilgamesh and Co who have immeasurable speed ratings. So she would still have immeasurable speed but with a different justification.

It's best to first create a separate CRT for that considering the Outer Gods aren't even a thing on the wiki for Nasuverse, to my knowledge

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

It's best to first create a separate CRT for that considering the Outer Gods aren't even a thing on the wiki for Nasuverse, to my knowledge

but the 48 hours

 

[HammerStrikes219]

It's best to first create a separate CRT for that considering the Outer Gods aren't even a thing on the wiki for Nasuverse, to my knowledge

They don’t have a profile of any kind as of currently.

 

[Tdjwo]

The outer gods are basically all combined under Abby's profile so she's basically the profile for the outer gods.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Not correct for Abby especially since she ain’t all the the Outer Gods, but simply a vessel for one of them.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

The outer gods are basically all combined under Abby's profile so she's basically the profile for the outer gods.

It'd be convenient scaling wise though for exactly situations like this.

 

[Tdjwo]

Not correct for Abby especially since she ain’t all the the Outer Gods, but simply a vessel for one of them.

She has the feats and justification of Sut-Typhon who's the strongest Outer God on her profile.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

It'd be convenient scaling wise though for exactly situations like this.

There is nothing much to go by for the Nasuverse’s interpretation of the Outer Gods as far as I am aware. We only know a few things related to the Outer Gods, but that is about it IIRC

 

[Tdjwo]

It'd be convenient scaling wise though for exactly situations like this.

I know but it's not really that important. Abby is basically just like Gille de Rais. Her main OP powers come from another being who is almost non significant as a stand alone character.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I don't think you would have to remove the tiering itself. Just the justifications since Abby is scaled via the Outer Gods who are qualitatively superior to the likes of Gilgamesh and Co who have immeasurable speed ratings. So she would still have immeasurable speed but with a different justification.

this. Also it’s funny how much faster a Nasu downgrade thread gets accepted

 

[Tdjwo]

There is nothing much to go by for the Nasuverse’s interpretation of the Outer Gods as far as I am aware. We only know a few things related to the Outer Gods, but that is about it IIRC

Which is why Abby has a profile instead of Yog-Sothoth. Yog is almost irrelevant as a character but Abby has lore around her character which is why she has profile and feats of Yog instead of Yog himself.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

She has the feats and justification of Sut-Typhon who's the strongest Outer God on her

That doesn’t mean it is all of them especially since in this case, they weren’t exactly named (with a few exceptions) in the story from Salem and other specific events for that matter.

Only implications and stuff at best as of now.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

, Immeasurable with Qliphoth Rhizome (Opens the Ultimate Gate from which Sut-Thypon is beyond, leading enemies into the Outer Universe from which the Outer Gods are from, allowing for Sut-Thyphon who scales above characters like Gilgamesh to completely obliterate Abby's opponents.)

Basically something like that?

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Also don’t think we have a official confirmation on which Outer God is the strongest in the Nasuverse so that doesn’t fly as much.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

, Immeasurable with Qliphoth Rhizome (Opens the Ultimate Gate from which Sut-Thypon is beyond, leading enemies into the Outer Universe from which the Outer Gods are from, allowing for Sut-Thyphon who scales above characters like Gilgamesh to completely obliterate Abby's opponents.)

Basically something like that?

That works

 

[Tdjwo]

That doesn’t mean it is all of them especially since in this case, they weren’t exactly named (with a few exceptions) in the story from Salem and other specific events for that matter.

Only implications and stuff at best as of now.

Yog can bring in other Gods into the universe. Doesn't really matter anyways. He's still the strongest one and Abigail has his feats.

 

[Tdjwo]

Also don’t think we have a official confirmation on which Outer God is the strongest in the Nasuverse so that doesn’t fly as much.

I think it's implied Yog is the strongest one in Nasuverse.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

, Immeasurable with Qliphoth Rhizome (Opens the Ultimate Gate from which Sut-Thypon is beyond, leading enemies into the Outer Universe from which the Outer Gods are from, allowing for Sut-Thyphon who scales above characters like Gilgamesh to completely obliterate Abby's opponents.)

Basically something like that?

Don’t think we ever got confirmation that we ever scaled above Fate Extra CCC Gilgamesh and quite frankly that doesn’t really work if I gonna been honest here.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

I think it's implied Yog is the strongest one in Nasuverse.

This is technically derailing and so far you don’t have any proof that is the case in the Nasuverse

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I suppose the downgrade is in order


hehehe

This seems pretty cut and dry, I support dropping the speed with the portals.

If that's the only justification for speed, the downgrade looks fine. Since time travel isn't immeasurable speed.

Gonna have to need your new thoughts on this.

, Immeasurable with Qliphoth Rhizome (Opens the Ultimate Gate from which Sut-Thypon is beyond, leading enemies into the Outer Universe from which the Outer Gods are from, allowing for Sut-Thyphon who scales above characters like Gilgamesh to completely obliterate Abby's opponents.)

Basically something like that?

I don't think you would have to remove the tiering itself. Just the justifications since Abby is scaled via the Outer Gods who are qualitatively superior to the likes of Gilgamesh and Co who have immeasurable speed ratings. So she would still have immeasurable speed but with a different justification.