What If... Raiden faces Jetstream Sam and Monsoon in Denver.

[Pyro9278]

What would have happened if Jetstream Sam hadn't retired and instead supported Monsoon in his confrontation with Raiden

Rules:

• Speed is not Equal
• Everyone is in character. Monsoon and Sam work together to defeat Raiden once and for all.
• The fight takes place right at the entrance of the World Marshal headquarters, starting 10 meters apart with a clear line of sight.

Sam and Monsoon: 3 (@TheRadiantSoul @Unknownnah @Detective_Blizzard)

Raiden:

Everyone is crushed by the senator:

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

No vote for now. But I think it's going to be really hard for Raiden to fight back when Monsoon is firing projectiles at him, while Sam is constantly charging and trying to cut him up with that Dura-Neg Sword. Raiden doesn't have the luxury of a 1 on 1 fight here.

Oddly, Raiden doesn't seem resist the effects of HF Blades himself. So if Sam is able to slash him with it a lot, it is going to hurt significantly.

 

[Pyro9278]

The two together could overwhelm Raiden quite a bit, but he could still put up a good fight with the Ripper mode activated, as his strength and speed increase. Monsoon proves to be inferior to a Raiden with Ripper mode activated, just like Sam, so Raiden has a chance to damage both of them before they can harm him. Unless they keep Raiden incredibly saturated with attacks.

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

Can't Monsoon just stay back and throw Electromagnetic projectiles at Raiden to weaken him, while Sam fights him up close?

 

[Pyro9278]

Can't Monsoon just stay back and throw Electromagnetic projectiles at Raiden to weaken him, while Sam fights him up close?

It could be feasible for Monsoon to attack from a distance, but I believe his electromagnetic attacks wouldn't take Raiden down in one shot. Meanwhile, Raiden should still have access to his arsenal, and he could quickly get rid of Sam.

 

[Unknownnah]

Is this just Chapter 3 Raiden or is he loaded out with all his equipment like the Murasama and Dystopia?

 

[Pyro9278]

Is this just Chapter 3 Raiden or is he loaded out with all his equipment like the Murasama and Dystopia?

All their equipment related to chapter 3

 

[Unknownnah]

So Raiden loses.

He already admitted that if he didn't have Ripper Mode, Monsoon would've beat him. It's also implied that Raiden went Ripper Mode against Sam, who he still had hard time beating. Both of them at the same time? That's way too much for him to deal with.

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

MoonSam FRA

 

[Pyro9278]

Counted

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

The Only Thing I Know for Real and The Stains of Time are better themes than Return to Ashes FRA

 

[Pyro9278]

Counted. I was expecting Raiden to stomp instead.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Counted. I was expecting Raiden to stomp instead.

If it was end of MGR Raiden, then probably. But chapter 3 Raiden just has 2 in-universe hard diff fights happening at once, both of which are capable of complimenting each other due to vastly different fighting styles

 

[Unknownnah]

Counted. I was expecting Raiden to stomp instead.

Raiden gets stomped here ngl.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Would it make any difference if Raiden had Infinite Wig B here? It grants him an infinite supply of fuel cells to maintain Ripper Mode or Blade Mode

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

That would make Monsoon much less of an actual threat, at the very least it makes the fight more even

 

[Unknownnah]

Raiden already has infinite Ripper Mode when fighting Monsoon so I don't think it'd make much of a difference.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Raiden already has infinite Ripper Mode when fighting Monsoon so I don't think it'd make much of a difference.

Right, now i remember he can already infinitely maintain R+B Mode in the Monsoon fight

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Monsoon and Sam fra

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Raiden already has infinite Ripper Mode when fighting Monsoon so I don't think it'd make much of a difference.

IIRC you can legit dominate that fight with Ripper Mode enough for Monsoon to actually feel fear, so there is an argument to be made that Infinite Ripper mode Raiden low/no diffs him, still doesn't help much since Sam is going to be right in his face and distracting him from Monsoon but it does make the fight noticeably closer than if Raiden didn't have it

 

[Ednaxel2]

I feel like Sam should be upgraded from at most 7-B to just solidly 7-B

Anyways Sam and Monsoon FRA

 

[Unknownnah]

Either way, this doesn't feel very fair. Raiden isn't going to have a single opportunity to kill either Sam or Monsoon while they can both just back Raiden into a corner, giving him no way to fight back.

 

[Unknownnah]

End of MGR Raiden could probably beat both Sam and Monsoon at the same time with one arm though lol.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Yeah, Raiden is in a fine line where he either gets solo'd by any form of boss rush or solos every boss rush depending on where he is in the game

 

[McFriesGuy075]

He should at least be able to keep Monsoon away from the fight for a bit, since Raiden can use emp grenades on him, i dont think this has to be a stomp.

 

[Unknownnah]

He should at least be able to keep Monsoon away from the fight for a bit, since Raiden can use emp grenades on him, i dont think this has to be a stomp.

Sam's still gonna be in his face even with Monsoon being stunned.

 

[AThe1412]